[Exposed] Anti-detect browsers - a snake in the grass

So here's what I found after testing the same setup with the same inputs using 2 different configurations. About 100 repetitions each test.

Test 1:
  • 30 accounts, same location IPs, anti-detect browser
  • Result: Total wipeout. All banned. Ouch.
Test 2:
  • Chrome vs. anti-detect browser, worldwide proxies
  • Result: Smooth sailing. No bans on either.

So what does this tell us? A few things:
  1. That anti-detect browser? Yeah, it's not the magic bullet they're selling it as. Didn't make any difference after all.
  2. Looks like the IP is the real MVP here. When you switched to worldwide proxies, suddenly it's all good - doesn't matter if you're on Chrome or the fancy "anti-detect" browser.
  3. Using a bunch of IPs from the same location? Red flag city. Websites aren't dumb - they can spot that pattern a mile away.
  4. The anti-detect browser doesn;'t give you any edge over regular Chrome when it came to avoiding bans. So much for those special features, but also it's a chromium based browser which probably can be differentiated from Chrome, although it's so minor it many times slips under the carpet.
I know nothing is more full of s*it than marketing and sales departments. Those people will do anything to get a little lollipop:
- sell you a $200 e-book where it should be used as an opt-in to sign up to an e-mail list;
- a $400 software to post... random sites that create junk links;
- an exaggerated solutions to every single problem (do C++ to post a link on the internet);
- content farms that write for search engines, not for humans;
- other bs...

If you're doing some stuff like that, you're controlling a very flimsy world with this. It's only harming your soul and you're only manipulating yourself. Poor decisions, right.

I quit 90% of marketing and sales because... who the hell needs lollipops their whole life. I don't need any of that. Why am I here. I don't know. Just sharing my lessons. For some reason I feel better exposing something that is more true than repeating a lie over and over again. Unlearn the bad stuff and start from a blank slate, then see what works for real.

After all of those lessons, my whole setup is able to be efficient at 10 lines of code. I went down from 10k lines of code. Ask how. Well, this is what someone mastering something can do. You can have 1000x more with 1000x less. You can kill with a single kick. Now mastering isn't about adding another skill + making more assumptions on top of old assumptions (which many times is errors on top of errors - very wrong world). If you have zero assumptions, you do a very slim, compact stuff that works. If you manage to scale up that slim power, you get extreme power.

So first you scale down, then scale up. You cannot go just to scaling up like they tell you on the internet and in greedy, flimsy lollipop worlds.


Hey bro could you please send me a pm ?
 
Can you explain how to randomize the network nodes
Easy answers result in problems. Study networking. Maybe he's a hacker or smth. People here have unusual connections and knowledge that you'd never figure out without digging deep yourself.

The trick to having a ferrari is not to have parts all assembled by someone else. It's to build your own. ;)
And the next step is having own factory of ferrari cars.
Hey bro could you please send me a pm ?
No. I don't do PMs. :p
 
Easy answers result in problems. Study networking. Maybe he's a hacker or smth. People here have unusual connections and knowledge that you'd never figure out without digging deep yourself.

The trick to having a ferrari is not to have parts all assembled by someone else. It's to build your own. ;)
And the next step is having own factory of ferrari cars.

No. I don't do PMs. :p
Useless words from
Easy answers result in problems. Study networking. Maybe he's a hacker or smth. People here have unusual connections and knowledge that you'd never figure out without digging deep yourself.

The trick to having a ferrari is not to have parts all assembled by someone else. It's to build your own. ;)
And the next step is having own factory of ferrari cars.

No. I don't do PMs. :p
Useless from who calims knowledge
 
Easy answers result in problems. Study networking. Maybe he's a hacker or smth. People here have unusual connections and knowledge that you'd never figure out without digging deep yourself.

The trick to having a ferrari is not to have parts all assembled by someone else. It's to build your own. ;)
And the next step is having own factory of ferrari cars.

