CPA lead's new PPC service

Hichem Hanefi said:

All traffic sources where fraud happened ( no network can be 100% protected from fraud ) they have all issued a refund without any question , and they are : AppThis , LeadBolt , StartApp , PopAds , Propeller Ads , these are people who know how to do business !

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i respect you mate, i can see your telling the truth, i am just gavablasted on there business structure ....

what you can do is write on the shitlist of this forum explain in detail what happen and what you want ansaw for ,and give all images and evidence and see if the admin will open a shit list to get hopefully ansaw .

don't forget mention this post/ link ..

I hope you best luck really do....

not right ...

There is nothing here to explain that I didn't already explain. Here is a quick recap for anyone who is curious:

1. We sent him traffic for a year - no complaints. In this instance, his client (his advertiser) stole money from him. He wants us to now take the money from our publishers.

2. We block proxies, VPN, and duplicate IPs - anything that could be possible fraud. Any publisher that provides us bot-type of traffic on our CPC campaigns will be banned on our network EVEN THOUGH their clicks will never be counted as they will be blocked before the advertiser is charged. If you see accounts that get banned, this is mainly because they were TRYING to fraud our CPC system and failed.

3. It's only $50 to test with our network, and only a $10 minimum per campaign. If you don't like the quality for whatever reason, we'll refund you the unused $40.

4. We have a no reversal policy for any advertiser who wants to claim "quality" for the reason. If we allowed this, we'd be giving out our publisher's traffic for free to anyone who wanted to make such a claim that could never be substantiated. That's why testing is very important and we could not stress this more. Our no reversal policy highlights this.

5. The no reversal policy is stated in our terms, in our FAQ, and in all three guides. If he had proxy traffic, duplicate IPs, or anything of the sort - YES we would refund him, but this isn't the case, and we block it in every instance unless specifically requested on CPA/CPI campaigns. His client simply refused to pay him and he wanted to pass the problem to us / our publishers.

To save time, I'll continue to copy and paste this so everyone knows the facts of why we DON'T reverse on our publishers based on an advertiser's opinion alone, but in every instance we will provide a refund for fraud (proxy / VPN / duplicate IP traffic which we block anyway).

CPAlead.com said:

There is nothing here to explain that I didn't already explain. Here is a quick recap for anyone who is curious:

1. We sent him traffic for a year - no complaints. In this instance, his client (his advertiser) stole money from him. He wants us to now take the money from our publishers.

2. We block proxies, VPN, and duplicate IPs - anything that could be possible fraud. Any publisher that provides us bot-type of traffic on our CPC campaigns will be banned on our network EVEN THOUGH their clicks will never be counted as they will be blocked before the advertiser is charged. If you see accounts that get banned, this is mainly because they were TRYING to fraud our CPC system and failed.

3. It's only $50 to test with our network, and only a $10 minimum per campaign. If you don't like the quality for whatever reason, we'll refund you the unused $40.

4. We have a no reversal policy for any advertiser who wants to claim "quality" for the reason. If we allowed this, we'd be giving out our publisher's traffic for free to anyone who wanted to make such a claim that could never be substantiated. That's why testing is very important and we could not stress this more. Our no reversal policy highlights this.

5. The no reversal policy is stated in our terms, in our FAQ, and in all three guides. If he had proxy traffic, duplicate IPs, or anything of the sort - YES we would refund him, but this isn't the case, and we block it in every instance unless specifically requested on CPA/CPI campaigns. His client simply refused to pay him and he wanted to pass the problem to us / our publishers.

To save time, I'll continue to copy and paste this so everyone knows the facts of why we DON'T reverse on our publishers based on an advertiser's opinion alone, but in every instance we will provide a refund for fraud (proxy / VPN / duplicate IP traffic which we block anyway).

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you have ignored the fact he show you evidence of a afflicate showing that the traffic you gave him is fake , so how comes you don't accept that?

the fake traffic got his account ban , there was money left in the afflicate account , he ask you to exsplain why the traffic was fake to the afflicate via email .

why can you not help

redarrow said:

you have ignored the fact he show you evidence of a afflicate showing that the traffic you gave him is fake , so how comes you don't accept that?

the fake traffic got his account ban , there was money left in the afflicate account , he ask you to exsplain why the traffic was fake to the afflicate via email .

why can you not help

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Because he didn't post it, where did you see this? Let's review the IPs together and see if they're proxies. I'll be waiting.

@HICHEM-hanefi

cpaleads needs ip to cross refrence to help,
can you get them?

cpalead willing to cheek them ...

cpalead if the ip address come back as all fake are you willing to pay all the cash back he has lost?

redarrow said:

cpalead if the ip address come back as all fake are you willing to pay all the cash back he has lost?

