[Exposed] Anti-detect browsers - a snake in the grass

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So here's what I found after testing the same setup with the same inputs using 2 different configurations. About 100 repetitions each test.

Test 1:
  • 30 accounts, same location IPs, anti-detect browser
  • Result: Total wipeout. All banned. Ouch.
Test 2:
  • Chrome vs. anti-detect browser, worldwide proxies
  • Result: Smooth sailing. No bans on either.

So what does this tell us? A few things:
  1. That anti-detect browser? Yeah, it's not the magic bullet they're selling it as. Didn't make any difference after all.
  2. Looks like the IP is the real MVP here. When you switched to worldwide proxies, suddenly it's all good - doesn't matter if you're on Chrome or the fancy "anti-detect" browser.
  3. Using a bunch of IPs from the same location? Red flag city. Websites aren't dumb - they can spot that pattern a mile away.
  4. The anti-detect browser doesn;'t give you any edge over regular Chrome when it came to avoiding bans. So much for those special features, but also it's a chromium based browser which probably can be differentiated from Chrome, although it's so minor it many times slips under the carpet.
I know nothing is more full of s*it than marketing and sales departments. Those people will do anything to get a little lollipop:
- sell you a $200 e-book where it should be used as an opt-in to sign up to an e-mail list;
- a $400 software to post... random sites that create junk links;
- an exaggerated solutions to every single problem (do C++ to post a link on the internet);
- content farms that write for search engines, not for humans;
- other bs...

If you're doing some stuff like that, you're controlling a very flimsy world with this. It's only harming your soul and you're only manipulating yourself. Poor decisions, right.

I quit 90% of marketing and sales because... who the hell needs lollipops their whole life. I don't need any of that. Why am I here. I don't know. Just sharing my lessons. For some reason I feel better exposing something that is more true than repeating a lie over and over again. Unlearn the bad stuff and start from a blank slate, then see what works for real.

After all of those lessons, my whole setup is able to be efficient at 10 lines of code. I went down from 10k lines of code. Ask how. Well, this is what someone mastering something can do. You can have 1000x more with 1000x less. You can kill with a single kick. Now mastering isn't about adding another skill + making more assumptions on top of old assumptions (which many times is errors on top of errors - very wrong world). If you have zero assumptions, you do a very slim, compact stuff that works. If you manage to scale up that slim power, you get extreme power.

So first you scale down, then scale up. You cannot go just to scaling up like they tell you on the internet and in greedy, flimsy lollipop worlds.
 
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So here's what I found after testing the same setup with the same inputs using 2 different configurations. About 100 repetitions each test.

Test 1:
  • 30 accounts, same location IPs, anti-detect browser
  • Result: Total wipeout. All banned. Ouch.
Test 2:
  • Chrome vs. anti-detect browser, worldwide proxies
  • Result: Smooth sailing. No bans on either.

So what does this tell us? A few things:
  1. That anti-detect browser? Yeah, it's not the magic bullet they're selling it as. Didn't make any difference after all.
  2. Looks like the IP is the real MVP here. When you switched to worldwide proxies, suddenly it's all good - doesn't matter if you're on Chrome or the fancy "anti-detect" browser.
  3. Using a bunch of IPs from the same location? Red flag city. Websites aren't dumb - they can spot that pattern a mile away.
  4. The anti-detect browser doesn;'t give you any edge over regular Chrome when it came to avoiding bans. So much for those special features, but also it's a chromium based browser which probably can be differentiated from Chrome, although it's so minor it many times slips under the carpet.
I know nothing is more full of s*it than marketing and sales departments. Those people will do anything to get a little lollipop:
- sell you a $200 e-book where it should be used as an opt-in to sign up to an e-mail list;
- a $400 software to post... random sites that create junk links;
- an exaggerated solutions to every single problem (do C++ to post a link on the internet);
- content farms that write for search engines, not for humans;
- other bs...

If you're doing some stuff like that, you're controlling a very flimsy world with this. It's only harming your soul and you're only manipulating yourself. Poor decisions, right.

