Did I waste my time learning python?

Bonvi said:

OOP is not too difficult as a concept but when you actually try to implement it. Oof.

Not sure if frontend is better than backend though. I have people in both camps swear to their side and strongly advise against the other.

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Try to make bots and join tables from frontend.

It's not about what's better.

Backend frameworks are stupid simple to understand compared to frontend.

That's what I meant.

Bonvi said:

Ahhh right. Should have been able to guess that haha. But not on the forum that much. Thank you

That sounds good. All I strive for is not starving without having to pick up a job locally. All I dream of. Will keep studying then. You guys restored my confidence in picking this path again, when I first opened the thread I thought I wasted months getting into python when I should have done javascript.

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Thats nice, you really didnt waste any time, my first language was Ruby, next i learnt html, css, js(basics and jquery) by 2016, i started python and django, and i have been doing that since, i only write js (node) occasionally for simple projects, but in a team, i only write python

Django has this headline on their website saying "The web framework for perfectionists with deadlines."

They automatically get some of the admin panel ready and frontend too.

Crazy fast at wrtitetime.

I consider it one of the smartest choices for freelancing. Next to it would be node.js. PHP is 3rd on my list.

And Python is better suited for machine learning so far.

Good tips

Compare to JavaScript python is very easy to learn that's why lots of people prefer python. But once you know fully about python all other languages are similar only syntax are going to be different so learning other things are easy

Bonvi said:

For a while now I was slowly learning python more and more, but I think I might have been given false advice and I should have gone with javascript if I want to get into web development as a freelancer.

What do you think? Been on it for like 6 months now, kinda learned the basics and just start to look into django etc, but I am not sure if that is really that useful because now that I am more and more involved with this coding stuff, I see JS React pop up everywhere and I am not sure if I should just switch over.

My goal is just to pick up some projects on upwork once I am proficient enough. Don't want to land a corporate job, even if that pays better.

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Python is the GOAT language. Crazy good for scripts and even apps.

For web development though gotta hand it to JS/ REACT

SirLouen said:

It depends on what you want to accomplish. But Javascript is more versatile than Python. You can basically do everything with Javascript. Although the amount of libraries for certain things like AI or data processing is incredibly remarkable. I would rather choose to know and use JS and Python than just one. Nowadays, just one language is insufficient unless you are in a super-specific job and you don't want to move from there ever.

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This is your answer OP. Programming isn't a course, it's a lifetime skill!

I would say Python and Javascript are the minimum nowdays for anyone who wants to be a programmer

spectrejoe said:

Python is the GOAT language. Crazy good for scripts and even apps.

For web development though gotta hand it to JS/ REACT

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what kind of a web app is react accurate for?

Did I waste my time learning python?​

- YES

The markets a nightmare mate, personally I would find something that needs automating and make the app yourself. Then create an API and sell that.

ATuringtest said:

The markets a nightmare mate, personally I would find something that needs automating and make the app yourself. Then create an API and sell that.

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smart

but you need to find a white hat thing for that

black hat can be done only for yourself, but you can get quicker results; and you will need to either reverse engineer unofficial api or write automation in technologies such as puppeteer / playwright

with black hat cards (remember to wear a physical black hat to improve black hat morale), you can do $1k * 365 - 700 (average lifespans of well-thought black hat methods)

example of how to wear a black hat by Zwielicht (admin)

Hey man. Sometimes the brain starts to make excuses out of nowhere when you're even a bit unsure of the path you've decided to take. If you're already 6 months in (and you were consistent, programming every day) it's likely that you had good reasons to take that path and it's the best for you.

You can make money with python. Simple as that. Language is not the issue here. If you want to make money online, you have to be creative, think a bit outside the box, and always try things for yourself before coming into the forum to ask. Why? Because some people will encourage you, and some others will lead you astray. Which one do you think will be more comfortable for your brain to pick? To quit or to keep going?

Have some confidence in yourself, and make it work. You can make it work if you put your mind to it.

Also, stay up to date with AI tech. Not sure what the state of it is right now, but python programmers were using gpt 4 with good success ratio for their operations. It seems that after gpt 4 turbo update coders started to complain that it wasn't that useful anymore. But it's gonna be a must for programmers soon, so don't fall behind.

Good thing is that as you learn one programming language is relatively easy learn another one. But generally for web environment is probably better Javascript and PHP.

borodasumeetara said:

Good thing is that as you learn one programming language is relatively easy learn another one. But generally for web environment is probably better Javascript and PHP.

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try to learn c++ as a python enthusiast
or smart contracts
or blockchain

nothing is easier thanks to one language, maybe syntax, but each language introduces 100's of new concepts and ideas and opinions; even type of framework!

even javascript is much different from python - it's mostly made to interact with internet interfaces
and that React bullshit - it will take months to understand this wacky crap - probably Zuckerburg himself paid Dan Abramov to promote it!
it's so useless because all it does is frontend and frontend should be effortless
it makes frontend tough as fuck



these names - "portals" - is this kindergarten yet
the whole react community has agreed that classes aren't necessary and they use functions only instead
but they could do classes

react is like they put 1000 fancy names for things that are already in other coding libs and frameworks but nobody realizes what they originally were because someone wanted to confuse everyone around

it's like learning how to walk again even though you know but you haven't realized what you're learning is walking! but guess what, now you're doing it upside down

angular is another thing... still hard but better

the only popular language that is like python, I can think of, is Ruby

I once tried to write a WPF app in c# with this assumption that since I know other programming languges, next one won't require much effort.
Wrong, it was one of the hardest things I had ever done in terms of programming cause of thinking I'm good as I know a couple of dynamically typed languges. I'm not using C# again.

I would like to add, that I did kind a use a black hat method.. @reaaski lol (Not saying what of course)
But Upwork is a great place to find ideas to make your own API's and apps

Learning Python can help you stand out from other candidates and land a job with a higher salary and better job prospects. Here are some examples of job roles that require Python knowledge: Data Scientist: Python is a popular language for data science and analysis.

ATuringtest said:

I would like to add, that I did kind a use a black hat method.. @reaaski lol (Not saying what of course)
But Upwork is a great place to find ideas to make your own API's and apps

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Exactly. There's a ton of methods to find niches. The trick is to stay in business, even when it's dark and lonely.

I tell you what.

I opened a c++ gui project first time ever.

First word - and I don't understand stuff even with Google.



ATOM - I know it's a type, but hell, there's like 20 possible meanings just for this one!!!

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10525511/what-is-the-atom-data-type
Don't tell me to use Electron. I just downloaded a canva clone that is written in Electron. Guess what... they just wrapped their website in that. As always.

Looking forward to run 1000 threads app by next monday using this.

You should aim to solve problems, language or technology is irrelevant.

Also, if you do decide to learn JS, learn JS first, then React, don't make the mistake I made.

Would JS React do the same things as Python?
My agency does lead generation for clients (among other things), would you recommend JS React for scraping instead of Python?