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Of course, I'd love to work with Hichem again! If it was an issue with our system and duplicate IPs / Fraud came through somehow, I'd give him a refund and fix the exploit. I just can't give a refund for the reason of "quality" and we state that everywhere from our guides to our TOS. I wish I could give refunds for this reason, but what do you do when someone runs a campaign that you would never run yourself? What does Facebook / Adwords do when someone advertises a local meat shop to vegetarians and they get 0 results? Do you think they provide the client with a refund when they blame "quality"? What do I do when someone advertises an un-optimized co-reg offer and they don't get results from our publishers, do I tell my publishers it's their fault and reverse on them? I believe the fair approach is telling advertisers to test first so this doesn't happen in the first place. That's why it's only $50 to advertise, and only a minimum of $10, and why we'll refund the $40 if it doesn't work out...

hichem-hanefi please get the ip address from your afflicate and cpalead will work with you to solve this issue....

thank you cpalead for your professional approach to this matter

IP adresses and proofs are already on my previous posts , I'll not spend my life sending them again , it's not only one client that reversed the leads and they are high brands like Zynga which are very honest people , and as per my screenshots below I kept saying that your traffic is bad and you gave irrational reasons , and we work with our clients since more than 4 years , a client would never reverse on leads if he is profiting from them , he will just keep asking for more volume of traffic , otherwise it's just stupid . I gave you all proofs of proxies and fraud and I'm not the only one here claiming about your garbage traffic so stop saying that client stole money from us and that you are an angel who don't want to take money from your pubs , everyone here is getting banned from their CPA networks because your BAD Traffic , so we cannot be all wrong , and you said you block proxies unless on CPA , and my compaign was on CPA Basis , you block proxies from CPC maybe , but not from CPA , during the whole year as you can see I was only running on CPC , yes , traffic was incentive even if I disabled the incentive option and it gave 0% retention rate but it wasn't fraud , but yes , FRAUD happens on your CPA compaigns and you need to accept it , I'll not give up on that case until I get my right from you , because you are such a rude and impolite guy who blocked me twice from Skype while I was just asking to pay off my balance.

redarrow said:

hichem-hanefi please get the ip address from your afflicate and cpalead will work with you to solve this issue....

thank you cpalead for your professional approach to this matter

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I already sent them that so many times and they blocked me from Skype , do not believe what they say bro , they are such a PROFESSIONAL SCAMMERS , and they are not profesional at all by blocking people and ending support .

Yes I did see your report and it was for campaign name: Get $1000 in Bitcoin - One Field - INCENT, Get a $100 Walmart Gift Card - One Field - INCENT, and Get a $1000 Visa Card - One Field, not a Zynga offer nor have you ever complained about any traffic we ever sent you to a Zynga offer (I also don't recall you running a Zynga offer). You also told everyone that you didn't want incent traffic, yet your campaigns are incentive and I would imagine you opted into our incentive traffic. I don't see why you would want to send non-incentive traffic to an incentive offer.

You didn't provide proof in your previous posts, I think everyone can see that, and we blocked you on Skype after you continued to threaten us after we gave you a refund of your remaining balance.

Please provide us the proof of proxies, and with your permission, I'll provide everyone the records we have on our side for these campaigns. Again, we block proxy traffic and we block duplicate IPs, if we didn't, you wouldn't have worked with us for a full year without a complaint.

Stop saying that I was running for a year without complaining , you can see below the proofs on which I had complained SOOOO MANY TIMES about quality and everytime you deny to accept that your traffic quality is bad and you kept saying to run offers where clients don't want quality , and you just said that you block proxies only from CPC traffic , so stop keep lying . you blocked me on SKype after requesting 1 TIME to pay off my balance , and the proof is very clear below , as I said you lie like you breath , and everyone here got their affiliate accounts banned like I mentioned above , because your traffic is FRAUD , I'm not the only one to complain , so I'm sorry whatever you say you will not be believable , and I'll keep telling everywhere about your scam , me and the others compalaining here , and I will not answer any post you will make here , because you are an impolite person who keep blocking everybody who is complaining , and I have the proof that you said that you blocked many other clients as well , BHW doesn't allow me to upload excels , but the excels file are at PayPal compliance team and you have it as well and anyone wanting a proof just inbox me and I'll show you the full report with more than 900 leads with IP adresses masked behind KNOWN ISPs but Forseniq.com catched them , please do not keep saying you block fraud , you didn't even have an abiility to track publishers ids and whitelist/blacklsit , your technology is from the 60's , and that's why since Peter has left , CPALead has fell on the ground , and you do not have anymore any DIRECT ADVERTISER , because your traffic is garbage and you have very few publishers who remain working with you with their FRAUDULENT traffic , and you are paying them on a weekly basis , and if they leave , you will on the streets looking for money , everybody knows your reality , so stop playing .

