Cure For Coronavirus

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Read that Italy is going with extensive Tocilizumab use for their sick with COVID-19.

Let's see how that pans out.
 
So ICU units are not over crowded and stretched.. to slow down the spread and allow them to cope better, common sense really. There’s only so many icu and oxygen machines one country will have.. the lock downs are more to delay and allow the hospitals breathing room.

That's what I said in the first place - countries that know they can't cope with the strain this will produce on their healthcare system (as not just the most vulnerable but even those with moderate vulnerability will require treatment) are locking down as they won't to avoid civil unrest in a worst case scenario this may result in.
Countries that can cope with it are not.

It doesn't help that cross-species transmission of Clovid19 is VERY high either. All kinds of mammals are being effected and countries like china, Italy and spain are great consumers of non-veg produce.
 
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Well for all their superhuman technological capabilities and million and billions looks like they have yet to learn how to keep themselves clean enough to stop producing this kind of pest every five years or so and dragging half the world down with them too.
Yes, unfortunately you are right. The technology over their is more advanced than in most western countries, but the behavior of many people is like from 19th century. Uneducated (mostly everyone who is over 40 years old), no common sense, no hygiene standards, weird moral values (especially with animals). What is always amazes me is how many people over there go to universities and make awesome degrees, but have literally no common sense. They would just stop their car on the middle of the highway, make a U-turn on the highway or drive backwards. I have seen it all. Thats why the internet gets flooded with weird videos from China, mostly on Liveleak and so on, where people are doing stupid mistakes and die. Basically its the perfect example for education =/= intelligence
 
Read that Italy is going with extensive Tocilizumab use for their sick with COVID-19.

Let's see how that pans out.

What is it and how does it work?
 
What is it and how does it work?

No clue at all. All it is known from Google is this:

Tocilizumab, also known as atlizumab, is an immunosuppressive drug, mainly for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and systemic juvenile idiopathic arthritis, a severe form of arthritis in children.

This medication is used alone or with other medications to treat moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis in adults. ... Tocilizumab may also be used to treat a reaction (Cytokine Release Syndrome-CRS) caused by certain cancer treatments.
 
R&D vaccines take years to develop and only work with stable specimen ie those that don't have a propensity to hypermutate. There is no vaccine and there will be no vaccine beyond developing natural immunity.
 
That's what I said in the first place - countries that know they can't cope with the strain this will produce on their healthcare system (as not just the most vulnerable but even those with moderate vulnerability will require treatment) are locking down as they won't to avoid civil unrest in a worst case scenario this may result in.
Countries that can cope with it are not.

It doesn't help that cross-species transmission of Clovid19 is VERY high either. All kinds of mammals are being effected and countries like china, Italy and spain are great consumers of non-veg produce.

Dude again this is laughable! The NHS can barely cope with seasonal flu lol it has nothing to do with the system being better in the UK.. because believe it me it’s not, I’ve lived in and seen both.

What?? You seriously are making no sense bro.. diet? The Spanish eat a far healthier diet than the UK, as does Italy.. the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest in the world, they eat well here.. much better than I’ve seen back home, they also have sunlight which produces vitamin D (great for the immune system and killing viruses) which you’re all lacking in.

You are living on cloud nine, give it a few weeks then come back and tell me how prepared the nhs is.. by the way my sister is a “sister” in a ward (basically the head nurse), my cousin is also a regular nurse in the same hospital.. the nhs is a joke, it’s been over stretched for years bro, the dogs on the street know that.

Ignorance is bliss I guess. I was the same two weeks ago.. so I don’t judge.
 
What?? You seriously are making no sense bro.. diet? The Spanish eat a far healthier diet than the UK, as does Italy.. the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest in the world, they eat well here.. much better than I’ve seen back home, they also have sunlight which produces vitamin D (great for the immune system and killing viruses) which you’re all lacking in.

You're missing the point - I don't mean how healthy a diet is. I'm talking about the fact that clovid19 shows far high virulence in animals - all sorts of animals not just one or two as is usually the case; as virus vectors and sadly as victims themselves, than it does in humans and the vast majority of meat in the UK is imported. Most of the meat production in Italy and especially spain is not, meaning more live animals as a further risk!

You many want to ask someone you know about any affiliation between private and public health sector in UK via extensive policy making of big healthcare insurance companies and the the role private healthcare plays here in case there is ever any state of emergency :) I don't think any other country in the world has such an arrangement. Most of Britain's wealth and capabilities is held in reserve, for when they are needed - London isn't the gold (reserve currency) capital of the world for nothing ;) just to draw on an analogy.
 
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You're missing the point - I don't mean how healthy a diet is. I'm talking about the fact that clovid19 shows far high virulence in animals - all sorts of animals not just one or two as is usually the case; as virus vectors and sadly as victims themselves, than it does in humans and the vast majority of meat in the UK is imported. Most of the meat production in Italy and especially spain is not meaning more live animals at risk!

