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Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by dennis_797, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. dennis_797

    dennis_797 Registered Member

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    Hi everyone, hopefully this is the right section.

    I've been working with someone on a JV project. My role is to write the content and we now have over 100 pages worth of content. My partner doesn't seem to be pulling his weight too much with the SEO side of things which is really frustrating as I've been working hard.

    My question is this. If I were to pull out of the JV I would like to continue solo. I don't want to lose months of work though that have already been written. We split everything equally, but he owns the site and it is located on his hosting. I don't know if the search engines would slap a penalty on my new site if I started out with 100 pages of duplicate content, even though I had written it. Is there a way to do this without incurring any sort of penalty, or using some sort of webmaster tools to confirm I am owner of the content and so can continue.

    I don't want to appear to be scamming the other person, but it is infuriating to put hours of work in and not feel like the other person has done their fair share, but still gets to benefit from my hard work.

    Thanks
     
  2. prab1996

    prab1996 Elite Member

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    if you not trust him then leave now.

    you will have nothing if he kick you out after you have written 100 articles .

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  3. dennis_797

    dennis_797 Registered Member

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    I don't suspect he is going to kick me out and steal the work as he is getting quality content in high quantities for doing little. Is there a way to claim back the work I have done to use in my own projects without it appearing as duplicate content? Or is duplicate content not something to be too concerned with?
     
  4. gavinb

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    nope you are quite in a position here. If those pages have been indexed, the only thing you can do is remove them from that site AND THEN put them on your site. If you just copy-paste then awaits the ban hammer :)
     
  5. prab1996

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    it will be duplicate content if you will use at any place google will flag it.

    it happens , wait some time.
    i hope your jv partner will not cheat you.

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  6. dennis_797

    dennis_797 Registered Member

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    Would it be possible to deindex the pages using the Google Webmaster Tools and then have them reindexed on the new site? Would this still count as duplicate content?
     
  7. WebMeUp

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    First, you should try to solve it with your ex employer.

    However, if he/she doesn't agree to remove your articles, then you will have to contact the website hosting service that hosts their website. You can find the information you need by going to http://www.whoishostingthis.com/ and typing in the URL of a website that illegally holds your content. As a rule, website hosting services are much more efficient when it comes to removing duplicate content. Just make sure that you can prove that the content is really yours.

    One more option (rather difficult one) is filing a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) complaint . This can be done via https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=sitemaps&passive=1209600&continue=https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl%3Den&followup=https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl%3Den&hl=en. That's rather a complex procedure and should be done only if someone else is getting high rankings for your content.

    And!

    To avoid such such situations in the future, you need to set up http://www.google.com/insidesearch/features/authorship/index.html. This will help you prove you are the original creator of the content and no one else has the right to publish it.

    Hope you find these tips useful.
     
  8. gavinb

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    DMCA is a better choice than deindex. Also if you have access to the site's webmaster center then just remove the pages from there - file a DMCA and put content with authorship on your own site.
     
  9. dennis_797

    dennis_797 Registered Member

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    Hi everyone, thanks for the responses.

    Just to clarify, the person didn't put the site up illegally originally. I guess the best way to describe it would be conditional permission, which was breached. I want the break to be amicable, so would prefer not to go the DMCA route.

    I still have access to the site, and I'm still hopeful we can find a resolution. To anyone knowledgeable, is it possible to add Google Authorship to the article retrospectively (nobody has claimed authorship that way yet) and then if things don't work out I can prove the ownership to put them onto my new site?
     
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    If you still have access to the site, I would noindex the pages with your content on them immediately. Then, I would delete those pages altogether from the website and wait for them to disappear from the main and supplemental Google indices. You'll also need to perform spot checks to see if the content was picked up anywhere else on the web, and have those removed as well. Once that's all done, you're ready to post the content on your new site.

    The DMCA option is probably the best way to protect yourself legally. However, I'm not sure how much success you'll have since you originally agreed to post the content on your JV site.

    As far as authorship, you should still be able to ad your rel=author tags. But, I'm not sure if there is a way to port content over to a new site once you've claimed authorship. Maybe someone else can chime in on that topic.
     
  11. Techxan

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    You should go ahead and build your site, and apply Google authorship to both sites.

    In the first place, no quality site will likely get hit for duplicate content. IRL it doesn't work that way, especially if there are only two sources.

    Secondly. you are giving 100 pounds of worry for a 2 oz problem.

    Carry on, and damn the torpedoes. Just keep putting out quality,and claim your articles with authorship.
     
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    Just do what Techxan said - he is 100% right about the whole situation, duplicate content isn't that bad as it sounds for quality sites, for example there are many big big news sites, all having the exact same news content automatically submitted by news agency like Reuters or DDB. Just build up your site and claim the correct way your authorship and you should be fine.
     
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    Contact the host. Explain the situation. Provide proof of the JV and your content ownership. Demand the content be pulled down.
     
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    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    OP, if you wrote the articles and you haven't sold them to him then you are the copyright holder.
    You hold all the rights to the work.

    Tell him you are going your separate ways and tell him you want your work removed. He probably won't but then send a DMCA to him and the host.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
     
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    if you've written the content, you own it, period.

    you can take it down and use it on some other site, if the other person isn't keeping up to their fair share of work, its time to pull out from the JV.
     
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    Go your own way...
     
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    If the content has not been "published" on the site for over 90 days group them all up as one collection of works and pay the 35 bucks to the us copyright office. This is what you need for a real take down notice that will stop the serps from linking to his site.
    http://www.copyright.gov/eco/
     
  18. MadStacks

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    A good thing to remember is your not partners when someone owns a website and you work hard on it and have no
    ownership over it. Really then you are just his sucker. If I am a partner of something I want my hand behind the steering wheel to.