Did you read any books?

open and closed forums are the best way to this specificion job :)
I don't hear about any book, and I don't belive, that are woths two cents, google change algoritm fast...but we mass be faster :)
 
I do a little bit of both, with ebooks you have to be careful because they try to sell you at every page to buy something else...lol.

Ebooks are good if you have a limited time and want to learn something like pinging or rss feeds ect. Forums are good because you can network and meet new people, also see what really works and what doesn't. Way less hype!
 
I like forums best myself. Ebooks are tough to sift through and are often outdated. With forums you can at least stay semi-current
 
Like Dave said often the books are trying to sell you. You always have to back engineer who their partners are and what their real agenda is. Guess the double speak is true in main stream forums, like saying link exchanging is dead lol.
 
This is just my suggestion. But yeah books/forums/chats/networking is all beneficial. Reading books would be the first choice because you would at least have an idea of what your talking about. If someone would ask me how do i use a computer, that tells me that this individual doesnt have any idea of what he/she is doing nor doesnt take the initiative to learn on their own. But if someone were to ask me how can they fix their printing network problem. That they've done everything you would do in troubleshooting such a problem then that tells me that this person at least knows the basics of what their asking and motivates me to try and help them further. So learning from one source isnt such a good idea. My personal training came from hundreds of different places. From schools/books/chats/forums/networking. And i've yet to finish because this industry is so vast its a never ending engine.
 
mike330 said:
I heard Aaron Wall's SEO Book is pretty good.

Mike

I found it rather boring personally but it would be a good starting point for someone who is newer to SEO.

A book I would recommend is The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It. This book will get you thinking in the right frame of mind when it comes to finding ways to replicate yourself without having to do extra work. The great thing about blackhat is that you have the ability to use the power of scripting to eachive your goals.

There is a book for black hat SEO called "Project Black Hat". A good book to get you started.

Then once you start making money I would recommend how to setup a corporation (like LLC). This will allow you to split your revenue into companies so if you get burned by adsense or another source you wont loose all your money. I would recomend setting up an LLC for every 10,000 you get monthly.
 
Word of Mouth Marketing (not about seo but about getting viral traffic)
think and grow rich (financial book, good for money management)
 
I agree "Project Black Hat". Is pretty book to start, but no substitution for getting ideas and tips from others in the forums.
And or course experiment, experiment, experiment.
 
I'm no expert, but a couple of books that people all over the net keep recommending (and I join them with my little $.02) are:

The World is Flat - Thomas Friedman

It's a much more in depth and nerdy version of 4 hour work week. Which, fwiw, is basically a crap burrito. A thin wrapper of marketing surrounding a thick, chewy center of indigestion causing glop. It's VERY much like most of the ebooks out there today: useless but emotionally engaging. It's the diet coke of advice, just one good idea: outsourcing. Which Friedman covers in a LOT more detail. If you buy it, get it from Barnes and Noble 'cuz they'll let you return it if you don't like it.

The Science of Getting Rich - Wallace Wattles

You can download in .pdf format for free:

scienceofgettingrich dot net slash index dot html

not an affiliate link.:)

It's sort of "Think and Grow Rich, Motherf%^ker!"

It's a really shortened, "Shut up and start visualizing" tour de force. I recommend reading both. Think and Grow Rich is available online for free also, but atm I can't remember where from. If you can't find it PM me and I'll try to dig up a link.

Not strictly SEO/blackhat related, but it'll teach you a lot about how to think about the learning curve.

Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it.
-Henry Ford

Hope that helps.

-scuba
 
I have read white hat seo ebooks, etc and they are mostly OK... nothing earth shattering. I do listen to lots of marketing audio books (seth godin, etc) when I'm driving and find they're pretty cool for coming up with new ideas, sites, schemes.
 
The so-called "Rich Jerk" books discuss Black Hat techniques in an approving way, but he never really teaches you anything. He mostly just links you to his affiliates selling services and software.
 
Revenge of the mininet - Great SEO books for free
Project Black Mask also a good one, you just have to add your own creativity to combine and improve the tricks in the book.
 
I think Seth Godin's meatball sundae would be a good deal for all of you here. He is the highly ranked blogger on most ranking engines and has received several awards. his writing stimulates creativity, clarity and lots of ideas. He writes awesome and inspiring!
 
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