Nirmal
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- May 11, 2013
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mate, this guy had started contract two years ago. (not a month ago) Obviously no one can forecast that he can be homeless because of business failure after 2 years.
Depressed, How do i make money?
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phpbuilt
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I know what its like to be homeless, and nearly out of food.
Last thing you care about in that circumstance are making your contract payments and setting up a fundraiser for a charity school so those poor kids can make it through their final 2 months. That is about the farthest thing from a normal response as you could imagine.
One second, let me put myself into the mindset of the protagonist here. One moment, meditating. Uuuuuuuum. Uuuuuuum. Ok.
I just lost my girlfriend. I just lost my home. I'm living in the 3rd most expensive country in the world. I have nothing to fall back on except sympathy from people on a forum who don't know me. I don't know anyone around me. Ok, I get it ... I'm in that mindset now. Supposedly its "cold" outside (hard for me to envision that because every time I fly into Singapore its soooo hot, but ok, I've imagined myself cold in Singapore ... see I got goosebumps now?).
School rent is 6 grand a month. 2 months, that's 12 grand. I only need $2200 more, so I guess that means I have access to $9800 somehow. Now do I ...
1) Spend all my spare time trying to raise funds to let these poor autistic children continue to go to school for free, completely forgetting my own personal need of not starving to death and being homeless in a country where I don't know anyone?
or
2) Let the school keep the furniture, take the $9800 remaining and get the hell out of there. Get a ticket to a cheap country. Regroup myself, find a new gig at leisure.
It all sounds like BS to me. Nobody cares about their credit when they're homeless, no food money, they know nobody and in a foreign land. Its not a normal response under those circumstances to start running fundraisers and charity work when you're crashing and burning in your personal life.
Sorry, not buying it.
Last thing you care about in that circumstance are making your contract payments and setting up a fundraiser for a charity school so those poor kids can make it through their final 2 months. That is about the farthest thing from a normal response as you could imagine.
One second, let me put myself into the mindset of the protagonist here. One moment, meditating. Uuuuuuuum. Uuuuuuum. Ok.
I just lost my girlfriend. I just lost my home. I'm living in the 3rd most expensive country in the world. I have nothing to fall back on except sympathy from people on a forum who don't know me. I don't know anyone around me. Ok, I get it ... I'm in that mindset now. Supposedly its "cold" outside (hard for me to envision that because every time I fly into Singapore its soooo hot, but ok, I've imagined myself cold in Singapore ... see I got goosebumps now?).
School rent is 6 grand a month. 2 months, that's 12 grand. I only need $2200 more, so I guess that means I have access to $9800 somehow. Now do I ...
1) Spend all my spare time trying to raise funds to let these poor autistic children continue to go to school for free, completely forgetting my own personal need of not starving to death and being homeless in a country where I don't know anyone?
or
2) Let the school keep the furniture, take the $9800 remaining and get the hell out of there. Get a ticket to a cheap country. Regroup myself, find a new gig at leisure.
It all sounds like BS to me. Nobody cares about their credit when they're homeless, no food money, they know nobody and in a foreign land. Its not a normal response under those circumstances to start running fundraisers and charity work when you're crashing and burning in your personal life.
Sorry, not buying it.
ebraheeemz
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- Oct 13, 2013
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thank you too
i was read this thread in BHW,
(i can't post links, so search on this forum for this thread, just write in the search box
[h=2]"Expressvisits.com- Premium Traffic Provider- Get your Google Organic Traffic instantly! "[/h]its the first result
you can invest 15$ and have 1000 visitors to any website, you can make some fast money with this, but i didn't test it, and i don't know how to earn with it, but the persons who commented on the thread say its good investment, but when i have the money sure i will spent 15$ to try it,
and you can ask on this forum how to use this
i hope this will help you
take care of your self
i was read this thread in BHW,
(i can't post links, so search on this forum for this thread, just write in the search box
[h=2]"Expressvisits.com- Premium Traffic Provider- Get your Google Organic Traffic instantly! "[/h]its the first result
you can invest 15$ and have 1000 visitors to any website, you can make some fast money with this, but i didn't test it, and i don't know how to earn with it, but the persons who commented on the thread say its good investment, but when i have the money sure i will spent 15$ to try it,
and you can ask on this forum how to use this
i hope this will help you
take care of your self
Hi phpbuilt 
Thanks - yes, i like you. I like you for trying to put yourself in my shoes.
Just to share with you; yes, its 6 grand a month, for two months, and i only requested for $2200 in that fundraiser website.
