Constructing Master Tier 2 Articles with Ubertoolz

Lebron2727 said:

when I copy paste the exact thing expertpeon posted above I get this as an output:

What am I doing wrong?

I have the feeling that my ubercubes construction should be bigger, I have 10 paragraps of three to six sentences (each sentence has 6 rewrites).... The output of ubercubes is 1,5 page long, I think it should be much longer

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You're doing nothing wrong; that is correct. Expertpeon didn't paste in much of the construct; it was just an example.

The general rule is twice to triple the amount of paragraphs that you want to output. So if you want a 5 para, 500 word article, then you should build 10-15 paragraphs to 'choose' from. Do 3-5 rewrites per sentence. Then you just need to add some spintax to the sentences; which can be quite basic if you do more sentence rewrites. I always add some basic spintax though as it really beefs up the number of outputs, and you can stick to simple obvious spins; like adjective/verbs synonyms etc.

First I want to say that UberToolz is a ridiculously good product. My current workflow is this:

1. Outline the master article sentence by sentence (short form to capture the basics the sentence needs in order to flow after replacements)
2. Write a paragraph, then go back and write the replacement sentences. Repeat until finished with article.
3. Use SpinChimp to hand-spin phrases/words
4. Move to UberToolz to format as nested spintax

I'm new to IM, so I haven't posted anything yet because I'm still investigating my options to automate that step. Probably going to get ZennoPoster.

How much hand-spinning is really needed on the phrase/word level? I'm very meticulous with it and it takes me forever to get through this stuff. I have a 4000 word hand-written article, and that's only 7 paragraphs and 6-8 sentence variations. After hand spinning it is up to 7000 words. At this rate if I wrote some of the 20 paragraph, 15 replacement monsters you guys are talking about I'd have to write 20,000 words and end up with 37,000 words after hand spinning. Every possible combination reads great (I don't just pick random things from the rapid spinner), but the thought of doing that crushes my soul.

In another thread Expertpeon said he was only writing about 4000 words for these cubes so I feel like I'm missing something. Due to the financial nature of my current site mine start with the quality of content I'd put on my site, so that may be it.

As an aside, I'm testing outsourcing some work to TCA but this is expensive and, like Expertpeon, I'm a content nazi and the results are not likely meet my quality expectations.

One of the first things you need to remember is that you will instantly gain massively more permutations when you add spintax to the sentences. I know Expertpeon isn't keen on this often, as it can reduce quality; but it doesn't have to make a large difference. There are plenty of words in the English language that have several straightforward meanings, especially adjectives and adverbs, and adding 4 spins of 5 parts of a sentence massively adds to the variation from the unique content perspective, and gets you far more permutations.

Sentence spinning is essential, as these rewrites are what make it really read differently to a human. And the paragraph reordering changes the overall structure to make it feel even more different. But it's the spintax in the sentence that really beefs up permutations in an efficient way. Just doing those 4 spins of 5 parts will increase the permutations by a thousand fold for that sentence, and that multiplies out with sentence rewrites.

I personally believe that your best content goes on your sites. The next best content goes on 2.0's and the next best on articles, and finally, junk content for wiki's or places that you know will 99% delete you anyway within 4-8 weeks (and you just want the temporary kick or indexing effect.)

Don't be a complete content snobb at the detriment of your business. Remember what each part is supposed to do.

But your overall workflow is fine, and the most important factor is that it works for you, inside the timescales you have available.

Expertpeon said:

It's amazing, at least for feeder articles. Again I would avoid direct to site links in this manner, it reads ok, but it's not too big of a deal to do an article the more TRADITIONAL way
I consider these articles I create for each niche, to be master articles.
They ...don't have a place linking directly to money sites. Though I intend to try doing just that with them soon, and see what happens. I have a lot on my plate right now I have to split test

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Epertpeon - Did you ever test linking these uber-spun articles directly to your money site?

Thanks.

jascoken said:

I personally believe that your best content goes on your sites. The next best content goes on 2.0's and the next best on articles, and finally, junk content for wiki's or places that you know will 99% delete you anyway within 4-8 weeks (and you just want the temporary kick or indexing effect.)