No. I don't do PMs. :p
Just wanted to point out that i really like your views in general have read a lot of your comments. You proposed to not use anti-detect browsers and use Chrome-Firefox. So my question is, if i purchase a rotating mobile proxy is it better to match it with a normal browser or an anti-detect one for better results in Reddit. I wanna make a try despite what you said
 
Just wanted to point out that i really like your views in general have read a lot of your comments. You proposed to not use anti-detect browsers and use Chrome-Firefox. So my question is, if i purchase a rotating mobile proxy is it better to match it with a normal browser or an anti-detect one for better results in Reddit. I wanna make a try despite what you said
My views on Reddit are straightforward. I don't believe it makes sense to learn marketing on Reddit. You'll be learning how to deal with toxic people which may be too challenging cause you'll have to have very strong psychology background + solve technical problems at the same time. 99% of people fail. Successful people on Reddit maybe exist, but I never met one.

It'd be easier to build a house in my opinion than to make $1000 off Reddit, but that's just my opinion.

I am generally not interested in lying and trapping people via marketing / sales, but production, value and then offering that to people who share common values with me, or would like to introduce something new into their lives, not just mcdonald's type of stuff.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/dolphin-anty-residential-proxy-45-fraud-rate.1623070/#post-17990491
 
My views on Reddit are straightforward. I don't believe it makes sense to learn marketing on Reddit. You'll be learning how to deal with toxic people which may be too challenging cause you'll have to have very strong psychology background + solve technical problems at the same time. 99% of people fail. Successful people on Reddit maybe exist, but I never met one.

It'd be easier to build a house in my opinion than to make $1000 off Reddit, but that's just my opinion.

I am generally not interested in lying and trapping people via marketing / sales, but production, value and then offering that to people who share common values with me, or would like to introduce something new into their lives, not just mcdonald's type of stuff.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/dolphin-anty-residential-proxy-45-fraud-rate.1623070/#post-17990491
I understand, but despite all the rights you have on the matter there is an issue. Reddit still is a good funnel method for someone who has no big budget. I mean that of course you will get banned but the suicide method also exists. So then you can make your first few bucks then re invest into more expensive methods, like the rotating mobile proxy you said, and maybe achieve not get banned shortly after posting. What do you think?

You say again and again that you would not recommend reddit. So then what do you recommend? Thank u in advance.
 
I understand, but despite all the rights you have on the matter there is an issue. Reddit still is a good funnel method for someone who has no big budget. I mean that of course you will get banned but the suicide method also exists. So then you can make your first few bucks then re invest into more expensive methods, like the rotating mobile proxy you said, and maybe achieve not get banned shortly after posting. What do you think?

You say again and again that you would not recommend reddit. So then what do you recommend? Thank u in advance.
Scroll up. https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/dolphin-anty-residential-proxy-45-fraud-rate.1623070/#post-17990429

YouTube vids + fast content creation on many channels using their keywords.

Upload a video to youtube with a topic of interest, go to Studio -> analytics -> inspiration.

Funneling is a concept that doesn't make sense below I don't know... for me it doesn't make sense below maybe 5 figures monthly. It's been invented by 7 - 8 figure money makers. Not something I would practice at the beginning. First you need to learn how to survive, then you can create more complicated schemes.

It's very complicated in my eyes. I just stick to simplicity and simple 2 - 3 steps processes.

30 sec vids on YouTube (not shorts, but long form) with right keywords, will get you up to 2 - 3m views monthly to your site. Of course higher is possible too.
 
Not sure whats the point of this thread while you probably used chromium, also known as a Google RAT
 
Not sure whats the point of this thread while you probably used chromium, also known as a Google RAT
We have Chrome and Chromium.
Chromium is what anti-detect browsers are.
Chrome is what majority of people use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Features

I don't believe in Chromium based browsers as the reason someone is successful.
Simply it's a message to tell myself and other people that money isn't where we might think it is.

The idea behind posting such threads is to make people aware that there are traps out there and they might limit our mindset, potential.
 