I quit 90% of marketing and sales because... who the hell needs lollipops their whole life. I don't need any of that. Why am I here. I don't know. Just sharing my lessons. For some reason I feel better exposing something that is more true than repeating a lie over and over again. Unlearn the bad stuff and start from a blank slate, then see what works for real.

After all of those lessons, my whole setup is able to be efficient at 10 lines of code. I went down from 10k lines of code. Ask how. Well, this is what someone mastering something can do. You can have 1000x more with 1000x less. You can kill with a single kick. Now mastering isn't about adding another skill + making more assumptions on top of old assumptions (which many times is errors on top of errors - very wrong world). If you have zero assumptions, you do a very slim, compact stuff that works. If you manage to scale up that slim power, you get extreme power.

So first you scale down, then scale up. You cannot go just to scaling up like they tell you on the internet and in greedy, flimsy lollipop worlds.
Same applies to SMM panels bullsh*t sellers. Most views they provide are garbage quality that will be deleted by Youtube.
 
Same applies to SMM panels bullsh*t sellers. Most views they provide are garbage quality that will be deleted by Youtube.
Same applies to proxies. You buy from a provider, everything works, suddenly 1000 abusers join who mindlessly spam without understanding details (mastery) and the whole proxy farm is giving "sorry, we cannot let you sign in / sign up" anymore.

So these low planes of existence where we basically compete with each other like animals by doing the lowest quality stuff are a business trap.

I posted I think 10 times a proxy provider and how to use that. They killed it within 3 months. lol

Now they probably think "this idiot is giving free info again". What free info. Lollipops of "$1m value" are worthless. It won't take you to heaven. It's just gonna kill your dopamine system at best and make you a rat. You might become next Donald Trump who can't resist eating a burger.

I tried many lifestyles over the years and making money, chasing bucks was one of the worst ideas I had. It was just so overwhelming and pointless. Zero insight. Emptiness. Then depression. It's what selling your soul to Lucifer means I guess - killing your brain with useless papers you overrate.

All of that can be labeled as very immature business.
 
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It is really a remarkable work. I wonder what are the undetected chrome extensions and browsers?
 
Same applies to proxies. You buy from a provider, everything works, suddenly 1000 abusers join who mindlessly spam without understanding details (mastery) and the whole proxy farm is giving "sorry, we cannot let you sign in / sign up" anymore.

So these low planes of existence where we basically compete with each other like animals by doing the lowest quality stuff are a business trap.

I posted I think 10 times a proxy provider and how to use that. They killed it within 3 months. lol

Now they probably think "this idiot is giving free info again". What free info. Lollipops of "$1m value" are worthless. It won't take you to heaven. It's just gonna kill your dopamine system at best and make you a rat. You might become next Donald Trump who can't resist eating a burger.

I tried many lifestyles over the years and making money, chasing bucks was one of the worst ideas I had. It was just so overwhelming and pointless. Zero insight. Emptiness. Then depression. It's what selling your soul to Lucifer means I guess - killing your brain with useless papers you overrate.

All of that can be labeled as very immature business.
Recommend wonderful residential proxies vendor
 
Recommend wonderful residential proxies vendor
I only use public IP addresses that aren't resold 100 times to private customers and can be obtained by anyone like AWS addresses, Azure addresses, T-mobile addresses, VPN addresses. Simple as that.

The above aren't identified as proxies.

I can't tell what is someone's case, but that's what works for me.

If an IP address is used by a large number of people, it cannot be just banned cause it'd ban a lot of people.
Reddit might practice banning IP addresses, but that's a very hardcore community and anyone working there will pay for it with their mental health.

Google, Facebook don't give a f*k. You can do anything there as long as you're not scaling too hard and have a lot of sites / links / domains while doing that.

Most bankers spend their time on Google and Meta properties. Shit like TikTok is something amateurs will use because they don't understand how many problems they need to solve that aren't transferable to other things. That's ultimately waste of time to work on some hard sites where everyone loses their sh1t.

I heard Pinterest might be an interesting option too. I don't know but they didn't make me feel bad overall. Didn't work there though.
 
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I only use public IP addresses that aren't resold 100 times to private customers and can be obtained by anyone like AWS addresses, Azure addresses, T-mobile addresses, VPN addresses. Simple as that.

The above aren't identified as proxies.