I HAVE RAN MANY ZYNGA OFFERS and all were paused after sending 50 leads due to client request ( WORDS WITH FRIENDS , BUNNY POP ... ) the client got 0% retention rate , he said he never saw such a low rate even with incentivized traffic.

In fact , it's very simple , I call all readers here , to go and run any cpa offer on CPALead and send more than 150 / 200 leads and check whether your affiliate account will be banned or not , I WILL not argue more with such an irrational , rude , liar and impolite person , you don't deserve the position of a CEO of that company , proof of blocking me from skype after kindly asking to pay the remaining balance are attached below , as well as my CONTINUOS complaints about traffic , and how THE FOUNDER TROY was always so scared when I talk about quality , because he knows he is sending garbage traffic.

MY PROOFS ARE INIFINITE , ANYONE WHO HAS ANY DOUBT , JUST PM ME AND I WILL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING WITH A LIVE SKYPE SCREEN SHARING.

@Hichem Hanefi @redarrow Could you please show us screenshots from your tracking platform ? it's the only way to see if the traffic is really fraud or not, proving a traffic is fraudulent is a matter of technical stuff not just "Claiming" !!

Setox said:

@Hichem Hanefi @redarrow Could you please show us screenshots from your tracking platform ? it's the only way to see if the traffic is really fraud or not, proving a traffic is fraudulent is a matter of technical stuff not just "Claiming" !!

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HI,
I have been a media buyer since 2009 , do you think I can claim fraud without technical proof ??? As I said I have already followed the full proof to PayPal compliance team and to CPALEAD , Tracking platforms don't provide with anti-fraud system , but services like Forensiq DOES. You can find attached below , screenshots from Forensiq , with a SCORE 0 means NO FRAUD , SCORE between 2-3 is FRAUD ,
the screenshots is just a part of the report , as they were more than 900 conversions , I cannot screenshot them all , and as I already said , you can go and run compaign on cpalead.com and update this conversation with feedback from your network or client , I'm not here to spend my energy and time to just complain about something I'm not sure about it !

AND MOST OF ALL , THEY WERE 7 PEOPLE , JUST ON THIS SMALL THREAD WHO ARE ALSO CLAMING FRAUDULENT AND GARBAGE TRAFFIC FROM CPALEAD , SO DO YOU THINK 8 PEOPLE ARE JUST ATTACKING CPALEAD FOR NO REASON ????? PROOFS ARE ATTACHED , AND PLEASE BE MORE RATIONAL !

This is just a small thread , if you want to get shocked , join the group CPALAB on facebook and you will be really shocked by what guys say about cpalead !

PERSONALLY , I WASNT ABOUT TO COME HERE AND SHOW PEOPLE EVERYTHING , BUT ITS WHEN THEY BLOCKED ME FROM SKYPE , WHEN I DECIDED TO NEVER FORGIVE THOSE SCAMMERS.

Hichem Hanefi said:

PERSONALLY , I WASNT ABOUT TO COME HERE AND SHOW PEOPLE EVERYTHING , BUT ITS WHEN THEY BLOCKED ME FROM SKYPE , WHEN I DECIDED TO NEVER FORGIVE THOSE SCAMMERS.

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Open a shitlist, since they are active on BHW. Then you are doing it on the right way. That's also the highest chance to get your money (or whatever).

Seems interesting might test it out. Even if its incentive if the rates are good enough it could be worth it.

Hichem Hanefi said:

AND PLEASE BE MORE RATIONAL !

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I'm not here to argue with you or to defend CPA Lead, but you could just attach the previous screenshots from the start ! coz they worth way more than the bashing you launched in that thread.
As @ZlatanTheGod suggested, open a shitlist in here if you think you should get your money back .
Good luck.

Thank you Hichem.

Everyone please note, he just provided evidence that we DID NOT send him proxy traffic. Take a look at the IPs in the screenshots, look them up yourself if you are skeptical. https://www.iplocation.net/

https://www.screencast.com/t/XMAxdQd1H

We have seen quite a few sign ups for our advertising platform from CPALab and BHW in the last few days, Hichem for as much as you think you're hurting our business by spreading this nonsense, you're helping it.

Also everyone please remember, we sent Hichem traffic for a FULL YEAR before he ever had a complaint. In this instance, his complaint is due to an advertiser (his client) not paying him, and now he wants us to reverse on our publishers. He just provided evidence that the IPs were not proxy nor from a VPN. Again, everyone who is skeptical, look up the IPs yourselves.

Last, so everyone understands the full picture, we offer anyone to test our traffic for only $50. If you're not happy with the first $10 you spent on our campaign, you will refund you $40. If we sent Hichem bad traffic for a year, do you honestly believe he would have continued to send us 10-20 payments over the course of the year?

