Man, there's a lot of lying and manipulation of words going on from Trueblood. Eventually the truth always comes out.
Trueblood did send me $40 (from an uncomfirmed paypal) but, that was right AFTER I told him I'm going to post the screenshot on bhw to see what people have to say. He begged me not to post this, and said, "please, don't post the screenshot on bhw".
From somebody who is saying they only received 68 leads, and saying that most of the leads were "test" leads or duplicates. Why, would somebody pay $40 for this? I never asked for any money. I was willing to put up my own money which I did with the previous tests. Or does it make more sense that somebody's about to get busted and have a bad repuation and pay $40 to try and bribe the other into not going public with this?
He keeps bringing up the $40 I told him I don't care about $40. I care about a long term profitable relationship. I spent about $500 on testing with j/v's this past week. I don't care about his $40. I don't believe his intentions were to send me that for the leads. I was testing with two lead sources and the one I setup Trueblood with was new at posting in CE and I told him all this but, I did it since I thought I was going to end up benefiting him due to my new source allowing additional customization in the campaign and being able to offer more targeted leads.
You know how they say, repeating the same thing over and over from something that's not working and trying to expect results is insanity. So, the first two tests didn't work so I started trying to make changes, you know like "tweaking and optimizing" a campaign. So, those particular changes didn't work out, there was issues with gmails getting disabled for forwarding (according to the poster). So, that's why he ended up getting only 68 leads. I think he said something about me lying and that I can't deliver the 1k leads. I can deliver those and did, he even knows those people, bigtay and revan. The conversion rates were just too low.
If there is a mod that wants access to my PM's. I will allow access, you can see my behavior and how I was talking to Trueblood, being very professional throughout everything until I got treated like a fucking idiot with this screenshot. You can see from the PM's that I let Trueblood know about setting him up with the previous poster. Then out of nowhere he sends me this PM that says, "those leads you sent from the previous person were fake..." how can he come up with this conclusion? Then I sent him a PM saying, "they're not fake. trust me on that" and you're getting emails/leads from CL in real time and you can even verify the posts are up from the links in some of the emails. So, how can you say that's fake? Then I told him that if there's anything to discuss that I'm on MSN. That's when my questioning started getting deeper and he came up with this screenshot.
Seriously, he keeps bringing up $40. I lost hundreds this past week with the j/v tests, I'm not complaining. It is what it is. I take risks but, I take calculated risks. I'm not a fucking idiot and I don't appreciate people trying to play me.
How am I a scammer here? Spending money to try and make some profitable j/v relationships. Then I have to deal with people trying to take advantage of the situation and lie to me to get me to spend my money on them. He never told me the screenshot was fake. He would look so pathetic if he admiited it after I busted him trying to pull that on me. What do most people do in a situation like this? They just keep lying and dig themselves deeper trying to get out of the first lie. Just like children, that's what a lot of people, and that's what he was/is doing. Just lying and lying, he can't stop after what he has dug himself into.
He's saying I stole his method. More lies. First of all, I told him his landing pages look similiar to the first two tests. So, I was asking him, why does he feel so confident that his landing pages will convert when the first two tests didn't, with very similar style landing pages. Does this sound like I'm impressed? Secondly, that is how it is in a J/V, there is trust involved. If you feel that you might get ripped off, or have some ideas that you cannot disclose, then don't even think about it. Why even think about doing a J/V if you have something so profitable and confidential that you cannot risk any 3rd party finding out?
BALLIN!
