1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

do I need a VPS?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by ripperel, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hello BHW friends!

    I have a mobile app which works on both Android & iOS. Got around 150.000 downloads on both platforms and so far it's doing pretty well. I recently hired a dev to make some improvements, among those Google Analytics. My app is sharing text data with the users, and obviously I have a server side. At the moment I am using a cheap (yet very robust) hosting service - goes around 2 EUR / month. I have about 40.000 active users (the ones that kept the app), around 5000-8000 daily users (number provided by Google Analytics) and the peak of online users at one time is around 350. So far, I haven't received any complaints about the app functionality and I test it daily, however as it (slowly) grows, I am thinking about getting a VPS for it. I can't determine however when that time will come based on this numbers. Can anyone help?


    Thanks!
     
  2. nocare

    nocare Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2013
    Messages:
    164
    Likes Received:
    81
    Location:
    Deep Code
    Well, how are you currently hosted and what is your server load looking at on average and during peak?
    There are different reasons and ways to scale a service.
     
  3. skyflash

    skyflash Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2014
    Messages:
    253
    Likes Received:
    34
    knownhost VPS is one if the best hosting provider which I know with a well experienced technical staff and they have a good reputation too.
     
  4. berkay1907

    berkay1907 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,127
    Likes Received:
    622
    Powerup hostings VPS servers are good too in my opinion starts from 15 dollars.
     
  5. roadhamster

    roadhamster Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    244
    OP, as long as your site doesn't get limited or disabled by your provider, why should you buy a vps. On the other hand: when they do because you're using to many resources, you're screwed. If I where you (and I'm not) I would take matters in my own hands, especially when it's your moneymaker, to switch to vps.
     
  6. V

    V Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,294
    Likes Received:
    2,590
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    /tmp
    OP I think you should move to a VPS with 5k-8k daily visitors. Shared hosting is good for about 2k daily visitors (not a hard and fast rule). You'll notice the difference by moving to a VPS :)

    Poweruphosting VPSs are good and they have an offer going on which you can look here
    Code:
    [URL="http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/web-hosting/797066-get-cheap-hosting-poweruphosting.html"]www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/web-hosting/797066-get-cheap-hosting-poweruphosting.html[/URL]
     
  7. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    First of all I want to thank everybody but regarding the direct recommandations which more or less hide a refferal, I will be thinking about this later.

    nocare - your question is a very good one, but except the numbers I get from Google Play, App Annie or Google Analytics, I really can't see the server load I generate on my shared hosting. I have tried with various scripts but I`m not a PHP guru, therefore total failure. :)
    However, another interesting amount would be the bandwidth - 130+ GB traffic per month. :) And consider that the DB is around just 5 MB (on average).

    roadhamster - I used to think that way to. But on the other hand, as this is bringing my money, I would like to take care of my "golden egg". On the other hand, the hosting provider moved me because of the "server resources" needed, yet they didn't limit me in any way.

    So I'll throw another question out here: is there a way for me to check the server load on my shared hosting? (maybe a PHP script that doesn't need special permissions)


    All the best!
     
  8. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    33,651
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Fun Lovin' Criminal
    Location:
    London
    Home Page:
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  9. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Those articles were very useful! However I am thinking that a coder/dev/programmer is able to monitor the app resource use and therefor determine if an upgrade to a VPS is neccessary or not, or even predict when it will be needed. So, still searching for a solution in that way....
     
  10. mantic0re

    mantic0re Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    9
    I would not for the life of me host an application on a VPS that has 8k users per day. You can get a dedicated machine as cheap as 40$ a month. It's not just about the load, it's also about the fact that you have much smaller chance for downtime as well as the fact that you can fully configure the machine according to your needs.
     
  11. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    mantic0re - my app doesn't have "special" needs so to say. The scrapers are very small, and basically the whole system works with plain text, and nothing more. Regarding your suggestion, from my point of view a dedicated machine would be useless as I would use maybe around 10% of it, or even less. At least now, with my current numbers. At some point, I might reach that upgrade, of course, but firstly I will pass through a VPS I think.
     
  12. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    12,463
    Likes Received:
    11,167
    Occupation:
    CHEAP
    Location:
    DATASETS
    Home Page:
    You're paying 2 EUR to host 40k users? You're a genius! That's the best ROI I've ever seen ;)
     
  13. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Many thanks bartosimpsonio! :D

    Yes, actually that would be the situation, yet on a daily basis I have around 5-8k users. So from those 40k, just 5k-8k use the app daily.
     
  14. bermanHost

    bermanHost Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2014
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    40
    As of now there is no need for switching to VPS since the is no issue at present. If you face load issue in future you tweak your server configuration accordingly and even if you want more performance then you can move for VPS.
     
  15. nnahlee

    nnahlee BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    902
    Likes Received:
    219
    don't need to change anything if it is working for you. If you see any issues upgrade to vps for sure.
     
  16. ripperel

    ripperel Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ok guys, thanks for your replies. I was thinking the same. In fact I got in contact with their tech department and told them to monitor my activity on their server and let me know when things get... ugly. :)

    If the $ will be enough I might even go straight for dedicated. I'll see. Once again, thanks for your feerback!
     
  17. YandaY

    YandaY Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2016
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    You may try Offshore seo vps and they have cheap hosting plan.
     
  18. loedown

    loedown Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    504
    Home Page:
    Nice 4 month bump.
     
  19. Bahmer

    Bahmer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2015
    Messages:
    261
    Likes Received:
    60
    I know this is an older thread, but you could even try running this sort of setup on a 3x cluster of Pi3's.
     
  20. bermanHost

    bermanHost Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2014
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    40
    You should go for VPS with decent specification like 2GB Ram, 2-CPU etc.