Here's something i have considered - and done but not told everyone - i have divided the amount into 6 fundraiser sites; not just 1.
Why?
1. When people look at the divided amount, its less scary and more attainable than a bigger amount ($2200? ok, we'll get there. 12000? Wow, not gonna get there, better move on). So, if you'd like to see the other fundraising sites where i have listed to try raise money, please let me know. Just in case, if you think i've just created them, you should check out the "Start Date" of each fundraise page and you'll see they were created on the same day.
2. Why try just one site - in case it doesnt work - why not spread it out and hopefully cover my ground? Some fundraiser sites are just empty promises, some work.
Make sense?
I'm in a terrible state, but i can still think - and i am thinking all i can
Also; why are people suffering in Dubai, yet Dubai is one of the richest nations in the world? Because sometimes people get stuck, and as much as we try put ourselves in someone's shoes, we don't really know whats happening until we live it and we understand it. People face varying degrees of hardships; you may have been homeless and know what it feels like but one homeless person wouldn't have the same reason for beign homeless than another homeless person; so if you really really want to put yourself in someone's shoes; come ask personally or intimately - or you're just making assumptions just to discredit someone - which is fine if that's your goal.
Just an update everyone; i have managed to raise one month's rent - just one more to go.
One of the chatters on this thread; his nick is Nirmal - has donated some money - to also help me eat - THANK YOU Nirmal. We've been chatting on Skype and Whatsapp - so he's definitely seen my face, and where i am saying where i am/was.
So nope, i ain't some chatting/lying bullshit
I am still homeless, but once every few days i get to crash in with someone i know, so that's a relieve.
I get to shower at some places.
I haven't sold sold my laptop - just couldn't, i feel like i need it.
So - pushing aside the fact i am homeless and broke - i just have one last final month to complete the whole legality of rent, and i'm free to stay to get a proper full time job as i promised myself to (and Nirmal, because he's so kindly trusting me - if you're reading this Nirmal, please do a Shoutout because i want to acknowledge you and thank you in public).
I have 3 weeks guys - if you have anything i could do to fundraise, raise money - even if its for food; hey, just let me know.
Despite criticisms, pushing aside as bullshit, people stepping all over me, calling me names, discrediting me in any way, saying i'm not trying - i'm still a fighting machine.
I'm open to options; just not selling my body.
So let me know guys.
ps. Thank you to some of you still sending me your great wishes and love to a stranger.
Thanks - yes, i like you. I like you for trying to put yourself in my shoes.
Just to share with you; yes, its 6 grand a month, for two months, and i only requested for $2200 in that fundraiser website.
Here's something i have considered - and done but not told everyone - i have divided the amount into 6 fundraiser sites; not just 1.
Why?
1. When people look at the divided amount, its less scary and more attainable than a bigger amount ($2200? ok, we'll get there. 12000? Wow, not gonna get there, better move on). So, if you'd like to see the other fundraising sites where i have listed to try raise money, please let me know. Just in case, if you think i've just created them, you should check out the "Start Date" of each fundraise page and you'll see they were created on the same day.
2. Why try just one site - in case it doesnt work - why not spread it out and hopefully cover my ground? Some fundraiser sites are just empty promises, some work.
Make sense?
I'm in a terrible state, but i can still think - and i am thinking all i can
Also; why are people suffering in Dubai, yet Dubai is one of the richest nations in the world? Because sometimes people get stuck, and as much as we try put ourselves in someone's shoes, we don't really know whats happening until we live it and we understand it. People face varying degrees of hardships; you may have been homeless and know what it feels like but one homeless person wouldn't have the same reason for beign homeless than another homeless person; so if you really really want to put yourself in someone's shoes; come ask personally or intimately - or you're just making assumptions just to discredit someone - which is fine
if that's your goal.Just an update everyone; i have managed to raise one month's rent - just one more to go.
One of the chatters on this thread; his nick is Nirmal - has donated some money - to also help me eat - THANK YOU Nirmal. We've been chatting on Skype and Whatsapp - so he's definitely seen my face, and where i am saying where i am/was.
So nope, i ain't some chatting/lying bullshit
I am still homeless, but once every few days i get to crash in with someone i know, so that's a relieve.
I get to shower at some places.
I haven't sold sold my laptop - just couldn't, i feel like i need it.
So - pushing aside the fact i am homeless and broke - i just have one last final month to complete the whole legality of rent, and i'm free to stay to get a proper full time job as i promised myself to (and Nirmal, because he's so kindly trusting me - if you're reading this Nirmal, please do a Shoutout because i want to acknowledge you and thank you in public).