I can't tell what is someone's case, but that's what works for me.

If an IP address is used by a large number of people, it cannot be just banned cause it'd ban a lot of people.
Reddit might practice banning IP addresses, but that's a very hardcore community and anyone working there will pay for it with their mental health.

Google, Facebook don't give a f*k. You can do anything there as long as you're not scaling too hard and have a lot of sites / links / domains while doing that.

Most bankers spend their time on Google and Meta properties. Shit like TikTok is something amateurs will use because they don't understand how many problems they need to solve that aren't transferable to other things. That's ultimately waste of time to work on some hard sites where everyone loses their sh1t.

I heard Pinterest might be an interesting option too. I don't know but they didn't make me feel bad overall. Didn't work there though.
I creating 10 Payoneer accounts daily , so using RDP or VPS will be not practical solution for me .. getting 10 Amazon VPS daily is much cost .

We need better solution for bulk creating Payoneer accounts
 
I creating 10 Payoneer accounts daily , so using RDP or VPS will be not practical solution for me .. getting 10 Amazon VPS daily is much cost .

We need better solution for bulk creating Payoneer accounts
I'm not doing any stealth accounts, but I think all you need is a non-unique fingerprint like MacOS M2 or iPhone 7.
And IPs from many locations.

I listed many options and I didn't say you need VPS. I haven't used that word once. I only mentioned Amazon IPs which has nothing to do with their VPS. Many VPN providers use Amazon / DigitalOcean etc IPs. VPN is a program like Hola or NordVPN.

I have a laptop that is used by 10 million other people. So all I need to do is change my location. Desktops can be more tricky, but configurations aren't very unique many times too.

For stealth accounts I probably would rely on something like mobile IPs and phones.
 
You are absolutely right. I have tested various anti detect browsers for reddit during these last few years and have always had a larger amount of bans with them opposed to just using simple plain chrome/firefox browser.
Anti detect browsers are rarely worth it at best and they can be absolutely abysmal at worst.
 
Very interesting, it is clear that up to 10 accounts it will work, but more. The browser transmits all the information about your computer - the anti-detection browser should mask it
 
I creating 10 Payoneer accounts daily , so using RDP or VPS will be not practical solution for me .. getting 10 Amazon VPS daily is much cost .

We need better solution for bulk creating Payoneer accounts
What do you use the payonners for...is it Appen?....Maybe we can linkup and share ideas
 
About using VPNs for Google account creation. Could these accounts also be used to leave Google reviews that stick? (Still using the VPN?).
 
You don't need an antidetect browser for every website,
only for the ones that use/detect the device footprints, that's up for your a/b testing and research made to know if it does or not,

You can't put the blame on antidetect browsers if you're leaving a huge footprint like using the same IP,
That's basically like stepping into a mine blindly and blaming your body armor for the death,

And yes, many antidetect browsers are not as good as they claim or/and for many cases,
But, putting blame on the whole service-model does not make a valid point, not something to even argue about
 
But, putting blame on the whole service-model does not make a valid point, not something to even argue about
Sorry, but it's a fresh thing, unregulated and immature. These are facts about that industry that was born like yesterday. A lot of confusion spread around.

Software as a service has no future because it's evil and people will realize it sooner or later.

Once people become conscious how it limits their freedom, it'll die. Albeit people want to be dependent many times.

It's been pushed left and right since the internet was born, but the internet is very immature. It's literally developed and setup by college kids.

I can understand "renting" real stuff like links, properties, accounts, houses. But not something like "db rows rentals that normally would be free".

Renting profiles is like renting games. For what reason would you do that? Google doesn't rent your profiles on Chrome. You can just create them forever.

Heck, a GMail account is free too. And a profile from those 3rd party, ignorance-based companies costs like $1 / piece. This doesn't make sense.

I put this code in "bs.bat" and then I grab process ID, then do whatever I want with that browser instance.
I can inject dll if I want. I can control it using addons.

I don't need playwright and puppeteer which hide some pesky stuff inside as well.

Bash:
"C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --user-data-dir="c:\prfl\1"

See some problems Microsoft had with Windows due to some 3rd party software lately. This is the cost of being dependent.
 
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