Magic555 said:

Seems interesting might test it out. Even if its incentive if the rates are good enough it could be worth it.

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Thanks, we'd be happy to have you. It's only $50 for a minimum deposit. If you'd like to run a CPC campaign with us, the minimum campaign budget is only $10. If you're not happy after the first $10, we will provide a refund of the remaining $40. Alternatively, if you wish to discontinue your ad before your $10 budget is used up, for instance you used $5 of your budget and then paused your campaign, we'll refund you $45.

We work with advertisers of all sizes, from budgets of $10 / day or less to advertisers with budgets of $1,000 / day and more.

CPAlead.com said:

Thank you Hichem.

Everyone please note, he just provided evidence that we DID NOT send him proxy traffic. Take a look at the IPs in the screenshots, look them up yourself if you are skeptical. https://www.iplocation.net/

https://www.screencast.com/t/XMAxdQd1H

We have seen quite a few sign ups for our advertising platform from CPALab and BHW in the last few days, Hichem for as much as you think you're hurting our business by spreading this nonsense, you're helping it.

Also everyone please remember, we sent Hichem traffic for a FULL YEAR before he ever had a complaint. In this instance, his complaint is due to an advertiser (his client) not paying him, and now he wants us to reverse on our publishers. He just provided evidence that the IPs were not proxy nor from a VPN. Again, everyone who is skeptical, look up the IPs yourselves.

Last, so everyone understands the full picture, we offer anyone to test our traffic for only $50. If you're not happy with the first $10 you spent on our campaign, you will refund you $40. If we sent Hichem bad traffic for a year, do you honestly believe he would have continued to send us 10-20 payments over the course of the year?

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You keep lying even after sending screenshots , on my previous posts , I have attached more than 7 screenshots , How I was complaining about hte traffic and looking for refunds for more than 4 months and how you blocked me because I wanted to pay off my balance for personal reason.
Stop taking people for stupids , CPALEAD.

ZlatanTheGod said:

Open a shitlist, since they are active on BHW. Then you are doing it on the right way. That's also the highest chance to get your money (or whatever).

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i will thx

Setox said:

I'm not here to argue with you or to defend CPA Lead, but you could just attach the previous screenshots from the start ! coz they worth way more than the bashing you launched in that thread.
As @ZlatanTheGod suggested, open a shitlist in here if you think you should get your money back .
Good luck.

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thx for the advice man

Thank you Hichem.

Everyone please note, he just provided evidence that we DID NOT send him proxy traffic. Take a look at the IPs in the screenshots, look them up yourself if you are skeptical. https://www.iplocation.net/

https://www.screencast.com/t/XMAxdQd1H

We have seen quite a few sign ups for our advertising platform from CPALab and BHW in the last few days, Hichem for as much as you think you're hurting our business by spreading this nonsense, you're helping it.

Also everyone please remember, we sent Hichem traffic for a FULL YEAR before he ever had a complaint. In this instance, his complaint is due to an advertiser (his client) not paying him, and now he wants us to reverse on our publishers. He just provided evidence that the IPs were not proxy nor from a VPN. Again, everyone who is skeptical, look up the IPs yourselves.

Last, so everyone understands the full picture, we offer anyone to test our traffic for only $50. If you're not happy with the first $10 you spent on our campaign, you will refund you $40. If we sent Hichem bad traffic for a year, do you honestly believe he would have continued to send us 10-20 payments over the course of the year?

CPAlead.com said:

Thank you Hichem.

Everyone please note, he just provided evidence that we DID NOT send him proxy traffic. Take a look at the IPs in the screenshots, look them up yourself if you are skeptical. https://www.iplocation.net/

https://www.screencast.com/t/XMAxdQd1H

We have seen quite a few sign ups for our advertising platform from CPALab and BHW in the last few days, Hichem for as much as you think you're hurting our business by spreading this nonsense, you're helping it.

Also everyone please remember, we sent Hichem traffic for a FULL YEAR before he ever had a complaint. In this instance, his complaint is due to an advertiser (his client) not paying him, and now he wants us to reverse on our publishers. He just provided evidence that the IPs were not proxy nor from a VPN. Again, everyone who is skeptical, look up the IPs yourselves.

Last, so everyone understands the full picture, we offer anyone to test our traffic for only $50. If you're not happy with the first $10 you spent on our campaign, you will refund you $40. If we sent Hichem bad traffic for a year, do you honestly believe he would have continued to send us 10-20 payments over the course of the year?

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Hahahaha even your free website is saying proxy and this implies your professionalism to not having an anti fraud system and relying on free websites hahah so pathetic , PayPal will trust the report from Forensiq.com the #1 anti fraud platform which from where I sent my reports and not a miserable free website . Anyway im just opening a shitlist with all reports from Forensiq and screenshots of your bad behaviour , talking with you shortens life