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Don't repeat the same mistakes guys

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by avilux, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. avilux

    avilux Power Member

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    I keep seeing the same old stories again and again on here. I've been there before too, so I mean I understand where you guys are coming from. And this is BLACKHATworld.. but I mean.. that doesn't necessarily mean you're supposed to go fully blackhat into YouTube.

    I think the best strategy is to use blackhat tactics outside of YT and direct traffic onto a fully whitehat channel so that you can have a no-risk, long term investment going. And then once you're established enough, for example a large channel and you have direct contact with YT employees.. you can slowly do some blackhat strategies here and there (still against spam, bots and definitely HATE fake followers/views, as that's a waste of money and pointless) to crush the competition and tower above everyone.

    But it seems too many people want instant gratification. I'd seriously advise against all of these things:

    -Uploading material you do not have the full permissions to
    -Using any bots for YT
    -Buying fake traffic/followers
    -Immediately putting up affiliate links and spam before even establishing channel
    -Mentioning the three main no-no's of business (UNLESS your channel is unorthodox and it'll help your niche and your followers will like it), aka sex, religion and politics
    -Uploading risky content (soft core porn, hate videos, etc.)
    -Begging for views/subs
    -Uploading too much (unless you know what you're doing exactly.. there has to be a point where you stop and focus on quality once you have an established base of subs)
    -Trying to sell out before you even have loyal subs

    And there's more, but you get the point. Basically don't be in this for the short-term. YouTube is worth a lot more than other platforms, simply because you can monetize it in much more ways than Instagram or Tumblr or others. You can use it a stepping stone to other platforms in a more effective manner than trying to do vice versa.

    If you want to make money.. focus on building a quality channel with unique copyright-free content. Post consistently and promote with persistence. Try and get videos about the latest trends to encourage viewers and build relationships with them to get subscribers. ONLY once you have an established channel to work with.. only then should you focus on money. But even then, don't go fully into that. If that's your #1 goal, you will fail. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it'll happen eventually.

    I'm certainly not a millionaire right now, but I will be if my YouTube channels keep going where I'm planning them to go. I'm in full control, and I have much less stress than when my old channels suddenly went viral. I could've made $100K in a single summer had I not been greedy and just broken many of my own rules back then. And if anything happens to my channels, I'm able to email some employees directly now and since I'm building a relationship with YouTube itself, I'll be helped.

    YouTube hates spammers and people with low quality stuff. I'm not saying you have to be good at what you post.. I mean my content is nowhere near perfect, but if you're low quality everything (marketing, content, efforts to run the channel, etc.), you will fail.

    Viewers aren't stupid and they will see past most blackhat strategies. Only use the more advanced ones when you know you'll be able to get away with it. I've lost too many accounts on a bunch of social media platforms that could've made me filthy rich today. I'm not saying go fully whitehat.. just think smarter, use more effective routes to get to that money.

    Peace and good luck
     
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  2. abhijit12345

    abhijit12345 BANNED BANNED

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    hey i have seen your journey just a few min ago what type of videos do u post??
    are they your own videos and if so what type of videos do you make and post and how do you post on reddit coz i see if you want to post on reddit you need alot of karma
     
  3. avilux

    avilux Power Member

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    Yeah for anyone reading this, I do have a Journey over in Making Money about my personal YT channel. My main channel right now is rather small, but its 1.5K subs are a heck of a lot more powerful than even if my 63K gaming sub channel were fully active.

    This is because it's my personal. I post vlogs but I'm slowly shifting into other things as well. It's my own content so people like that and I dont have to worry about copyright or any of that crap. I'm building a brand, as in.. myself. I'm the brand. Kind of like TRUMP. Even if Trump's businesses were all to fail right now (let's forget about politics for a second and just focus on if he were solely a businessman), everyone and their mother knows who he is. He can get a job anywhere. He can get investors anywhere. He can do whatever he wants because everybody recognizes him. If my channel were to fail, which it won't, but if it did.. I could start up a new one and people would quickly recognize it's me and bam, I'd be back up there in no time. It won't fail though since I'm finally in contact with YT employees. (To get here, you must have a channel with at least 10K or so subs, give or take, and schedule a conference call. You will get an email or notification once YT recognizes your channel).

    I go by the 90/10 rule. I don't spam. I post responses 90% of the time and the nevery now and then post my own stuff and upvote it if I think it's worthy enough and it does decent. I use a couple of accounts but I don't go fully into it with bots and all that, so that's why I've probably not been banned and I'm allowed to post so much. My karma's really good. Just post in targetted subreddits.
     
