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Death of php?

Discussion in 'PHP & Perl' started by cbnoob, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. cbnoob

    cbnoob Senior Member

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    How do you guys think? I'm no php or programming expert but with the trend of moving to mobile apps, it seems the use of php is now quite limited.
    Thanks in advance for your inputs
     
  2. theAngle

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    Hahahaha

    You are funny!! Are you serious?

    PHP is just becoming better and is far from its ending.

    PHP is powering Facebook to give you just one example.
     
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    shaddelick Regular Member

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    Two different uses, so i dont think one will affect the other at all
     
  4. SomeoneFromOne

    SomeoneFromOne Registered Member

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    Don't worry, it won't die. Like theAngle said, php is powering Facebook.

    It will never die, or let's say, it is really far from dying.
     
  5. cbnoob

    cbnoob Senior Member

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    I mean for apps makers, isn't it more attractive to learn java or objective c to make mobile apps rather than learning php?
     
  6. theAngle

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    There are also some testings related to mobile with PHP but is not getting much popularity because of these already known languages, that you cited.
     
  7. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    PHP is not a language for apps. It 's a language for the web. So, mobile apps are irrelevant, unless people stop using websites :D
     
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  8. knall

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    The trend is mobile apps but there will always be a need for websites and php isnt going away.
     
  9. phr0zt

    phr0zt Regular Member

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    PHP is a cornerstone of internet technology. And when combining it with JavaScript, HTML5, etc, you can make cutting edge websites and mobile apps.
     
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  10. shatison

    shatison Newbie

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    I use php for server side operations that run in the backend of all 12 of my apps that are currently in the iTunes store. In my opinion, php is a must have for any interactive apps that require data storage. It is great for running SQL statements, parsing JSON data, and many other operations done external from the phone.
     
  11. cbnoob

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    Thanks for the input guys. I was worried
     
  12. kazhkaz

    kazhkaz Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If PHP will die it will be a very slow death for sure because big majority of web is built on php
     
  13. memyselfi

    memyselfi Junior Member

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    oh Please :D
    one more waste-of-time thread.
     
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  14. Zak_A

    Zak_A Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    As someone said already, facebook is powered by PHP.
    For a more popular example, WordPress is made of PHP.

    Any cutting edge website today is made of PHP (+MySql) + HTML5 + CSS3 + Javascript (+jQuery)

    And I can even address to mobile concern, of course mobile apps are built with other languages, but most websites don't really need an app, they'd rather have a mobile version (or better yet, a responsive design), and this is built with web-technologies, which leads us back to good old PHP (and the other I cited just above) :)
     
  15. xxtoni

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    Gosh, when are these "death of x" things going to stop...this is just fear-mongering.

    Nothing against the OP, he probably read it somewhere but there is no reason to ever worry about things like that. I remember back in the day when Steve Jobs killed OpenDoc



    The OP's question reminds me of the "question" asked by that guy to Steve Jobs. Or rather to be more specific it reminds me of another instance, now that I'm thinking of Apple, the flash issue. Everybody was attacking Apple for not including Flash in iOS and how much of a drawback it is not having flash and at that time they, or rather Jobs wrote thoughts on flash and a few years later Adobe scrapped mobile flash as well.

    You have to make a choice on which platforms to use, because some platforms do and some don't have a future.

    Regarding your question on the death of PHP and being worried about it. PHP is gonna stay around for a while, but even if it doesn't there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to be worried if it dies. Because it won't die, it will be replaced by something that is more capable, more efficient but it won't just disappear. So you should NEVER, EVER worry about things like this.

    My last point is about your thoughts on the language of choice, PHP vs App languages as you put it. Again, there is no reason to worry here either, I'm not a programer myself but I Know a lot of them and if you're a good programmer adopting a new language isn't more than a few months of work, if not less. Most people make the mistake of thinking that there is something incredibly complicated about the language syntax that has to be learned, no...programming is so hard because you actually have to re-wire the way you think, that's the hard part...learning the syntax is something that most of us can do in a month or two.

    Hope that this satisfies your curiosity and erases your fears.
     
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  16. dewaz

    dewaz Regular Member

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    I really wish borland make some visual php programming for us. I try to learn using macromedia and it's crazy, I have to type one by one to make it work. When I try to use copy-paste it doesn't work at all.
     
  17. Zak_A

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    PHP being a server side scripting language, how could a visual php programming software could even exist ?

    The only kind of interfaces you can have while working with php are made of HTML (such as forms, and maybe javascript/jQuery for AJAXed stuff).

    Borland visual XXX are convenient for developing programs with GUIs (desktop applications), but PHP is not that kind of language...
     
  18. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    See here: http://www.embarcadero.com/products/radphp ;) There was also a similar product by a French company but I can't remember the name.
     
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  19. Zak_A

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    Right you are ;)

    But still I don't think it really compares to "Borland visual [...]" kind of software that let you design and create desktop based application with minimal coding, as complex php scripts can't be really be "visually" designed (most of them have simply no user interface, just pure script interacting with databases etc.)
     
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    PHP produces the web but mobile apps just display it on your small screen.
     
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