Different distributors with different accounts when Spotify botting?

mainfield01 said:

and Spotify?

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trickdaddy442, my system is similar to your system and I would like to talk to you but I'm a new member and I can't PM.
If you'd like to contact me to share some thought about the shadow ban.
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ztztztztztztztztztz said:

As a final notice from us: Spotify has started to shadow-ban artists. Since Streaming Month of February, they set the payout per stream to zero if they recognize streaming fraud. It happened to multiple artists across different uploaders (Distrokid / RecordJet) where we see all the expected streams but zero payout. We own the streaming accounts, therefore it's clear that money should have arrived.
Good luck to the others, we are out. Spotify won.

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trickdaddy442 said:

I'm copying something I wrote on another thread. I hope it helps some of you here.

I have been botting on Spotify for several years now. Take downs are common. My best advice is as follows:

1. You need hundreds of songs. You really can't have too many. Always have a reserve of songs ready to go when your take down will inevitably occur.
1b. Make sure the songs are average or better. Garbage songs, short songs, noise, fake MIDI songs won't get past most of these distributors.
2. You need multiple distributor accounts. These can be a mix of multiple accounts at the same distributor or one account at each of several distributors. Or a mix of the two. Don't put too many songs under each account. Try to keep them to 1-2 albums or 10-20 songs per account. This helps you stay under their radar.
3. The distributors that take a cut of your royalties, usually 10-20%, are often more lenient and will look the other way. But not always.

Take downs will happen. I've gone through several. Try and learn from each one. See what you changed or what got caught. Sometimes there is nothing to learn. You just got caught. Move on. Add more songs and keep going with a new account.

I've had success with these distributors. I've also had accounts blocked/taken down by these same distributors. Don't put all your eggs in the same basket!!!

Distrokid.com - They are the biggest. I have many accounts with them. The recent takedown wave in January only hit 2 of my accounts. I probably wouldn't create any new accounts there for a while to make sure they have moved on to bigger fish. And make sure they pay me my royalties on my accounts with tracks taken down. UPDATE: Avoid Distrokid for now. They are super strict on botting and quality of songs.

Soundrop.com - These guys take a 15% cut of your royalties. Their support is awful. So if you don't know what you are doing, your release may never go live. Once you have a release live, they are pretty hands off. Royalties are always paid on time. My blocked accounts were not paid any royalties.

Traxx.space - This is a smaller distributor. They keep 10% of your royalties. They have a pretty strict anti fraud policy but I haven't had any issues with getting paid. I had several accounts worth of songs get removed from Spotify but never a peep out of the anti fraud team. Royalties still were paid.

Onerpm.com - This place takes a 15% cut. Their quality control seems to be a little stricter than others. Any really bad stuff will likely get flagged before going live. I've had one of my accounts blocked here and I didn't get paid my royalties. But another blocked account did pay me my royalties. I'm not sure why.

PM me with any more questions.

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trickdaddy442 said:

I'm copying something I wrote on another thread. I hope it helps some of you here.

I have been botting on Spotify for several years now. Take downs are common. My best advice is as follows:

1. You need hundreds of songs. You really can't have too many. Always have a reserve of songs ready to go when your take down will inevitably occur.
1b. Make sure the songs are average or better. Garbage songs, short songs, noise, fake MIDI songs won't get past most of these distributors.
2. You need multiple distributor accounts. These can be a mix of multiple accounts at the same distributor or one account at each of several distributors. Or a mix of the two. Don't put too many songs under each account. Try to keep them to 1-2 albums or 10-20 songs per account. This helps you stay under their radar.
3. The distributors that take a cut of your royalties, usually 10-20%, are often more lenient and will look the other way. But not always.

Take downs will happen. I've gone through several. Try and learn from each one. See what you changed or what got caught. Sometimes there is nothing to learn. You just got caught. Move on. Add more songs and keep going with a new account.

I've had success with these distributors. I've also had accounts blocked/taken down by these same distributors. Don't put all your eggs in the same basket!!!

Distrokid.com - They are the biggest. I have many accounts with them. The recent takedown wave in January only hit 2 of my accounts. I probably wouldn't create any new accounts there for a while to make sure they have moved on to bigger fish. And make sure they pay me my royalties on my accounts with tracks taken down. UPDATE: Avoid Distrokid for now. They are super strict on botting and quality of songs.

Soundrop.com - These guys take a 15% cut of your royalties. Their support is awful. So if you don't know what you are doing, your release may never go live. Once you have a release live, they are pretty hands off. Royalties are always paid on time. My blocked accounts were not paid any royalties.

Traxx.space - This is a smaller distributor. They keep 10% of your royalties. They have a pretty strict anti fraud policy but I haven't had any issues with getting paid. I had several accounts worth of songs get removed from Spotify but never a peep out of the anti fraud team. Royalties still were paid.

Onerpm.com - This place takes a 15% cut. Their quality control seems to be a little stricter than others. Any really bad stuff will likely get flagged before going live. I've had one of my accounts blocked here and I didn't get paid my royalties. But another blocked account did pay me my royalties. I'm not sure why.

PM me with any more questions.

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bolshakova said:

Building on the concept of spreading songs across multiple distributors, I've found that using a combination of Distrokid, CD Baby, and Tunecore can be effective, but it's crucial to keep the number of songs per account low, around 5-10, to avoid raising flags. I've also noticed that having a diverse portfolio of genres can help with believability, with a focus on niche genres like lo-fi hip hop or ambient electronic. Regarding the use of bots and proxies, I've tested using residential proxies with a rotation period of 30 minutes, which has helped to reduce the risk of detection. Additionally, using a VPS with a premium account can provide an extra layer of anonymity, but it's essential to ensure that the VPS is not linked to any other accounts or activities that could be considered suspicious.

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GUACAMOLEMAN said:

Same question, I really wonder about all this payout method stuff, and also, how do people even get spotify premium accounts in the first place?
Cause like at the end of the day, people use fake accounts, but if you want legit payed accounts then at the end of the day you need to enter your own information. Using services like privacy.com and other websites are cool but it's still directly traceable right back to you.

I can tell that people don't care about this when it comes to stream farming, but still, shouldn't privacy matter?

(PS if anyone has a good bot they can send my way lmk here, am not yet past newbie status)​

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