I have 3 weeks guys - if you have anything i could do to fundraise, raise money - even if its for food; hey, just let me know.
Despite criticisms, pushing aside as bullshit, people stepping all over me, calling me names, discrediting me in any way, saying i'm not trying - i'm still a fighting machine.
I'm open to options; just not selling my body.
So let me know guys.
ps. Thank you to some of you still sending me your great wishes and love to a stranger.
Carepolice
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homme143, I read through most of this and I have just one question for you
Why aren't you providing services here?
You've clearly spent a bunch of time putting sites together in hopes of receiving donations but I feel as though you'd make out a whole lot better if you focused your efforts on writing articles or providing some other form of freelance work in exchange for money here. Hell, you could ask for donations to get your JRVIP and to open a sales thread. Why should people pay into your "charity" when you're not actually furthering yourself as a result?
I have doubts about your situation, and I think phpbuilt has made some great points here, but if you're telling us the truth then I hope you take my advice and use your online time productively.
Why aren't you providing services here?
You've clearly spent a bunch of time putting sites together in hopes of receiving donations but I feel as though you'd make out a whole lot better if you focused your efforts on writing articles or providing some other form of freelance work in exchange for money here. Hell, you could ask for donations to get your JRVIP and to open a sales thread. Why should people pay into your "charity" when you're not actually furthering yourself as a result?
I have doubts about your situation, and I think phpbuilt has made some great points here, but if you're telling us the truth then I hope you take my advice and use your online time productively.
hi carepolice -
you're not reading what i wrote here properly. Please read the ending of my last "update"
What did i write? I wrote "I have 3 weeks guys - if you have anything i could do to fundraise, raise money - even if its for food; hey, just let me know.
Despite criticisms, pushing aside as bullshit, people stepping all over me, calling me names, discrediting me in any way, saying i'm not trying - i'm still a fighting machine.
I'm open to options; just not selling my body.".
Key words: "if you have anything i could do" - i.e. do you guys have any jobs i could do? any service? maybe even wite articles? or anything? Please let me know.
I didn't ask for money straightup - i said, "if there is anything i could do" - a job, a service, something.
And its not the first time i wrote such a thing; people seem to think all i want is direct money money money - yes, donations are great, thank you - but so many times i wrote "if there's anything i could do". Don't get me wrong, i'mnot sitting here idly doing nothing but wait for comments or whatever (if i did, i wouldn't have managed to raise that one month).
I am actively doing all i can. So - thank you for your advice - but please, its frustrating getting people coming in and accusing me of not doing anything when i am - it doesn't encourage me, it pushes me down.
If you'd like to be helpful, perhaps you know a thread offering some writing jobs?
That would be great; instead of assuming i'm not doing antyhing.
Thank you, cheers.
you're not reading what i wrote here properly. Please read the ending of my last "update"
What did i write? I wrote "I have 3 weeks guys - if you have anything i could do to fundraise, raise money - even if its for food; hey, just let me know.
Despite criticisms, pushing aside as bullshit, people stepping all over me, calling me names, discrediting me in any way, saying i'm not trying - i'm still a fighting machine.
I'm open to options; just not selling my body.".
Key words: "if you have anything i could do" - i.e. do you guys have any jobs i could do? any service? maybe even wite articles? or anything? Please let me know.
I didn't ask for money straightup - i said, "if there is anything i could do" - a job, a service, something.
And its not the first time i wrote such a thing; people seem to think all i want is direct money money money - yes, donations are great, thank you - but so many times i wrote "if there's anything i could do". Don't get me wrong, i'mnot sitting here idly doing nothing but wait for comments or whatever (if i did, i wouldn't have managed to raise that one month).
I am actively doing all i can. So - thank you for your advice - but please, its frustrating getting people coming in and accusing me of not doing anything when i am - it doesn't encourage me, it pushes me down.
If you'd like to be helpful, perhaps you know a thread offering some writing jobs?
That would be great; instead of assuming i'm not doing antyhing.
Thank you, cheers.
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ProSEO Show
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- Sep 27, 2013
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There's seriously several of these a day on here...No one is going to spoon feed you methods they worked hard to develop and make a decent ROI on just because you put yourself in a bad situation man...If it was possible to make money easy online just from reading someones response on a forum, then most of us would be balling out...
