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Does a site need to have keywords in it?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by jubu211, Mar 1, 2011.

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  1. jubu211

    jubu211 Newbie

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    For an example, let's say I have a 1 page site. For my backlinking campaign, do the keywords I want to target actually have to be on the site.

    Like I build a backlink with the anchor text "News" but that word is nowhere on the actual site. Will that still work? The site would have news on it, but not actually use that word so it would be related.

    This is just an example so don't worry about it being just 1 page or the fact It would be pretty impossible to rank well for that keyword.
     
  2. eyerish

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    Yes. It is a good rule of thumb to actually have the keyword you are targeting in the body of your website.

    My 10 year old private school educated son recently asked me if I was alive when Abraham Lincoln was (I'm 37). Sadly...his question was dumber than yours. :D
     
  3. blackhatdavid

    blackhatdavid Regular Member

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    It is kind of a shame when people waste space with threads like this. Do this...

    1.) Think of a search term - come on...you can do it
    2.) Open your web browser and go to google.com
    3.) Type in the term you thought of.
    4.) Look at the results.

    Does the first site listed have the search term in the URL? Probably not...most of them don't. Let me see then...does that mean you can get a site to rank for a term that is not in your URL?

    Come on...use your own brain. God gave it to you for a reason.
     
  4. Shhhocker

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    I think he was asking if the actual keyword had to be in the content of the site, not the URL. As for putting the keyword in the actual content, I would say it's more than advantageous. I mean, hypothetically speaking, could you not wiggle the keyword in somewhere or another, especially if the site legitimately pertains to said keyword.

    When you do a search, perhaps the top results don't have the keyword in the URL, but you can bet you'll see it in the content synopsis below. That's how I'd look at it. I'm pretty new to this, as well, but I'm pretty sure it's a big part of on-site SEO. Hope that helped a little.
     
  5. ivictus

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    Sure it could be done, but.... way harder. If it is some random phrase or gibberish combo of characters you can rank easily. If there is competition it will be very hard requiring high PR subject related back links.
     
  6. tonyy

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    Dude calm down onsite SEO isnt that important, 95% depends of backlinks you can find loats of crappy websites in internet with hundreds and hundreds of profiles/blog comments as backliniks targeting to competititve keywords.

    Google use the onsite seo to find the theme of your website if he can't find it trough the anchor text of your backlinks, so if you rlly can't do proper onsite seo don't do it.
     
  7. eniviD

    eniviD Junior Member

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    Hi Jubu,
    It's definitely very important to have the keywords in your content.
    However,it's not impossible to rank for keywords without having them on your site.
    I can imagine though that it would be extremely difficult.
     
  8. jubu211

    jubu211 Newbie

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    Thanks for the great help. I'm going to go with it's not a must have but it helps a lot.
     
  9. DigitalDesigns

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    thats interesting
     
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    tradermac Newbie

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    This is absolutely crazy, I don't know how the experts will explain this!
    I found a domain for a product and registered it.
    I put on a WP blog called myblog intending to go back and work on it later but never did.
    So, I have this domain which is just the keyword with an empty blog called myblog with just "hello world" as a post, you know the usual, and the comment "this is a comment"
    I have done NOTHING else and guess what I am #3 on page 1 of Google for my keyword. The anchor text is "Myblog, just another wordpress blog."
    I do not know how to explain this other than to say I must be positioned here purely on the domain name. (Obviously very important)
    So, where does all this SEO business come into this? There is no content to speak of, no keywords, no backlinks or any other kind of link.
    I have now changed my theme, and added a post with the keyword in the title and in the body, now I'll just wait and see if big G puts me at #1 or what! :D
     
  11. wunzzz

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    ... On-site is very important. That is the first thing that should be put to action.. Then comes the backlinking, anchor, etc.
     
  12. Shaw33

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    You need on and off page SEO and you need key words in both places. I have played with Key word density rules and found certain formulas that work better than others, but in the end..........YES you need key words on your page and they should be presented in a very "natural" looking way!
     
  13. ulijonroth

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    WOW!

    I mean WOW!

    Can you show a real proof on that? Without proper onsite SEO you will get NOTHING!

    If that was the way as you told then I could simply turn on an auto-blog, get it auto approved for comments, put the weirdest theme and blasted the hell out of SB and Xrumer!

    But that is NOT!

    Your method gets you up for a decent amount of time and as the time passes you get back here and start a thread like "F**k Google, my site has disappeared!"

    With good on site SEO you will get the rankings slower but you will be sure to stay on the top as you get there!

    How the hell I know?
    Just follow this search;
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    http://goo.gl/thidb
    You will see 2 pages with the exact search term.org and a site starying with bilya........com

    They got the places in 7 months but have been there for many years!
    I can give you many more examples on that!
     
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    tradermac Newbie

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    OK Google did it! I am now at #1 on Page 1 for my kw out of nearly 3000 results.
    So now I will add some more content, give it a month or so then monetize the site.
    I think I will also put a counter on to see how many visitors I actually get.
     
  15. flibbertigibbet

    flibbertigibbet Regular Member

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    Why do people who know nothing about SEO give answers like they know what the heck they're talking about? it's really annoying.