We have Chrome and Chromium.
Chromium is what anti-detect browsers are.
Chrome is what majority of people use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Features

I don't believe in Chromium based browsers as the reason someone is successful.
Simply it's a message to tell myself and other people that money isn't where we might think it is.
As I said, Chromium is owned by Google, if you try to do anything worth to catch you for they will do, no matter how big the open source bs narrative is.

By saying this, I mean i would ONLY trust an anti-detect browser made by another browser not linked to big corporations
 
https://intercom.help/dolphinteam/en/articles/7127390-basic-automation-dolphin-anty

If you want to hide the fact you use playwright, puppeteer, fine.
An anti-detect browser is a prototyping tool. It's core role is to hide the fact you're using devtools protocol based automation
I wouldn't use it for the final stuff, albeit something like a "final version" doesn't exist in informatics as those systems are based on constant improvements, like cybernetics.

Sample code to do uploads on YouTube. Warning: it's not ready to be used, especially last lines. Just an example.

main.py content file:

Python:
from pathlib import Path
from playwright.sync_api import sync_playwright, expect, Page
from requests import request as req
from els.yt import *
from random import randrange as rr

from utils import get_dir


def ul(file: Path, tl: str, desc: str, page: Page):
    # reduce repetitiveness
    by_css = page.locator
    wait = page.wait_for_timeout
    eval = page.evaluate
    testp = expect(page)
    test = expect

    def type(css, text):
        return page.locator(css).type(text)

    def click(css):
        return page.locator(css).click()

    def file_choose(selector: str, file: str):
        with page.expect_file_chooser() as fc_info:
            page.locator(selector).click()
            file_chooser = fc_info.value
            file_chooser.set_files(file)

    """ 1st card """
    # go to upload page
    click(up_ico_btn)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    click(up_lnk_btn)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # file choosing
    file_choose(up_sel_btn, str(file))
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # enter title
    click(up_title_txtarea)
    type(up_title_txtarea, tl)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # enter desc
    click(up_desc_txtarea)
    type(up_desc_txtarea, desc)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # select no kids content
    click(up_no_kids_btn)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # go to 2nd card
    click(up_next_btn_1st)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    """ 2nd card """
    # go to 3rd card
    click(up_next_btn_2nd)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    """ 3rd card """
    # go to 4th card
    click(up_next_btn_3rd)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    """ 4th card """
    # set public
    click(up_pub_btn)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # go to share view
    click(up_next_btn_4th)
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))
    # get vid url
    page.wait_for_selector(up_url_btn)
    vid_url = eval(
        "(up_url_btn) => document.querySelector(up_url_btn).innerText", up_url_btn
    )
    wait(rr(2000, 3000))

    print(vid_url)

    return True


profiles = [
    profile["id"]
    for profile in req(
        "GET",
        "https://dolphin-anty-api.com/browser_profiles?limit&query&page=1",
        headers={
            "Authorization": "Bearer <Anty-Dolphin-API-Key>"
        },
        data={},
    ).json()["data"]
]

instances = [
    req(
        "GET",
        f"http://localhost:3001/v1.0/browser_profiles/{profile}/start?automation=1",
    ).json()
    for profile in profiles
]


with sync_playwright() as playwright:
    brov = playwright.chromium.connect_over_cdp(
        "ws://127.0.0.1:"
        + str(instances[1]["automation"]["port"])
        + str(instances[1]["automation"]["wsEndpoint"])
    )
    page = brov.contexts[0].pages[0]
    page.goto("https://www.youtube.com/")
    ul(
        get_dir("stg/opt/roblox.mp4"),
        "vid title",
        "thanks for watching",
        page,
    )

folder els -> yt.py file content:

Python:
""" Upload Page Elements """