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  4. markoz

    markoz Newbie

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    That's 100% true. I get irritated looking at some of the videos that post a custom thumbnail to fool the visitors. That's a very bad, unethical thing to do on a platform that's offered free to everyone. Moreover these gimmicks could only end up losing the account. What's the point in spending that much time only to end up on ground zero.
     
  5. avilux

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    I think the best way to put it is how Casey Neistat uses it. It's not perfect, but lately he's realized his mistakes. People HATED how he only used a thumbnail of like the last second of his vlogs.. and it was obviously something that had no relation to the vlog. I mean he did put it in though.. But still, people were upset. So now he doesn't abuse it, but he still explained why he likes clickbait. It's basically to get people in to view your content. If your content's good, people will stay and won't feel upset. Bait isn't to lure people in and pounce on them like prey.. it's more like an ad for something they would've ended up watching one way or another anyways.
     
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    I know a guy who begged for views and subs like crazy, he was also in exchange view networks and now he has over 2 million subs.
    Channel name: Onision
    Damn i hate this guy.
     
  7. avilux

    avilux Power Member

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    But if you look at his statistics, you can see many people hate his videos. And not in the good way.. his engagement kind of sucks for 2.2M subs. It's not the worst, but there are other people with less subscribers who do daily uploads (he spaces them out, so he technically should be getting more) who get double the amount of views on their videos. It's all about having loyal subs. He should be getting probably 1.5-3x the amount of views he is right now. Plus he is an older YouTube channel.. I mean he did start when YT basically first came out.
     
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  8. Cherrysword

    Cherrysword Newbie

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    Hahaha I remember getting a youtube employer begging me to join their annual exposition or something like that,
    I had around 30k+ subs and millions of views... too bad it is copyrighted material, so I ain't got time fo dat haha!
     
  9. avilux

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    Yeah quite frankly I'm surprised I didn't receive anything from YouTube the multiple times I had large channels (xx,xxx) over the past couple of years. Only now finally this year. Should've happened 5-6 channels ago lol, but oh well. I'm just glad I have protection now against stupid flags and all that.
     
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    I know many people uploading content which doesn't belong to them, and I can tell you that they earn at least XXX per month
     
  11. avilux

    avilux Power Member

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    And that's great, but it all runs out eventually. I mean I made accounts that people wanted to buy for over $10K in less than a few weeks, but they hosted content that wasn't mine. I would've made 10x more money had some of my accounts not been banned or striked or even threatened with lawsuits. I can guarantee you that every person who uploads content that isn't theirs eventually will get screwed if they don't do something about it. Because if they keep growing, then eventually one pair of eyeballs will get pissed and flag the content or sue. Even SoFloAntonio had to go through a lot of shit for blatant copyright on FB. Sure you can get away with it for a long time even.. but I'd rather work on something that I know will stay there forever instead of something I'd be worried about losing on a daily basis.
     
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    of course, you had a point. but my point is many many guys do that and they are still alive, but you had a point. work safe and you won't be screwed
     
  13. fluxo27

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    hey avilux, how did you get in contact with youtube staff?
    do they message you once you hit a certain amount of viewers?
     
  14. avilux

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    With my gaming channel I had a message when I logged in one day about signing up for a YouTube consultation. Got contacted a day later and spoke with a rep and took it from there. You are usually going to get a consultation past 10K subs but it could happen with less. Also to contact them directly via email after that, your channel must have more than 15,000 hours watched over the past 90 days.
     
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  15. fabricio1233

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    I only made money by doing exactly some methods you mentioned above that you are against :v
     
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    Nice advises. Thanks a lot mate
     
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    Yaaap the goal is not about money but your content i mean "original content".
     
  18. avilux

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    And are you still making money that is constantly growing each month (or at least every 2-3 months)? And if so, how long do you think it will last?
     
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    conglica Junior Member

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    people how are you earning that much from youtube? the best i could ever do in a month is $85 and that was only once

    can someone guide me a bit... i would like to earn about $150 a month to pay for my monthly bills, i do not need to make a living from youtube
     
  20. xenmaster76

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    I was surprised to find out a video I made about the 2016 election is making $40 bucks a month. lol. I had no idea.

    I then created some more videos with good content / nice photo banner relating similar election topics, and they barely get views.

    To me it's just a crap shoot. I don't think YT knows what is going on. You can post all sorts of scammy crap and they will not know. Key is to entice the viewer. Look at Tai Lopez. The first 5-10 seconds of his first video drew people in.