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Howdy folks?


FatSteve here.


I'm glad that I've finally got to this place.


You know why?


Because y'all see things for what they are and aren't afraid to speak your mind. That's something I value above all.


So, what can I bring to the table?


First, I have plenty of real world, up to date SEO experience - and I have no problem with sharing it freely (as opposed to creating a cheap useless WSO).


And second, I run a service (that I won't mention in my first post and I strongly believe in giving before getting) that basically helps folks automate the most boring things about running a blog network.


So? I think I and BlackHatWorld are going to be a good match.


We'll see. But I feel good about this. :)
 
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Welcome to BHW (from Skinny AutoBlogger) :P
 
Welcome aboard, Steve.
Do read and try to follow the rules :)
 
Welcome FatSteve :)

I have used your services in the past & they were great... also the skype support you gave was fabulous
 
FatSteve said:
And second, I run a service (that I won't mention in my first post and I strongly believe in giving before getting) that basically helps folks automate the most boring things about running a blog network.
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You just did mention it ;) Kinda suspect for a first post since your service is clearly something that's on your mind and more than likely the primary motivating factor for you joining bhw and making your introductory post.

Saying "I run a service, which I won't mention" is actually a copywriting technique. That kind of stuff might fly under the radar on places like WF, but using copywriting techniques on a forum full of copywriting experts generally doesn't work too well. ;)

Also saying you "strongly believe in giving before getting" wreaks of sales-copy. You first setup intrigue by saying you have a service, then integrity by saying you won't mention it. Next you say you believe in giving before receiving which builds trust. You then go on to say, despite previously saying you won't mention your service, that it helps people automate(another key sales word) the most boring(another key sales word).

To be honest even the start of your thread:

"
FatSteve here.


I'm glad that I've finally got to this place."


 That also stinks of sales-copy.


Immediately after that you empathize with the forum which as you know is also another copywriting technique since people like to do business with people similar to them.



Welcome to BlackhatWorld, FatSteve.
 
Welcome. Where are you from by the way Texas or something ?
 
You have great potential to become a psychologist.

PS: How fat are you, Steve? Just wondering...

BlueTurtle said:
You just did mention it ;) Kinda suspect for a first post since your service is clearly something that's on your mind and more than likely the primary motivating factor for you joining bhw and making your introductory post.

Saying "I run a service, which I won't mention" is actually a copywriting technique. That kind of stuff might fly under the radar on places like WF, but using copywriting techniques on a forum full of copywriting experts generally doesn't work too well. ;)

Also saying you "strongly believe in giving before getting" wreaks of sales-copy. You first setup intrigue by saying you have a service, then integrity by saying you won't mention it. Next you say you believe in giving before receiving which builds trust. You then go on to say, despite previously saying you won't mention your service, that it helps people automate(another key sales word) the most boring(another key sales word).

To be honest even the start of your thread:

"
FatSteve here.


I'm glad that I've finally got to this place."


 That also stinks of sales-copy.


Immediately after that you empathize with the forum which as you know is also another copywriting technique since people like to do business with people similar to them.



Welcome to BlackhatWorld, FatSteve.
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FuryKyle said:
You have great potential to become a psychologist.

PS: How fat are you, Steve? Just wondering...
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Ehehe, thank-you. Psychology is one of the most important parts of marketing. Really you can't market without it. Understanding psychology/human behavior helps you pick products for particular markets and then helps you decide how to market to those particular people.


PS: I'm sure he's not actually fat either. "FatSteve" sounds very unthreatening, don't you think? Like big cuddly ol' FatSteve, hahahaha.

He's probably in fairly good shape and likes to hit the gym 4x a week.
 
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BlueTurtle said:
Ehehe, thank-you. Psychology is one of the most important parts of marketing. Really you can't market without it. Understanding psychology/human behavior helps you pick products for particular markets and then helps you decide how to market to those particular people.


PS: I'm sure he's not actually fat either. "FatSteve" sounds very unthreatening, don't you think? Like big cuddly ol' FatSteve, hahahaha.

