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cpamatica - be careful with this affiliate network

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by raven666, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. raven666

    raven666 Junior Member

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    Allright so the thing is pretty simple i work with over +15 affiliate networks and i found cpamatica, it had great reviews, proofs and all those stuff that will make it look legit. In addition it offers weekly payments oh man sounds damn good.
    I joined cpamatica under account manager "Alex Popov" the guy asked me for proofs that i have traffic and work with cpa networks i've sent him few screenshots where i showed him my traffic sources and networks and the ammount i made it was somewhere $$$. First account manager was super active answered all my questions. That feels good.
    I've sent leads and guy stopped answering in 1 week he replied only once. said that he is too busy. I told him that my offer wasn't converting, and perhaps he could do something about it. I had the tracking over the offers and knew that leads where made but not counted. I suspected they were shaving outta 25 leads they counted 5 so, i was just enjoying the show and laughing about it. but it was near payday, so i said to myself "oh what a heck let those guys screw you and let them think that i am a fool". Now i messaged manager and he said (before the payment date) that my account must get locked because of fraud. I was shocked, i work with +15 networks making good money with them and yet nothing like this has happened. The guy called me fraud, i make the those 32$ per day sometimes per hour. It's not about money but it's about honesty. I am just mad that i lost my time over this guys.

    So fellas be careful with cpamatica just a friendly advice i don't want you to get tricked like i did. They will shave your leads, won't reply soon and will most happily lock your account.
     
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    iPinner Senior Member Premium Member

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    I have nothing to do with Cpamatica, they paid me few times, always on time, no issues on my end. So clearly, dude, figure out your shit and why you were really got locked, pretty sure there is another part of the story here... Networks scamming someone for 30$, doesn't make sense if you ask me.
     
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  3. raven666

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    I said enough and i have nothing to lie or hide. What makes you think that there is a another part of the story?
     
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    If you will read my first message again (I've slightly edited it), I am telling you, I got paid XXXX$ payments each, on time, no issues. I don't have problems with them and you do. Who would bother to scam someone for 30$ at all? So yeah, things doesn't add here. I am pretty sure you sent shitty traffic which were marked as fraud on their fraud score system.
     
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    never heard of them, but thanks for letting us know so we can avoid them.
     
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  6. raven666

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    i don't think that you see the real point here. It's not about money, even if it was 0.01 cents i would still open this thread. I am just saying that! everytime i messaged manager he never answered and while answered he was ok. Not a word he said about my "shitty" traffic unlit the day that he had to make payments. And how do you know that i have shitty traffic? what are the arguments?
    Those guys also shaved leads like crazy! While at ######## network at same offer my traffic converted like crazy, on their platform conversation rate was dead.
    As you should know, cpa networks never shave big players. If you made $$$$$ why would they shave you? but for small players the advertisers and cpa networks shave like crazy. i think you should know that by this time!


    And for the gods sake, why would anyone and i mean anyone would send fraud traffic to such networks. When you know that they will detect it in no time. Do i look that stupid?
     
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    Hello raven666, thanks for your review!
    as I told you via Skype, you sent not low quality traffic, you sent fraud traffic. You have just 5 leads and 3 of them with proxy (see the pic). The cost of fraud traffic somewhere around 0. We are looking for long term cooperation, if you wanna to build good relationship with our network you have to send really HQ traffic. Otherwise we cant work with you!

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    I am glad that you came here, alex. Now we won't have one sided conversation.

    I don't have control over the visitors. I've stated! i've provided around 25 leads ;) but you only counted only 5 and yet you say that 3 ware proxy. Now another question. If my traffic was such junk why didn't you replied at first moment when you saw it? you would rape off my leads till you could than would block account anyways!

    Mate your network shaved leads, outta 25 leads only 5 were counted
     
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    I told you as soon as I have seen your quality.
    Now another question. How do you know how many leads have you sent?
     
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    I can track my conversations ;) i ain't stupid dude.
    I asked you questions for a week and yet you didn't replied for days! excuses all you did and still do. By the way do you have the other blackhatworld account :) you caught up on this thread quickly i like it.

    You ban my account after i ask you to review what your advertisers do on their side?! Because you got hurt of what i said and figured it out that i am not the one you can deal with with your tricks so removed account. :D i can screenshot entire skype conversation and you won't find a thing where you said that you needed to test my traffic. What a nonesense

    :D even if i did send fraud traffic ( which i didn't ) you should have replied a while a ago and should have explained situation. But you replied when i pushed you in a corner. While for few days you haven't bothered to answer my questions regarding of such matters!
    This kinda things make me sick that's all.

    I'll let people decide whether they want to work with you or not. I am just saying that you didn't approach the case professionally and did took advantage of situation than claiming of fraud. I'll tell you what, the biggest fraud are networks who shave leads and advertisers who do the same thing.
     
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    never heard of that network , but network name made me lol - i see it as (C)SPAM Atica
     
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    lol. spammatica should be glad i made them well known.
    I think networks should be maintained under the law, which would have regulated the shaving issues ;) you know what i mean? they can fuck you up and yet you can't prove anything, you won't have direct or indirect proofs, actually you won't have much of argument but your word.

    Am i right, or am i right alex?
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, I might have used it otherwise.
     
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    Hey there, @raven666

    Thanks for your review and actions made in order to find justice.

    The thing is really simple. We do respect our partners and 100% honest with them. And we expect the same from them.

    Our fraud detection system, which we use for a long time now, showed that you were not honest. We had only 5 your conversions, 3 of them were with the same proxy. http://joxi.ru/eAONNKxHBKQY2o No 25 conversions were found. If you saw them in your tracking system, then provide a screen.

    And yeah, we actually don't a have a point to shave our partners for 20-30$. It doesn't make sense.

    The other thing, about the managers. They are highly professional and make their best to answer you asap. You were working with the good offer, where we don't usually accept newcomers, cause we relied on your competence. But when the things became clear and we saw you were cheating, Alex had the full right to ban you immediately in accordance with out rules. So it could ruin our relations with Advertiser. http://joxi.ru/vAWppxqHdxQVrW

    So sorry, we don't pay for fraud and never will.
     
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    - I'ma tell ya sumethin these guys at cpamatica they you know what they and you know this and they did that too and you know it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    - No we didn't.

    - Gimme ma moneyz?

    - No.

    Thread closed. Next case please.
     
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    You just called me a cheater, now you probably will say that i was the one who made his own leads on cpa offer ( that's seems as a good idea NOT ). Listen man, i reviewed your network and the way you approach business. Now you just said that leads were made by same proxy, how do you think anyone who has clear idea about cpa business would do that? your incompetence is clear, the way you laid my questions in a air, your managers didn't reply for days and now you claim that you work well and you are professional? who would believe that? in what world in what era? I still trying to be patient here, i haven't asked for that 30$, i don't really need that but blackhatworld members will be aware of situation that's all i want ;)
     
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    that's what i said, i can't provide direct proofs or even indirect ones. I think it's ok to say that nobody will be able to provide such a thing, their network, their rules, their play ground. However, such networksmake money thanks to publishers, no publishers means no business. That was a sole point of this thread.
     
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    And surely they'll be aware about you :)

    Good luck, man
     
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    Really? really? out of all arguments that's all you had to say? it's just broke my heart. well if i only had one
     
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    I am currently working with alex of cpamatica and i don't have any problem with the network nor alex. They are paying me on time hehe