There's a lot involved in IM, including huge investments in time and money for most methods, and that is not the type of thing you should be focused on when you're about to lose your house. Hell you'd be better off collecting pop cans at this point. There is work near you, go find it. Get 3 jobs if you have to. Don't waste your time trying to nickle and dime with websites that have made you $11.00.
There's a lot involved in IM, including huge investments in time and money for most methods, and that is not the type of thing you should be focused on when you're about to lose your house. Hell you'd be better off collecting pop cans at this point. There is work near you, go find it. Get 3 jobs if you have to. Don't waste your time trying to nickle and dime with websites that have made you $11.00.
webmasterbd
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- Dec 2, 2009
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Bro start with small then scale it up.If you have certain skill try with outsourcing site then once you have some money & some client start with your own site selling services & go from there.
Carepolice
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- Mar 25, 2009
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Open your own thread, offer your services for free to build a few reviews then sell your services. If you're really motivated then you'll make it work, waiting for threads is just a tiny step up from asking for freebies man. Hell you could post for a JV with someone who has exposure here and partner up with them to write articles.
It isn't hard, it really isn't. All you're doing is begging and that's not good enough.
Hi carepolice;
Sorry, no i wasn't begging for money, i'm doing my best - and i know its not just being online that i need to work on. I hope you don't judge me and accuse me of not doing anything when i myself know i am. But who cares - cause you can't see what i'm doing, to you i'm not doing anything.
Anyway; a shout out to some of you guys who have been SUPPORTIVE! Giving me solutions, pointing me in the right direction, giving me links, wanting to offer me work, clicking on my adsense on my websites, and to Nirmal, the donation to my school.
GOOD NEWS GUYS! The company is closing my lease a month early, which means: NO MORE SCHOOL RENT! I've already raised the rent for this month (despite some of you saying i haven't been doing anything) so thats covered!
SO NO MORE RENT FOR SCHOOL - YEAY!!!
BUT, i'm still homeless, and would be jobless - but because i am getting back my 3-month rent deposit near the middle of Jan, i would only be homeless for a couple more weeks, and then i'd be better!
(Your donation will be returned to you via Paypal Nirmal - thank you for your trust and faith!)
Life gets better; i'm glad i didn't do anything stupid like sell my body, or sell my computer, or even suicide!
I kept at it - i kept strong - i kept trying - i kept trying to be positive. Even when i was sleeping on the street - still am - i forced myself to be positive and optimistic.
AND i am glad i did not sell my laptop like someone suggested, because in the day time, i'd go to the library and watch THE SECRET and videos on Laws of Attraction, and i listened to positive songs like Celine Dion's "I'm Alive".
THANK YOU FOR GOOD VIBES, GOOD LOVE TO A STRANGER - Your help, your empathy, your attention and your effort to help me. Things are going up, and they will continue to go up.
The challenges continue as i build my life again; but at least now i see light shining through.
I've been labeled so many nasty stuff by people here - both on here and on private message - but i kept at it. People call me names, people labelling me, making accusations and all that; but hey, unless you have been in my shoes, i have nothing to say to those people. Things are easier said than done, and my situation may not be the same or even similar to yours.
But guess what; for every nasty label, accusations or name calling i get, i get 3 people - strangers - wanting to boost me confidence.
So goodness is more than the negative.
Some of you gave tough love; its ok to get some, but if you have ALOT of it, sometime people crumble because come on; tough love is tough - someone is aleady going through a tough time, more tough can actually be damaging.
Anyway, to sum things up - things are doing wayyy better, and i am going to skip today to pray because this is one of my steps to rebuilding myself and success.
Sorry, no i wasn't begging for money, i'm doing my best - and i know its not just being online that i need to work on. I hope you don't judge me and accuse me of not doing anything when i myself know i am. But who cares - cause you can't see what i'm doing, to you i'm not doing anything.
Anyway; a shout out to some of you guys who have been SUPPORTIVE! Giving me solutions, pointing me in the right direction, giving me links, wanting to offer me work, clicking on my adsense on my websites, and to Nirmal, the donation to my school.
GOOD NEWS GUYS! The company is closing my lease a month early, which means: NO MORE SCHOOL RENT! I've already raised the rent for this month (despite some of you saying i haven't been doing anything) so thats covered!
SO NO MORE RENT FOR SCHOOL - YEAY!!!
BUT, i'm still homeless, and would be jobless - but because i am getting back my 3-month rent deposit near the middle of Jan, i would only be homeless for a couple more weeks, and then i'd be better!
