Does link wheel really work?

feixia913 said:

I really don't understand, if link wheel asks for so much work, why not choose traditional backlink building method? Is there any difference between linkwheel and traditional link buiding method?

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The difference is that you have more sites / sales platforms when you use a linkwheel.

Traditional backlink building will only promote your money site. In a linkwheel, you promote a central money site using slave sites which can also become money sites at any time. If successful, you will crowd out the top 10 with your sites and begin to dominate.

It's not that much work considering the potantial benefits. You can create a big linkwheel in a day's hard work if you do it manually. The main drag is promoting the slave sites. Sometimes it's not necessary. But often, 5 or 10 good spam links are required to get the slave sites to rank.

Hey Micallef, what kind of ''spam links'' are you talking about? Do you use some sort of tool to build these spam links?

Shouldn't you social bookmark the individual spokes as well?

Also, when you use method described above with the twelve spokes - do you target the same keyword for each of the 12 spokes?

Personnaly I target the same keyword for each spokes of the LW
I think by spam links he mean ******** blog commenting

insider said:

Personnaly I target the same keyword for each spokes of the LW

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Which makes sense - you have more chance of dominating the first page of Google.

Micallef - have you diagrammed the linkwheel example you gave? I'd be interested in taking a look at that. You don't happen to provide linkwheel services, do you?

And thanks for sharing such good advice in these forums. Very helpful info.

So just to get everything right -

I have my main site (i like the golf analogy so we'll use that).

GolfSite_001 will be my main page (can you tell I used to be a gamer? lol) with lots of content about drivers, a full page story on my experience with one particular driver, and my affiliate link. This would be a hard sale page where I'm really trying to get people to buy it, but without being pushy.

I create 5? 10? 15? 20? Smaller blogs/websites/review sites, with domains and URLs etc, we will call these Golfsite_002 and Golfsite_003, with affiliate links the same as my main golf site, but just a small bit of information about the driver and a "to read the rest of the story, go [here]". So if people saw any of those sites under the same search on google, it would have a slightly different feel, look, and the content wouldn't be the exact same, but close. In the end though, its just a smaller hinting page at what i want, with the idea to possibly get an easy sell or get people to be more interested and go to my harder sale page.

Then further out on the wheel, would be smaller blogs on the main blog sites like blogger.com without any affiliate banners, but a quick link or two to your affiliate and your main site, with more original content, but super short. Readers digest version perhaps?

Then somewhere in the middle of all of that linkwheel chaos would be youtube videos, rss feeds, blog commenting, guestbook commenting, educational website backlinks, etc.

Basically, from how it seems to me, its all the exact same mentality of a big linked together squeeze page, but tricking people into thinking you're all different people with the same idea. This would be playing off the psychology study that was done on how people trust Google more than their own friends on what to buy. Slowly trying to filter people in one step closer, and closer, till they buy, or go onto read more of your exact same content or information to hopefully buy again.

Am i getting this correctly?

Also, with these wheels, if I am correct in my understanding. How far out do you 'professionals' go? How many spokes I guess would be the right way to say it.

Thanks so much

Seariz

Seariz said:

I create 5? 10? 15? 20? Smaller blogs/websites/review sites, with domains and URLs etc,

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No - you do these on web 2.0 props such as wordpress.com - not actually hosting the blog/article in question.

I`ve read through the entire thread, so I either missed it or no one said anything about it; how many sites is good for a wheel? And how many articles per site? I`m using 6 sites atm, and I`m about to spin and post a sh!tload of articles.
How many links should I get for each of the 6 sites? Does such a number even exist? And is it enough to get links for the main index on those sites, or should I get links for every article? Something close to the latter seems to work best in some of my other projects, so it`s probably a dumb question, but I`m asking anyhow. Never built a wheel like this before, not sure if the "rules" are any different..

Try 12 sites with 5 high PR backlinks each.

Oh, ok. Thanks.

I thought I would have to build a lot more links than that.. Is it better to have more sites in any case? What if I have 6 sites with 30 links to each? I`ll probably go for what you said, I`m just wondering here.

Six is not enough because for random reasons beyond your control, many properties will fail to achieve indexing or rank.

Five backlinks each should give you a good chance but linkwheel success is all about choosing the right keyword. I can't guide you through this, but the more linkwheels you do, the more aware you will become of little points which suggest to you that a linkwheel might work on a particular keyword.

Give this time its gradual process and takes time its not instant

Are there any properties that are particularly recommended when it comes to indexing and ranking? I`m using Blogger, Wordpress, Blog, Blogsome, Squido, Yolasite..

Blogger is awful.

Wordpress, squidoo and hubpages are often successful.

Ok.. Is it ok to have several sites from the same property, then?

As long as they are not next to each other in the chain, I see no harm in it. However, you will need separate accounts for each property.

Ok, cool. Thanks for all the help. I`ll set it all up first thing in the morning and let you know how it all goes..

Micallef said:

As long as they are not next to each other in the chain, I see no harm in it. However, you will need separate accounts for each property.

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So by this do you mean, if I was to target 2 different long tailed keywords (2 link wheels) and I happen to use Hubpages for 1 article in both, I'd need 2 different accounts, and probably 2 different IP addresses and email, name etc?

If both sets of keywords relate to each other, is this still the case, or because they are both ontheme, the same account is ok?