You many want to ask someone you know affiliation between private and public health sector in UK via extensive policy making of big healthcare insurance companies and the the role private healthcare plays here in case there is ever any state of emergency :) I don't think any other country in the world has such an arrangement. Most of Britain's wealth and capabilities is held in reserve, for when they are needed - London isn't the gold (reserve currency) capital of the world for nothing ;) just to draw on an analogy.

Ah bro I’ve always been told not to debate with someone that just doesn’t want to listen.. it’s a waste of time for us both.

Want to know why the UK hasn’t acted.. because they’re a bunch of self serving torie elitists more worried about their pockets than the people they’re supposed to be protecting, the article below sums it up pretty well and from a very well educated man:

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/03/11/there-is-a-choice-on-coronavirus-we-can-save-people-or-the-economy-but-not-both-and-the-government-is-choosing-the-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0Sic5jU1BdNCUtlpOOKLX-tLW-1UypQmbdVnOtKISUdrNB5n0qFur0Z8k

Like I said, let’s see how you’re all sitting in 2 weeks... little Britain syndrome has you wearing rose tinted glasses my man. Stay safe and good luck!
 
Ah bro I’ve always been told not to argue with someone that just doesn’t want to listen.. it’s a waste of time for us both.

Want to know why the UK hasn’t acted.. because they’re a bunch of self serving torie elitists more worried about their pockets than the people they’re supposed to be protecting, the article below sums it up pretty well and from a very well educated man:

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/03/11/there-is-a-choice-on-coronavirus-we-can-save-people-or-the-economy-but-not-both-and-the-government-is-choosing-the-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0Sic5jU1BdNCUtlpOOKLX-tLW-1UypQmbdVnOtKISUdrNB5n0qFur0Z8k

These are just merely theories though for the sake of traffic and promotion. I am talking about policies as legal realities!

Two weeks from now, a lot of peoples pockets might have taken a hit but in terms of threat to life most of the healthy adult population will be thinking what was that about ;)
 
These are just theories though. I am talking about policies as legal realities!

Two weeks from now, a lot of peoples pockets might have taken a hit but most of the healthy adult population will be thinking what was that about ;)

You are talking like your retard of a prime minister mate.. “most of the healthy adult population”.. so fuck the vulnerable, the already sick and the elderly?? Is that you Boris? That’s basically the stance your government is taking right now, the healthily will be fine and good luck to the rest.. shameful.

Done debating with you now.. back to play PlayStation with my son, isolation at home does have its perks.. for now!
 
Not sure what you're babbling about, it has been shown through studies to kill all type of bacteria and viruses and not sure how it kills people as it doesn't kill people, a lot of FDA drugs do and they also have side effects. Unless you mean something else: Weather there is a cure or not , people are gonna die anyway since there is no cure accepted by the mainstream or masses , you might as well try anything , you're also one of those who believes anything that comes from the mainstream government or FDA or from the pharmaceuticals . You value their opinion so high and trust them so much.

You mean like the tobacco industry that has studies funded by them that claims smoking is healthy ?

Or you mean the meat industry and dairy industry that has studies funding their own products and claim it is healthy ?

You must be one close minded person to think that the FDA or pharmaceutical don't fund a lot of these studies trying to downplay natural remedies in favor of their own chemical man made drugs for profit. Let's look at studies that aren't funded by them regarding Silver in fighting viruses and bacteria instead and we quickly get a different picture.

Also what about all those cancer organizations and various others that claim they are trying to cure cancer but promote meat as a diet despite it has been shown that meat and eating animals causes diabetes, cancer, obesity and many other type of diseases. These people run these type of organizations for profit. They are funded again by meat industries, dairy industries and everything else. And again they fund their own studies.

Same way the pharmaceutical companies do.

And again all these type of drugs are made for profit not to cure people.

The whole system is made by these people so they can profit.
I fully understand that I am wasting my time as you are from this special kind of people who pick only the facts that support their believes, but still. The world is bigger than you think. There is no "meat" nor "diary" lobbying in Europe, you know? There is no lobbying at all actually, because is illegal around here. Also a gun cure 100% of human`s diseases. Doesn't mean is suitable cure for everyone.
 
You are talking like your retard of a prime minister mate.. “most of the healthy adult population”.. so fuck the vulnerable, the already sick and the elderly?? Is that you Boris? That’s basically the stance your government is taking right now, the healthily will be fine and good luck to the rest.. shameful.

Done debating with you now.. back to play PlayStation with my son, isolation at home does have its perks.. for now!

I was thinking about a generalised response from the world collectively :) Britains response will be much better even than this though, when it comes even from those most immediately at risk - they are not worried one bit because of the involvement of private healthcare in such matters. They don't talk about it openly here because otherwise you will get every other relatively healthy person DEMANDING their headache be treated by the likes of BUPA.
 
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