He's probably in fairly good shape and likes to hit the gym 4x a week.
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You gotta hook me up with some psychology classes then! Yes, come to think of it, perhaps he called himself fat for a more hidden, malicious reason :rolleyes:
 
BlueTurtle said:
Ehehe, thank-you. Psychology is one of the most important parts of marketing. Really you can't market without it. Understanding psychology/human behavior helps you pick products for particular markets and then helps you decide how to market to those particular people.

PS: I'm sure he's not actually fat either. "FatSteve" sounds very unthreatening, don't you think? Like big cuddly ol' FatSteve, hahahaha.

He's probably in fairly good shape and likes to hit the gym 4x a week.
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Way to hijack his thread, and I fully approve! It's insulting the way he talks to the forum. I'm glad you called him out. He'll learn it's best to just be genuine on here and not try to sound like a squeeze page. He'll learn that people are willing to help if you do what all your training as a BH IM'er has advised you against, and just be HONEST.
 
Alright guys. Cut him some slack. If you have been around the SENuke and other forums you know he is pretty damn helpful. Yeah, he shouldn't have mentioned his service the way he did, but he adds a lot of value on another forums.
 
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Alright guys. Cut him some slack. If you have been around the SENuke and other forums you know he is pretty damn helpful. Yeah, he shouldn't have mentioned his service the way he did, but he adds a lot of value on another forums.
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Heh, we're only really being playful. No one's been particularly harsh. Besides, if he's smart he'll just laugh it off and show people he's not too serious.
 
BlueTurtle said:
You just did mention it ;) Kinda suspect for a first post since your service is clearly something that's on your mind and more than likely the primary motivating factor for you joining bhw and making your introductory post.

Saying "I run a service, which I won't mention" is actually a copywriting technique. That kind of stuff might fly under the radar on places like WF, but using copywriting techniques on a forum full of copywriting experts generally doesn't work too well. ;)

Also saying you "strongly believe in giving before getting" wreaks of sales-copy. You first setup intrigue by saying you have a service, then integrity by saying you won't mention it. Next you say you believe in giving before receiving which builds trust. You then go on to say, despite previously saying you won't mention your service, that it helps people automate(another key sales word) the most boring(another key sales word).

To be honest even the start of your thread:

"
FatSteve here.


I'm glad that I've finally got to this place."


 That also stinks of sales-copy.


Immediately after that you empathize with the forum which as you know is also another copywriting technique since people like to do business with people similar to them.



Welcome to BlackhatWorld, FatSteve.
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Blueturtle is back, and he'a kicking asses!
 
Honestly, I never expected a psychologists hanging out on this forum, but it would make a fascinating case study :D and I am really glad you guys are as sharp as ever.

BlueTurtle said:
Heh, we're only really being playful. No one's been particularly harsh. Besides, if he's smart he'll just laugh it off and show people he's not too serious.
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Indeed :D I got that.
But that was the point of this post - to make the whole deal less boring than "hey people, I'm *enter name here* from *enter place here* " and kind of put a slight emphasis on my business - I do know my "kitchen"!

I guess by reactions that I succeeded :-) and as the old saying goes - the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

BlueTurtle said:
You just did mention it Kinda suspect for a first post since your service is clearly something that's on your mind and more than likely the primary motivating factor for you joining bhw and making your introductory post.

Saying "I run a service, which I won't mention" is actually a copywriting technique. That kind of stuff might fly under the radar on places like WF, but using copywriting techniques on a forum full of copywriting experts generally doesn't work too well.
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I'm not a copywriter but at least now I know where that came from. I will admit that I've spent about half an hour trying to come up with something interesting for my introduction post - not an easy task for a non native En.

As of my motivation I will just say this - you cannot talk about SEO with your wife... :D

And I'm pleased you guys noticed me!

Andy a.k.a FatSteve

P.S.

FuryKyle - comfortably overweight! *grin*

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