(Your donation will be returned to you via Paypal Nirmal - thank you for your trust and faith!)
Life gets better; i'm glad i didn't do anything stupid like sell my body, or sell my computer, or even suicide!
I kept at it - i kept strong - i kept trying - i kept trying to be positive. Even when i was sleeping on the street - still am - i forced myself to be positive and optimistic.
AND i am glad i did not sell my laptop like someone suggested, because in the day time, i'd go to the library and watch THE SECRET and videos on Laws of Attraction, and i listened to positive songs like Celine Dion's "I'm Alive".
THANK YOU FOR GOOD VIBES, GOOD LOVE TO A STRANGER - Your help, your empathy, your attention and your effort to help me. Things are going up, and they will continue to go up.
The challenges continue as i build my life again; but at least now i see light shining through.
I've been labeled so many nasty stuff by people here - both on here and on private message - but i kept at it. People call me names, people labelling me, making accusations and all that; but hey, unless you have been in my shoes, i have nothing to say to those people. Things are easier said than done, and my situation may not be the same or even similar to yours.
But guess what; for every nasty label, accusations or name calling i get, i get 3 people - strangers - wanting to boost me confidence.
So goodness is more than the negative.
Some of you gave tough love; its ok to get some, but if you have ALOT of it, sometime people crumble because come on; tough love is tough - someone is aleady going through a tough time, more tough can actually be damaging.
Anyway, to sum things up - things are doing wayyy better, and i am going to skip today to pray because this is one of my steps to rebuilding myself and success.
dropshippa
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i guess you need to use your god-gifted "BRAIN"
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well to be frank only you can help yourself! Do parttime, work extra do whatever you can but you need to rise. Never give up! Life is all about ups and downs!
Do you honestly think that members of this forum who have sweated blood in order to achieve there goal, are willing to share all their information to someone who has done nowhere near enough research into making anything work?
I'm afraid you'll have to start at the bottom, just like the rest of us.
If you were looking at a quick method of earning an extra 10 dollars or so then there's plenty of help on here. The problem is, you want to start at the top!
Go along with a method from this forum and stick with it. Put your life and soul into it and eventually you will have success.
I'm afraid you'll have to start at the bottom, just like the rest of us.
If you were looking at a quick method of earning an extra 10 dollars or so then there's plenty of help on here. The problem is, you want to start at the top!
Go along with a method from this forum and stick with it. Put your life and soul into it and eventually you will have success.
AlreadyBanned
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Out of all the words here, you said the practical and real-world thing. If you have the ability to earn online, you would never face problem, because earning online is not everyone's piece of cake!
This guy is depressed and i guess he should really sell his assets to save his A** and should speak with his Land-Lord, as he is the person because of which OP is depressed.
skinnyboi
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You most likely aren't going to figure anything spectacular out and make $800 in a week. I've been in this situation a few times and I can tell you that the best advice is get back on feet by getting a job first.
You have learned a valuable lesson about failure and your mental health. The hole is going to only go deeper so there is no point trying to become an internet millionaire with your back against the wall. It just doesn't work like that.
You have learned a valuable lesson about failure and your mental health. The hole is going to only go deeper so there is no point trying to become an internet millionaire with your back against the wall. It just doesn't work like that.
Torrecilla
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You find the way, I was like you, remember, never give up man.
SpiderBlast
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$800 in 7 days is cake.
Seriously. And there seems to be a serious lack of creativity on this forum.
Back a couple years ago, I was in a similar spot as you. Was broke as fuck and unable to pay my bills.
But I didn't know shit about BHW back then, and I hung out primarily at the offline section of WF.
A lot of guys on here don't know how to make that type of money that fast. Keyphrase "that fast".
Because lets face it, most of them/us are brainwashed to think about marketing as "internet marketing".
Shit like CPA, PPD, Clickbank, Adsense, Amazon, etc etc.
The problem is, you need to change your mindset. When I was on WF, in your position, I was able
to make over $4,000 my first month doing this simple little "trick".
Its called the "Pick Up Your Phone" trick.
And it is amazingly profitable, if you're in a desperate situation and can talk. As in open your mouth and
say something.
What I did was simple, I got a pack of Valpak mailers I received in the mail. Then I started looking for the
shittiest coupons I could find. You will find A LOT in valpak. Coupons that are done terribly. What I'd do
is first see if the business had a website. If they did, 90% of the time the website looked as bad as
their coupons. But before I called, I'd make a short list of things I could improve, and basically offered
to redesign their sites.
