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Do long tail KW"s include shorter KW"s?

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  1. Keyboarding

    Keyboarding Regular Member

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    Title but I'll repeat:

    Do long tail keywords also include shorter key words?
    Okay, easiest way to illustrate my question is this:

    Let's say my long tail keyword is "fastest ways to make the best chocolate chip cookies"

    Which is really long,

    would "best chocolate chip cookies"

    be included in "fastest ... cookies" as in it is all one keyword, or would it be able to be both?

    SO if I searched for "best chocolate chip cookies"
    would that long tail keyword also pick up the search?

    ALSO, edited to add:

    What about keywords separated by conjunctions or phrasing within a sentence, example

    "best chocolate chip cookie review"

    We showcase the best chocolate chip cookie and it's review.


    Does that still count?
     
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  2. gullsinn

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    Simple and straight answers is yes, they will be included.
     
  3. nempular

    nempular Newbie

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    Yes they include and what you have mentioned is a combination of multiple longtails.
     
  4. Keyboarding

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    So would it make sense to include these three keywords in a page and use them as if they were unique........ This is hard for me to word into a question. I don't want to over optimize right, so would I count those all as "one" keyword and use it as such? Meaning if I want to keep the keyword ratio to 1% in a 1k text only use either of those three no more than ten times. Or just avoid using ONE of the three more than ten, counting up to a total of 30 times I used the keywords.

    "fastest ways to make the best chocolate chip cookies"
    "best chocolate chip cookies"
    "chocolate chip cookies review"

    hope that makes sense and I'm not appearing to overthink it.
     
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    :1: The answer is yes, the long tail will also strengthen ur presence on the exact match
     
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    I'll try to make it easy on you, in those examples here is your keyword count:

    "fastest ways to make the best chocolate chip cookies" = 1
    "best chocolate chip cookies" = 1
    "chocolate chip cookies review" = 1
    "chocolate chip cookies" = 3
    "chocolate chip" = 3
    "best chocolate chip" = 1


    Of course there is more keywords here but hopefully this makes sense to show you how it works.
     
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  7. Keyboarding

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    Yeah that summed it up nicely.

    Take my thanks
     
  8. 49webstreet

    49webstreet Newbie

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    yes long tail keywords may contain the shorter keywords. Its solely depend upon your page need, on which page which type of keyword you are gong to use.49 webstreet a good company for the seo services in chandigarh.