Domain Age Help Thread - Ask me anything

[JesusBack]

I already marked this thread for a careful read at the end of the work day. Interesting subject.

But I already have a question:

As I have a number of pretty aged domains (down to 1996), what is your experience of interlinking (different IPs, anchor text...) aged domains to rank the money site at spot #1 or so?

Thanksfor your time.

if the sites have good trustrank my guess is that they would shuffle over their trustrank as well.

 

[vigocc]

domain age is important ？ =。=

 

[shadowedsniper]

When does domain name begin to come a factor in increasing trustrank?

Like after how many years will domain age be acknowledged by google as being more good than bad. After the first year? 3rd? 5th?

Thanks

 

[beazt]

@JesusBack: Very informational and useful thread, I just had a question.

I noticed you mentioned earlier in the thread that 301-redirect from an aged domain to a new one does not pass on the domain authority. However, 301 redirect means a website has moved permanently to a new address, and as such Search engines would obviously transfer all of its attributes like PR, link juice and trust factor onto the new domain.

This would hold true unless either Google notices that the registrant information has been changed to a new owner, in which case the domain age would be reset to zero. As such, not changing the domain registrar as well as getting Whois guard installed seems like good ways of avoiding this.

What is your take on all of this? Thanks.

 

[iminmenorca]

domain age is never an anti penalty mechanism. If you want to do blasting try to get a site like associated content as your middle man.

by this do you mean burn a satelite site? (or sites)

 

[JesusBack]

When does domain name begin to come a factor in increasing trustrank?

Like after how many years will domain age be acknowledged by google as being more good than bad. After the first year? 3rd? 5th?

Thanks

many

@JesusBack: Very informational and useful thread, I just had a question.

I noticed you mentioned earlier in the thread that 301-redirect from an aged domain to a new one does not pass on the domain authority. However, 301 redirect means a website has moved permanently to a new address, and as such Search engines would obviously transfer all of its attributes like PR, link juice and trust factor onto the new domain.

This would hold true unless either Google notices that the registrant information has been changed to a new owner, in which case the domain age would be reset to zero. As such, not changing the domain registrar as well as getting Whois guard installed seems like good ways of avoiding this.

What is your take on all of this? Thanks.

TrustRank is NOT transferred over to a new domain via a perm redirect.

by this do you mean burn a satelite site? (or sites)

I mean like an article on associated content.

 

[iminmenorca]

many




I mean like an article on associated content.

Right Got ya !!
jesusback - you're a ledge! - will rate

 

[beazt]

many



TrustRank is NOT transferred over to a new domain via a perm redirect.

Can you list any credible source to verify this?

 

[JesusBack]

Can you list any credible source to verify this?

can you list a credible source to verify trustrank?

 

[beazt]

can you list a credible source to verify trustrank?

Well, I was not just talking about Trustrank but all of the attributes that goes with an aged domain, including trustrank. This might be some PR, the link juice, and most importantly the trust that a domain wins after a couple of years.

Trustrank seems more of a page level metric, and not a domain specific one. The following links shed more light on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrustRank

http://www.seobook.com/archives/000661.shtml

http://www.vldb.org/conf/2004/RS15P3.PDF

I am not trying to say that you are wrong, in fact I highly appreciate you starting such a thread. It is just that I wanted to see on what grounds you made such an assumption.

 

[JesusBack]

Well, I was not just talking about Trustrank but all of the attributes that goes with an aged domain, including trustrank. This might be some PR, the link juice, and most importantly the trust that a domain wins after a couple of years.

Trustrank seems more of a page level metric, and not a domain specific one. The following links shed more light on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrustRank

http://www.seobook.com/archives/000661.shtml

http://www.vldb.org/conf/2004/RS15P3.PDF

I am not trying to say that you are wrong, in fact I highly appreciate you starting such a thread. It is just that I wanted to see on what grounds you made such an assumption.

those aren't valid sources. google never openly admits trustrank so the only way we can use trustrank is based on experience which is what I was giving my info based on. sorry if that wasn't extremely clear

 

[Paragone23]

Hey Jesus, I had a few questions about aged domains and would really appreciate it if you answered it.

