JournoNick
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Screenshot of my search engine visibility. The highlighted part id from when I created this thread.
Dropped from 1st to 16th over night!
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ArtVandelay
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My biggest site was hit within the last 24 hrs as well.
I'll build some more links over the next week or so but if it gets any worse I'll call it a loss and move on.
I'll build some more links over the next week or so but if it gets any worse I'll call it a loss and move on.
When did it exactly happen?
One of my sites got hit on 13/14 May (dropped 10-30 positions). Its a mature site that has got links only from good quality articles on web 2.0s and some PBN-s. My spammy sites didn't get hit though...
One of my sites got hit on 13/14 May (dropped 10-30 positions). Its a mature site that has got links only from good quality articles on web 2.0s and some PBN-s. My spammy sites didn't get hit though...
AnthonyCorleone
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+1 on may 13/14 got hit big time drooped by 200-300 from top 5 
but same time some fucker did negative seo with 8k+ backlinks during this 2 days perhaps that's the reason
but same time some fucker did negative seo with 8k+ backlinks during this 2 days perhaps that's the reason
JournoNick
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I'd say the 14th for me, it's been going down since.
After assessing all my sites, I can say with confidence that PBN's are good, web 2.0 links are bad, and this would be penguin 3.0 that's hit us all with the main target for "low quality links" being web 2.0 pages or posts and websites with multiple authors being listed as guest blog networks. The funniest part is, the only keywords that dropped were the ones that either had an exact match anchor text from a spun article, or were from a website looking like guest blog network.
Please feel free to add your two cents.
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MP123
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How many posts do you have on your web 2.0?
JournoNick
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Ah yes, I forgot to add it's the ones with 1 article. The web 2.0's with 6+ articles don't seem to be affected, yet. Who knows if this was the entire update also, maybe they are testing the update before unleashing the big black dildo to the streets.
MP123
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lol
Well I just done this
This worked for me, I figured that would happen with web 2.0 and it's why I put more articles on em, manually too. It makes sense that if there is a common pattern with the web 2.0 that eventually they will start to de-value the link... which now means even more manual work if you require a result... i just treat mine like a money site but not as serious.
How are you fighting back bro? if it where me, I would start diluting with social media signals.
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JournoNick
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It's business as usual for me and pushing through it. This is actually the first update that has had a negative affect on me. Changing my strategies of course, but that's where the fun parts come in
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You call this white hat?
Well what would you call it? If he's not doing blackhat linking and he's using legitimate high quality articles, etc, then what do you call it? It might be 'grey' if he's linking too much, but if he's not spamming, etc, then it's not black either.
leobar
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just wait for the dust to settle down and then see what happens.
its useless to take any action now since you dont know yet whats hapening.
Best wishes.
Leobar.
JournoNick
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Thanks and yes, you might call it grey, I guess, but I wouldn't considering most linking is done from outreach. Some articles are from bloggers that interviewed me, some articles are ones that I have written specifically for that blog on a particular topic and the link is "this article was written by...." and other articles are reference links to articles I have written for my blog section.
As mentioned earlier, there are some bloggers that write an article then can't be bothered anymore, or they write an article on a web 2.0 to give a link to themselves. Basically it leaves a one article web 2.0 link that I did not buy or make myself.
Also I mentioned earlier that I think this may have been P3 update which targeted those single page web 2s and guest blogging networks that have those "this article was written by...." links.
Look, to cut a long story short, Google sucks and punishes people either way. This rank drop has made me rethink doing white hat SEO all together, so I'm moving into 301's and PBN's, because if I'm going to sink hard work and money into a website, and be penalized anyway, then I might as well rank at the top and make more money from it.
You did this Google! You made me turn to the dark side. :thefinger
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SalieriJazz
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I've been working for over 5 months for my multi-niche site, almost all white-hat ... and Google still penalizes me? What the fuck? Really? I've been taking this route, the "safe seo", because I wanted long term profits, but seems like google still fucks me up for what? Like JournoNick said above, I'm thinking of getting in Churn and Burn right now and blast the shit of some wordpress sites/blogspots, etc.
Because ... Google penalizes us either way. Really, I worked REALLY clean and they still plays with my rankings that bad? From page 1 (4th) to page 4? FUCK THAT. Excuse my language, but really ... that is a disgrace for them. PLUS: I've been waiting for this update, really, because I was veery sure that my rankings will go UP, because almost all my competitors did CHURN AND BURN. They have spammed blogspots. And ... instead of penalizing them, they are even HIGHER in rankings. The hell, really? I can't believe this shit.
Because ... Google penalizes us either way. Really, I worked REALLY clean and they still plays with my rankings that bad? From page 1 (4th) to page 4? FUCK THAT. Excuse my language, but really ... that is a disgrace for them. PLUS: I've been waiting for this update, really, because I was veery sure that my rankings will go UP, because almost all my competitors did CHURN AND BURN. They have spammed blogspots. And ... instead of penalizing them, they are even HIGHER in rankings. The hell, really? I can't believe this shit.
CuteIsWhatWeAimFor
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Sorry to hear that.
All I can say is there's no such this as "safe seo".
All "seo" is blackhat so why not just be true about it.
hotantivirus
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There is something happening, some of my websites went from #1-10 to nowhere, all links from a PBN. Just hoping they weren't able to figure it out.
SalieriJazz
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Yes, I know. But, come on! That niche had around 50 backlinks on it and I was on page 1 (#4), and my competitors are doing churn and burn, and G penalizez me? THE HELL!??
darkmalice
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I just dropped from page 1 (4th Pos) to Page 5 over the past 2 days. I run a legit site so Im not stressed but building High PR Backlinks seems to be the next step for me.