# Go to upload page
up_ico_btn = (
    "#buttons > ytd-topbar-menu-button-renderer.style-scope.ytd-masthead.style-default"
)
up_lnk_btn = "[href='/upload']"
# Select button
up_sel_btn = "#select-files-button"
# Enter vid details
up_title_txtarea = "#title-wrapper #textbox"
up_desc_txtarea = "#description-wrapper #textbox"
up_no_kids_btn = "[name='VIDEO_MADE_FOR_KIDS_NOT_MFK']"
up_next_btn_1st = "#next-button"
# 2nd card
up_next_btn_2nd = "#next-button"
# 3rd card
up_next_btn_3rd = "#next-button"
# Set Public / Unlisted / Private
up_pub_btn = "[name='PUBLIC']"
up_unlist_btn = "[name='UNLISTED']"
up_prv_btn = "[name='PRIVATE']"
up_next_btn_4th = "#done-button"
# Get URL
up_url_btn = "#share-url"

""" Edit video """
ed_btn = "#above-the-fold #subscribe-button .ytd-watch-metadata a"
ed_title_txtarea = "#title-wrapper #textbox"
ed_desc_txtarea = "#description-wrapper #textbox"

ed_vis_list_btn = "ytcp-video-metadata-editor-sidepanel #icon-and-type"
ed_pub_btn = "[name='PUBLIC']"
ed_unlist_btn = "[name='UNLISTED']"
ed_prv_btn = "[name='PRIVATE']"
ed_sv_vis_btn = "#save-button"
ed_sv_btn = ".buttons #save"

""" Comment video """
cmt_txtarea = "#placeholder-area"

utils.py code:

Python:
from pathlib import Path

#gets only Path
def get_dir(sub: str):
    return Path.joinpath(Path.cwd(), sub)

#gets files
def get_subdir(sub: str):
    return [f for f in Path.joinpath(Path.cwd(), sub).iterdir()]

I'll upload full version later.
 
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Another thing I found is that...
You don't need to do any of that.

You can go straight to Craigslist or other sites with easy to get traffic, post a nice announcement and collect mails.
Or you can do PPC for $0 at Google Ads. Just enter some credit card details and you can spend $12 for $0.

Damn it.
 
Or you can do PPC for $0 at Google Ads. Just enter some credit card details and you can spend $12 for $0.
You need some planning to be efficient in it. I've done about 10 tests and about 40 are left to make first money.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ppc-constant-fud-of-ppc-services-salesmen.1629911/

The thread is controversial. Similarly to non-SaaS approaches and sharing, and greater purpose.

I am on a build for YouTube, completely free.

A youtube gui uploader.

This is a “greater purpose” - this is where the “stronger motivation” comes from, which is not just emotions.
So such a gui would be x modifiable modules, where you can arrange the flow in each module, then connect flows into a big flow:
  • AccMtcs (maintenance)
  • VidGens (generation)
  • VidUls (uploads)
  • VidEds (edits)
  • VidComs (comments)
  • AccDls (delays)
Other
  • VidTests (experiments)
  • VidDat (data)
  • Flows (connecting all solutions to flow)
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The main challenge is... beating the f out of scammy approaches and doing for real.
Reduction of complexity and maintaining simplicity in it is another challenge.

The greater purpose is that if you use it alone, you'll feel isolated.
If you post it publicly, it will push you and other people.

There are 50 secret benefits in sharing everything for free.
 
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So here's what I found after testing the same setup with the same inputs using 2 different configurations. About 100 repetitions each test.

Test 1:
  • 30 accounts, same location IPs, anti-detect browser
  • Result: Total wipeout. All banned. Ouch.
Test 2:
  • Chrome vs. anti-detect browser, worldwide proxies
  • Result: Smooth sailing. No bans on either.

