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EBN or pbn.hosting - What's Better?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by 6TiME6, Sep 15, 2016.

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What do you think is the better/safer option?

  1. EBN (easyblognetworks.com)

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    50.0%
  2. PBN Hosting (pbn.hosting)

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Other (comment in thread)

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    22.7%
  1. 6TiME6

    6TiME6 Newbie

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    I'm not sure which PBN hosting service to select. pbn.hosting looks promising, but I can't find much info on them and it kinda worries me that they seem to use Amazon Cloudfront for every site, which could be a footprint in itself. It's like using CloudFlare for every site of a network. However, I like that they don't use WordPress but Pelican to generate static sites and blogs.

    easyblognetworks.com on the other hand uses WordPress and various hosting providers. What worries me about that is that every site is going to be based on WP and also that their IPs might be used for only PBN domains, which could result in a penalty for all domains hosted on their IPs - at least in theory. I could be wrong about that part though, as I haven't tried either service yet.

    What are your opinions and does anyone have experience with both of these services and can share his thoughts?
     
  2. pelangi

    pelangi Regular Member

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    have a big diversify is most option to get your pbn safe...
     
  3. 6TiME6

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    That much is obvious. My question is which of those two services does that best. Both have their pros and cons.
     
  4. Lampara

    Lampara Senior Member

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    I use easy blog networks.. and there are tonsof reviews about it in google better check them out..
     
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    alright alright, easy blog network s better...
     
  6. 6TiME6

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    Thanks for your responses. Could you let me know what other sites are hosted on their IPs? Do they use reseller accounts, ie. share IPs with a bunch of legit websites or are the IPs only shared between different PBN sites? This is my main concern with EBN.

    Also, has either of you tried pbn.hosting?
     
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    Pbnhosting
    1. Each blog in a pbn must have unique IP
    2. It could have good tools to avoid Google penalty
    3. Auto update stats like DA and backlinks
    4. Easy setup with wp plugins and more setting to make a blog unique.
     
  8. 6TiME6

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    That applies to both services in question, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to help?
     
  9. PBNButler

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    Having used EBN for some time for our own network as well as client networks, i will say that its very good.
    BUT I would also have to mention that sometimes you do get DNS issues that can be painful. Also if you accidentally add a domain to the wrong network, you have to wait 24 hours to be able to add it to another, which can be very painful.

    All in all its a great service though and I would recommend it to anyone that is looking for a no hassle solution.
     
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    And It has one more advantage than EBN
    You have to pay extra in EBN to import articles but in PBN.hosting there is no case.
    I think this point would suppose to help you.
     
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  11. 6TiME6

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    Yes, that's a good point - thanks. However, in my particular case it's not relevant, because I'll build the PBN there from the ground up, so I don't need to import anything but maybe archive.org content in some cases. So you prefer pbn.hosting?
     
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    Thank you for sharing your experience with them. Could you let me know what other sites are hosted on their IPs? Do they use reseller accounts, ie. share IPs with a bunch of legit websites or are the IPs only shared between different PBN sites? This is my main concern with EBN.
     
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    We have used them in the past but have decided to migrate our network to our own hosting solution. The IPs they have are dedicated (so not shared with any legit sites as would be the case with shared IPs) and are used to only host their clients' PBN sites. So you can imagine that the IPs have anywhere from 20 to 100+ PBN blogs only hosted on them, which was obviously a huge red flag for us.
     
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  14. 6TiME6

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    Perfect - that's the kind of insight I was looking for and exactly what I suspected. Sooner or later someone will catch up to that. They could prevent this by using shared IPs that some reseller plans provide instead of dedicated ones. I guess I'll rather give pbn.hosting a shot then. Using AWS Cloudfront for all the sites isn't perfect either, but at least it's by far not as risky as hosting exclusively PBNs on the IPs. I also like that it generates static sites instead of using WordPress for everything, which could in itself be a footprint. At least theoretically - I guess there are still enough WordPress sites that it's possible that most contextual links are coming from that CMS.
     
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    EBN has been great for me so far.
     
  16. PBNButler

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    As far as the IPs are concerned, I think that they rotate small pools of IPs. I do think that just like with any pbn hosting, you have to do your due diligence and protect your network.
    I will say though that we havent had any problems in the past.
    Some of our clients do use cloudflare and push it to its limits, for some of them it works well. :)
     
  17. 6TiME6

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    I don't think it matters much whether or not they rotate IPs as long as it's all PBN sites on their IPs. I do believe that it work great for now, but question is for how long this will work until a competitor or Google employee decides to sign-up and penalize all domains hosted on their IPs. Even if I'd use CloudFlare with their services, it will hardly help against IP neighbours not being as careful.
     
  18. I know SEO

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    You can easily hide behind the numbers with cloudflare... Something like 30% of web traffic is routed through cloudflare. They have 100's of 1000's of IP's which constantly change from user to user depending where they are.

    You will need to sign up for a cloudflare account for each separate PBN or there will be footprints. But its a very cool system and one which is pretty close to bullet proof.
     
  19. 6TiME6

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    Yeah, that would be a similar solution as the one that pbn.hosting is offering with AWS Cloudfront, just that it's then CloudFlare's CDN and not Cloudfront's. Even though the IPs between the sites will be different, it's still like using different IPs of the same hosting provider for your whole PBN. It might not be a huge risk, but it's one nonetheless.
     
  20. ThopHayt

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    Sounds to me like it would be optimal to use cloudflare for 30% of your PBN then, since it represents 30% organically. I wasn't aware it had grown to such large volume. Seems like yesterday it was brand new...

    -ThopHayt