This is VERY EASY to do. I didn't know a g/damn thing about shit back then. All I knew was 3 things.
1) How to install wordpress.
2) Basic use of wordpress.
3) What a good website looked like.
I didn't have any pitch or anything. I'd just call up the companies with the shitty coupons and websites,
and give them advice. And I made myself sound a lot smarter than I really was. Like "you guys have
no logo, no guarantee, no call to action, no social proof... how do you expect to get phone calls when
all you're doing is listing your services but all your competitors are doing a lot more?". And I'd just try
position myself as someone who knew how to design good websites.. Then I'd offer to redo their sites,
and told them I could give them a better valpak design. And I didn't have a set price, I'd negotiate a
different price for each company.
This was really easy to sell. But I busted my ass early on making incredible sites for like $600-$1000.
And before I knew it, I was getting lots of referals. After only 2 months of doing this, I had my schedule
filled 2 weeks in advance.
So if you can design a website, you can SELL web design. There are TONS of businesses out there with
horrendous sites, that are blowing money on marketing. And there are 3 different packs of mailers I
get every month that are filled with ugly ass coupons, and sites that look like a 12 year old made them.
I'm telling you - you can make all the money in the world if you just pick up the phone and give people
solid advice. They will respect you for it, you get them talking, demonstrate some value, and if you can
finish 2 sites a week, you can make really good money.
Webdesign is how I eventually slipped into lead generation, which is where the real money is at.
But if you're broke and desperate, this method can save you like it saved me. Web design didn't just
get me into marketing fulltime, but it made the prospects of getting a job, completely pointless.
And even these days, if shit ever hits the fan, I will get right back on the horn and do the same thing.
Because it never fails.
-SB
Seriously. And there seems to be a serious lack of creativity on this forum.
Back a couple years ago, I was in a similar spot as you. Was broke as fuck and unable to pay my bills.
But I didn't know shit about BHW back then, and I hung out primarily at the offline section of WF.
A lot of guys on here don't know how to make that type of money that fast. Keyphrase "that fast".
Because lets face it, most of them/us are brainwashed to think about marketing as "internet marketing".
Shit like CPA, PPD, Clickbank, Adsense, Amazon, etc etc.
The problem is, you need to change your mindset. When I was on WF, in your position, I was able
to make over $4,000 my first month doing this simple little "trick".
Its called the "Pick Up Your Phone" trick.
And it is amazingly profitable, if you're in a desperate situation and can talk. As in open your mouth and
say something.
What I did was simple, I got a pack of Valpak mailers I received in the mail. Then I started looking for the
shittiest coupons I could find. You will find A LOT in valpak. Coupons that are done terribly. What I'd do
is first see if the business had a website. If they did, 90% of the time the website looked as bad as
their coupons. But before I called, I'd make a short list of things I could improve, and basically offered
to redesign their sites.
This is VERY EASY to do. I didn't know a g/damn thing about shit back then. All I knew was 3 things.
1) How to install wordpress.
2) Basic use of wordpress.
3) What a good website looked like.
I didn't have any pitch or anything. I'd just call up the companies with the shitty coupons and websites,
and give them advice. And I made myself sound a lot smarter than I really was. Like "you guys have
no logo, no guarantee, no call to action, no social proof... how do you expect to get phone calls when
all you're doing is listing your services but all your competitors are doing a lot more?". And I'd just try
position myself as someone who knew how to design good websites.. Then I'd offer to redo their sites,
and told them I could give them a better valpak design. And I didn't have a set price, I'd negotiate a
different price for each company.
This was really easy to sell. But I busted my ass early on making incredible sites for like $600-$1000.
And before I knew it, I was getting lots of referals. After only 2 months of doing this, I had my schedule
filled 2 weeks in advance.
So if you can design a website, you can SELL web design. There are TONS of businesses out there with
horrendous sites, that are blowing money on marketing. And there are 3 different packs of mailers I
get every month that are filled with ugly ass coupons, and sites that look like a 12 year old made them.
I'm telling you - you can make all the money in the world if you just pick up the phone and give people
solid advice. They will respect you for it, you get them talking, demonstrate some value, and if you can
finish 2 sites a week, you can make really good money.
Webdesign is how I eventually slipped into lead generation, which is where the real money is at.
But if you're broke and desperate, this method can save you like it saved me. Web design didn't just
get me into marketing fulltime, but it made the prospects of getting a job, completely pointless.
And even these days, if shit ever hits the fan, I will get right back on the horn and do the same thing.
Because it never fails.
-SB