Do you do anything specific once you purchase the domain to keep it's pr and it's strength?

Do you purchase privacy protection so google can't see the past owners? Read that over at backlinks forum.

Lets say for example, i bought an aged domain about red widgets, will the domain be affected if i put up content about blue widgets.

Will it affect me if the previous backlinks is " Red Widget" pointing back to my site which is now about blue widgets?

The site i am looking at was dropped twice,looking at domaintools, (Registrar History: 1 registrar with 2 drops -taken from domain tools) but still is indexed by google, 1996 with a PR 4, it was crawled at a very healthy rate from 96 all the way up to 2010, does it matter if it was dropped twice?

Thank you for your time.

John

 

[mikie46]

Key rule is - older is always better. I had a domain from 1998 and I did a crappy blast from xrumer (on overused forums). Now everyone from that keyword is pissed off that I'm ranking with such horrible backlinks.
edit:also if you're going to do this remember to spin the anchor text.

Are you talking about Domain Age with PR1+ or domain age with a PR0?

 

[phluid]

100% not true for bought domains or recently dropped domains.

Does the whois DB matter at all? I recently picked up 2 sites the other day they expired that were both just shy of 3 years old and if I check the whois it shows as a fresh domain. I have been told it has to be a transfer for the domain age to stay intact and from my experience on purchasing other domains that were done by transfer this seems to be true. Does google look at this or is it more to do with when it was indexed than when it was registered? Either way I am not at a loss as the amount and quality of the backlinks to the sites are still good.

 

[albaniax]

Ok, I have read a lot, seen a lot and tried a few about this whole domain thing and have come to the following conclusion:

1. It's BEST to just go and make an offer to small site's in your niche. You will wonder at how cheap you can get them sometimes and the best THING: You transfer your domain, it never drops!

I don't think that Google doesn't pay attention to if a Domain is being dropped and re-registered,
sometimes people tend to forget with whom they are dealing with

2. Build your WHOISnabber, scrape domains from your niche, Wikipedia, Dmoz, etc. and grab only those WITH BACKLINKS!
As this is what remains, after the domain is being dropped.

You can also use Registercompass, Dropay and Domainface - Which will look at domain (auctions) being dropped out for you, if you don't want to make your own Whois-checker, and scrape your own database of domains.


I'm out..

 

[ventureman]

how do you get your aged domains? i tryed goggle auctions but things get really expensive there

 

[NapsteR]

you are blasting with sb and xrumer at domain a. Domain a is redirected to domain b. Will domainb penalized?

 

[ThopHayt]

Domain age is a very powerful it not one of the most powerful factors affecting the ranking of your site.

Domain age is the most powerful factor in "TrustRank" - an algorithm not openly admitted by Google.

I've ranked for great keywords against people that use BlackHat SEO by taking into account factors such as Domain Age and TrustRank linking.

Feel free to ask me any questions about how Domain Age and TrustRank are affecting you right now, I will answer in this thread. Also if you PM me I might not get it since my inbox likes to be stuffed.

Big kudos and thank you for making this thread. Good stuff!

 

[ThopHayt]

I do have a question for the OP though that is scaring the droppings out of me:

I want to switch the primary domain URL of a website from a 10 year aged domain to a SLIGHTLY better sounding domain URL. It'll be the same owner and I can do a 301-redirect or whatever I need to do..... BUT, is there any way I can do this without losing the trust status that the aged domain enjoyed?

The only difference is the old aged domain was the term "mt" and the new one has "mtn" instead and makes a better sounding domain.

Is there ANY way to keep the trust rankings and/or age status while still switching to a new primary domain URL?

 

[LowCountry]

Jesus, I just did a 301 re-direct from my old site to the new one. I've read mixed things on whether or not the age of the old domain is transferred to the new one. What are your thoughts on that? Sorry if that's a stupid question. I'm a newbie.