Dispute against @brownsofts

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I asked for GMB verification method a few days ago.
He sent me a message and we talked on telegram.
I asked him if he have a method that can verify any listing, and he said yes.
I payed him 800$
He sent me his method, I tried it few times but it’s not working.
I even showed step by step and he said everything is good.
He now refuses to give me back my money, after he sold me a method that is not workingIMG_0134.jpegIMG_0082.jpegIMG_0081.jpegIMG_0085.jpegIMG_0086.jpegIMG_0122.jpegIMG_0137.jpegIMG_0140.jpeg
 
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I am sorry for delay in getting back to you, I just saw the thread after the mod tagging me,

He Just asked us the method that we are working on and we have shared those, We have also split the payment into 2, Total he agreed was $800, After sending the first part he have checked that and asked the 2nd step and paid remaining $400, After getting everything we understand that he have checked and failed himself in Google Map verified listing,

But we have sold our method as per his request, How it will be fair asking refund after giving our method as per his request?

What he need is to study Google map listing, but he was not interested to come on our anydesk or to give his any desk to check.

How can we train more on that if he is not ready to do this?

we sold our method, as per his request, At this movement. I have to follow the instruction of BHW, I have also Sent DM to you about our whole chat and the tutorial which we have given to him
 

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I really can’t understand his response.
I asked for a method, he sold me his method and it didn’t work.
So i can also make up some methods that doesn’t even work and sell it to people.
He suppose to show me that his method works.
I told him to show me he can verify listings with his method live, but he doesn’t want to.
I really tried to solve this problem with him, but I really can’t understand his answers anymore I’m sorry.
 
raz222 said:
I really can’t understand his response.
I asked for a method, he sold me his method and it didn’t work.
So i can also make up some methods that doesn’t even work and sell it to people.
He suppose to show me that his method works.
I told him to show me he can verify listings with his method live, but he doesn’t want to.
I really tried to solve this problem with him, but I really can’t understand his answers anymore I’m sorry.
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I already have live listings to show. And what he asked is my method, I am not a professional tutorial seller. but he asked me my method and I have shared it with him
 
brownsofts said:
I already have live listings to show. And what he asked is my method, I am not a professional tutorial seller. but he asked me my method and I have shared it with him
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So what if you already have live listings?
I can buy also live listings and then tell people that I have a method, and sell them some word file with a process I made up.
What does it say if you have live listings?
Many people have live listings and they don’t have a method.
If you sold me a method, you should teach me how to do it.
And the fact that I told you to show me live that you can verify a listing and you told me you don’t want to, just prove that your method doesn’t even work.
Anyway, I really tried to solve it on telegram and we had no solution.
So I will just wait for the mod to decide what to do
 
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raz222 said:
So what if you already have live listings?
I can buy also live listings and then tell people that I have a method, and sell them some word file with a process I made up.
What does it say if you have live listings?
Many people have live listings and they don’t have a method.
If you sold me a method, you should teach me how to do it.
And the fact that I told you to show me live that you can verify a listing and you told me you don’t want to, just prove that your method doesn’t even work.
Anyway, I really tried to solve it on telegram and we had no solution.
So I will just wait for the mod to decide what to do
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Again I am not a professional tutorial seller, You have asked my method and I have given my method to you. Even you have splitted the payment, After you are satisfied with first part of my method you paid me the second part.

About method working, You have tried to open chat on google, but chat option not shown for you,

As per your opinion there is no chat on google if it dosent open for you, You are not even ready to share anydesk to help you, You are not interested to come to our any desk, How can we help you in that situation?
 
I have given you my method, And the deal is over. Is what I know. If I dont give you my method then you can accuse me.

You can also accuse me if I am selling a non working method, but You have asked my method, And I have given it to you, And you dont need any more support from me.


What you have want is

1. First you wanted my method so you paid $400, After you satisfied with first part you have brought the second part

2. Now you have my method. And you need the refund too.

Here the "My Method" Means the way Which I post GBP for me, Not a professional tutorial.
 
brownsofts said:
I have given you my method, And the deal is over. Is what I know. If I dont give you my method then you can accuse me.

You can also accuse me if I am selling a non working method, but You have asked my method, And I have given it to you, And you dont need any more support from me.


What you have want is

1. First you wanted my method so you paid $400, After you satisfied with first part you have brought the second part

2. Now you have my method. And you need the refund too.

Here the "My Method" Means the way Which I post GBP for me, Not a professional tutorial.
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This answers are so stupid I’m sorry, I really don’t know how to answer for this anymore.
BassTrackerBoats said:
Yes you are as you took money for a tutorial.
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thank you!
So what can we do in this situation?
We have no solution here, same answers over a week already on telegram
 
raz222 said:
This answers are so stupid I’m sorry, I really don’t know how to answer for this anymore.

thank you!
So what can we do in this situation?
We have no solution here, same answers over a week already on telegram
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I have already given you my method.
BassTrackerBoats said:
Yes you are as you took money for a tutorial.
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We have already given him my method, And we can do any more help that he needs related to my method.
 
brownsofts said:
I have already given you my method.

We have already given him my method, And we can do any more help that he needs related to my method.
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But your method doesn’t work.
When you sell a method, there is a very special and important part: IT SHOULD WORK.
I told you already to show me it works live, but you didn’t want to.
Is there any other option?
 
@BassTrackerBoats so i think it’s not going anywhere here, just waiting for your thoughts and decision
 
raz222 said:
But your method doesn’t work.
When you sell a method, there is a very special and important part: IT SHOULD WORK.
I told you already to show me it works live, but you didn’t want to.
Is there any other option?
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I am always ready to show you that we are doing GMP, But all the time you have asked that you need it in an hour, And I have told you that we are not magicians to do anything in an Hour,

And I have sent you the listing method that worked,
 
brownsofts said:
I am always ready to show you that we are doing GMP, But all the time you have asked that you need it in an hour, And I have told you that we are not magicians to do anything in an Hour,

And I have sent you the listing method that worked,
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Yeah yeah enough with that.
You told me you can do at least 4 listings a day, and suddenly you need a week, a month.
I don’t need you to show me your GMB
I meed you to show me the method I bought
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
You are going to have to do that.
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He wants to give me listings instead of the method, that is what he offered on telegram.
But I already told him, I payed for method and not for listings.
his method doesn’t really work, he sold me useless method
 
raz222 said:
So i need you to show me on live that you can verify GMB listing
And teach me how to do it also
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Everything is on the Tutorial Given to you, About How I am doing GBP listing, let me know what more instructions you need apart from that. Please DM me about that and I will reply there, And we can do all further communications inside BHW, I am not interested to communicate with you on telegram any more, because of your accusations, even after sharing the method which I have used for my living.
 
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