So what does this tell us? A few things:
  1. That anti-detect browser? Yeah, it's not the magic bullet they're selling it as. Didn't make any difference after all.
  2. Looks like the IP is the real MVP here. When you switched to worldwide proxies, suddenly it's all good - doesn't matter if you're on Chrome or the fancy "anti-detect" browser.
  3. Using a bunch of IPs from the same location? Red flag city. Websites aren't dumb - they can spot that pattern a mile away.
  4. The anti-detect browser doesn;'t give you any edge over regular Chrome when it came to avoiding bans. So much for those special features, but also it's a chromium based browser which probably can be differentiated from Chrome, although it's so minor it many times slips under the carpet.
I know nothing is more full of s*it than marketing and sales departments. Those people will do anything to get a little lollipop:
- sell you a $200 e-book where it should be used as an opt-in to sign up to an e-mail list;
- a $400 software to post... random sites that create junk links;
- an exaggerated solutions to every single problem (do C++ to post a link on the internet);
- content farms that write for search engines, not for humans;
- other bs...

If you're doing some stuff like that, you're controlling a very flimsy world with this. It's only harming your soul and you're only manipulating yourself. Poor decisions, right.

I quit 90% of marketing and sales because... who the hell needs lollipops their whole life. I don't need any of that. Why am I here. I don't know. Just sharing my lessons. For some reason I feel better exposing something that is more true than repeating a lie over and over again. Unlearn the bad stuff and start from a blank slate, then see what works for real.

After all of those lessons, my whole setup is able to be efficient at 10 lines of code. I went down from 10k lines of code. Ask how. Well, this is what someone mastering something can do. You can have 1000x more with 1000x less. You can kill with a single kick. Now mastering isn't about adding another skill + making more assumptions on top of old assumptions (which many times is errors on top of errors - very wrong world). If you have zero assumptions, you do a very slim, compact stuff that works. If you manage to scale up that slim power, you get extreme power.

So first you scale down, then scale up. You cannot go just to scaling up like they tell you on the internet and in greedy, flimsy lollipop worlds.


Your post makes a lot sense if I am honest, but could you elaborate me, I did set up proxy on my MacOS, but any checker detected my real location. I understand my WEBRTC is leaking. What would be best option to prevent this? Thank you.
 
Same applies to SMM panels bullsh*t sellers. Most views they provide are garbage quality that will be deleted by Youtube.
indeed, try any SMM panel on spotify and you can test if they pass the test, if no fraudulent activity been found = BOOM jackpot, but most of them are garbage selling shared IP views or even worse, 3rd world countries datacenter IP views or VPN views...
 
The main challenge is... beating the f out of scammy approaches and doing for real.
Reduction of complexity and maintaining simplicity in it is another challenge.
Doing both right now.

I have a thread "on niche tests" and "cpa plus usa dead".

Both revealed plenty of interesting facts and approaches.

Infommercials are great.

I'll grow channela vertically from now on.

And get extra cash from more spammy channels to fuel and pump the big channel.

Zero anti detects. ;)
Zero reverse engineering beyond general mental disassembly.
 
Your post makes a lot sense if I am honest, but could you elaborate me, I did set up proxy on my MacOS, but any checker detected my real location. I understand my WEBRTC is leaking. What would be best option to prevent this? Thank you.
You have a bad proxy. That's all. Or you clicked something in anti-detect browser regarding webrtc.

Don't create own proxies if you don't know how. Just buy them.

---

I can't finish the rest of code as I got in fights with sociopathic characters again...
 
You have a bad proxy. That's all. Or you clicked something in anti-detect browser regarding webrtc.

Don't create own proxies if you don't know how. Just buy them.

---

I can't finish the rest of code as I got in fights with sociopathic characters again...
bro ditch the sociopaths ive been through this shit all they do in drain your energy.
i can give advice on mental health but i wish to see you finish this shit
 
bro ditch the sociopaths ive been through this shit all they do in drain your energy.
i can give advice on mental health but i wish to see you finish this shit
I'm gonna move out, change country and go to a normal job {not some scammy startup).

The situation shall be stable in a few months. I have voluntarily gone to hospital, so I can rest from those pathological patterns.

I'll code rest of the code I spoke about.
There's more than people think.

For now it's running on Chrome default. And I think I'll leave it that way.

Few big channels, email lists and that's a good way to generate 1000s per day

So 2025, we might experience something cool.
 
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