Ebay Warning!!!!

What the email said was that eGay is indentifying computers, not IPs!

If this is the case, we're going to have to start some really fancy footwork!
 
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If they are identifying based on your computer that is a real hassle considering most people have more than one computer. Plus, if you get a new one they would be bothering you again. How can they identify the specific computer anyway?
 
If its only the IP address the easiest is to get an VPN cost like $10/month for one IP and goes down the more you take.

However if they register IP&MAC etc...then we are in a whole new ballgame ... well laptops start at $400....
 
Nixte said:
If its only the IP address the easiest is to get an VPN cost like $10/month for one IP and goes down the more you take.

However if they register IP&MAC etc...then we are in a whole new ballgame ... well laptops start at $400....
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Yeah, that is what I am concerned about as well!

I have been told that such sites actually register the hard drive number rather than the MAC address but I dunno.

How do you block that info, anyway?

Oh, you can also bet that if eGay is doing this, so is its bastard child, PayPussy!
 
JavaScript can gather a lot of info about your computer, including MAC address. Not sure if that's what they're doing, or if it's just some sort of beacon or cookie. Surely it can't just be IP address, considering how many people still use dial-up and DSL (and iPhones).

If it's the former, then hopefully disabling scripts and running CCleaner before every login would take care of the issue. And if egay requires JS, well then I guess you'd better get a mac address changer and keep note of which account uses which mad addy, then be ready to switch it over every time you login ... :(
 
Essential Clix said:
JavaScript can gather a lot of info about your computer, including MAC address. Not sure if that's what they're doing, or if it's just some sort of beacon or cookie. Surely it can't just be IP address, considering how many people still use dial-up and DSL (and iPhones).

If it's the former, then hopefully disabling scripts and running CCleaner before every login would take care of the issue. And if egay requires JS, well then I guess you'd better get a mac address changer and keep note of which account uses which mad addy, then be ready to switch it over every time you login ... :(
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Shit.

Used to be a lot easier...oh, well!

It's always SOMETHING!
 
kalekom said:
My account was suspended and received this from live support:

"To protect the Community against unauthorized account access, eBay has started noting which computers members use. For your protection, if you attempt to sign in from an unknown computer - for example, from a library or hotel - eBay will make an automated phone call to your registered phone number to confirm your identity. It is now vital that the phone number and secret question on your account are kept up to date. Please take a minute to update your contact information."
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Are you suspended permanently?
 
Or, you could always just use a Yahoo Phone-In number ($2.50/month) for each account, and be ready to answer the phone (on yahoo msgr) everytime it rings.
 
No, my account was activated after a chat, but I'm not CS yet...
 
Another alternative would be to forward your registered number to your cell phone when you are going to use another computer like at the library.
I always transfer to my cell phone. I had to use the library's computers once when my power went out for days......
 
I dont think you can get a MAC address from pure javascript I think they will be tracking more with flash cookies and checking the IP address is in the same subnet mask.
 
This is an example of a threat that shows why BHW became my second home ....

Anyway ... wish everyone a good week .... I am about to go on vacation, where there is no internet ;)
 
You use to be able to get it with the windows media player you would get a ID that was as good as the mac I did run that with IE 7 but it did not work maybe as I have my security setting set too high..
 
cellk said:
Just searched through google, it appears it is possibe to get mac address
through javascript

http://neilkilbride.blogspot.com/2008/02/finding-user-mac-address-javascript.html

however the script in the page above only works on IE
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this article, this is NOT javascript that is getting the MAC address. the script is loading an activeX, which is not part of javascript or html. it is basically a piece of software that runs on your local machine the same as an executable would.

what happens is when your browser loads that page is it DOWNLOADS the activeX program to your local, your computer then RUNS the activeX which gets your MAC addy and then sends the MAC address BACK to the site.

it is not a case of the website's code grabbing your MAC address, because this is not possible through pure html or javascript code, and it never will be. because of privacy issues and technological issues, such as, even if there was code to grab the mac address through code, it would grab the mac address of the last router that was passed through before connecting to that website, and not the mac address of your pc.

activeX goes around that, because it loads as a software on your local and is then able to get the MAC address directly without having any networking involved, and then sends the info over the net.

Point is, disable activeX or use a browser that doesnt use them like firefox, and your mac and any other info not obtainable through pure javascript and html is safe
 
gts6 said:
this article, this is NOT javascript that is getting the MAC address. the script is loading an activeX, which is not part of javascript or html. it is basically a piece of software that runs on your local machine the same as an executable would.

what happens is when your browser loads that page is it DOWNLOADS the activeX program to your local, your computer then RUNS the activeX which gets your MAC addy and then sends the MAC address BACK to the site.

it is not a case of the website's code grabbing your MAC address, because this is not possible through pure html or javascript code, and it never will be. because of privacy issues and technological issues, such as, even if there was code to grab the mac address through code, it would grab the mac address of the last router that was passed through before connecting to that website, and not the mac address of your pc.

activeX goes around that, because it loads as a software on your local and is then able to get the MAC address directly without having any networking involved, and then sends the info over the net.

Point is, disable activeX or use a browser that doesnt use them like firefox, and your mac and any other info not obtainable through pure javascript and html is safe
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Thanks, man and I'd leave thanks but the button no longer appears for me!

WOO HOO!

Hey, what about having multiple computers with the same MAC address?
 
There are two ways around this problem:

1) Get a PayPal security device. It's $5, and one device will work with your paypal account and your ebay account. Once activated, each time you log in, ebay/paypal prompts you for the 6 digit number displayed on the security device. The number changes every 30 seconds. Your number entered must match the number ebay calculates, or you don't get in. I travel a lot, and have been using one of these for months, they work great. About the size of a flash drive. If you use this method, they will never call you, and you won't have your account shut down for logging in from a strange ip address.

2) Have all your auctions posted by a 3rd party service, like vendio, auctiva (not good if you are stuffing as auctiva stuffs also, with ebay's permission), doba.com, etc. Once you generate the token for one of these services to use to access your account, you never need to log into your account directly, just log into your 3rd party posting company. I use vendio, and they post about 100 auctions a day for me, all automated.
 
Good idea, also possible is Turbolister for listing your auctions on eBay or do you think they collect too much data about it?
 
So what ae they going to do with a user who uses dial up ...call there home number everytime they use there computer...the ip addy changes everytime...there idiots
 
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