Don't be a complete content snobb at the detriment of your business. Remember what each part is supposed to do.

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I've been working with these "generalized" constructs a lot lately, actually in one niche producing 8 of these master articles various ways.

The content is highly readable if done like the above, and it's also fast to construct (relatively for how long it lasts). I feel, now that I've used these enough, that this is just fine for tier 1 web 2.0s if you're careful on construction. However there are other reasons to make manual, highly readable content of course
If you consider each sentence in each position to be its own permutation (which I believe you should consider as unique to a degree), it should go from 3 options/paragraph, to 30 just by adding another 11-15 sentence paragraph That's just at the sentence location level. So this has been what I've done recently. By creating 6 sets of 11-15 sentences, all interchangeable, and only taking 3 sentences out of it (so that each sentence has an equal shot at each location #1, #2, #3 etc) you wind up with a much more unique construct.

This content's been quite good for web 2.0s in readability.

Expertpeon said:

If you consider each sentence in each position to be its own permutation (which I believe you should consider as unique to a degree), it should go from 3 options/paragraph, to 30 just by adding another 11-15 sentence paragraph That's just at the sentence location level. So this has been what I've done recently. By creating 6 sets of 11-15 sentences, all interchangeable, and only taking 3 sentences out of it (so that each sentence has an equal shot at each location #1, #2, #3 etc) you wind up with a much more unique construct.

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So, if I understand correctly, each paragraph construct consists of 6 sets of 11-15 sentences? If not, please explain the paragraph construct.

Thanks.

danny1 said:

So, if I understand correctly, each paragraph construct consists of 6 sets of 11-15 sentences? If not, please explain the paragraph construct.

Thanks.

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6 sets of 11-15 sentences, all interchangeable, and it creates a 3 sentence paragraph.

Has anyone had luck in outsourcing the creation of their ubercubez? If so, can you provide details about where you found your writers and how much it cost?

I've tried making ubercubez on my own, but I have to be the slowest writer on the face of the Earth and spending several days on this project just doesn't seem like the best use of time.

Thanks for any recommendations!

Zipper, I would be interested in the same if you have luck. I can do it but I'm just too busy with other stuff..

Looks like Expertpeon has gone and left us.

What makes ubbertoolz better than thebestspinner?

moonlighsunligh said:

What makes ubbertoolz better than thebestspinner?

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I suggest reading some more. Two completely different tools. They are used together

How is it possible to have interchangeable sentence sets inside one paragraph. In this case there all these sentences should be independent of each other but all related to paragraphs subtopic. I am not sure how doable is it, but i will try.

What do i mean by independent sentences sentences. You cannot say.

keyword .... rest of sentence 1. It is bla bla ,,, but
keyword .... rest of sentence 1. Keyword is bla bla ,,,

Actually you cannot use any pronoun at the begging of any sentence. If a sentence has pronouns or other words such as because .. it isn't idenpendent. I think one way to archive what we want, is to use longer sentence, while another would be to use 2 sentences.


I think if you have interchangeable sentences, then you do not need that many replacements. Because it is better to have unique senteces, than bunch sentences that say the same thing. I realise it is far easier to create sentences that have the same meaning,

I have read it and i far as i got, it is a tool that can help to even more randomize content by randomly selecting x out of y sentences and then moving them around. It does the same on paragraph level. All that is done without any sentence paragraph duplication.

I do not completely understand what is expertpeon doing. If he write 15 paragraphs and for each paragraph he uses 3 out of 6 sentences, providing he do 15 sentences replacement then he actually has 15 000 words article before word/paragraph spinning. 30K after.

To write 30 articles you probably need 2 days. To spin by word phrase you need 2-3 days. Time you need for grammar check is included. So it is 5 days work for the best spinned article ever. It should contain around 30K words. I found that if you want article to be readable word count for an article increases just by 2 after word/phrase spin.

I am pretty slower, i have done 10K words after spinning in 5 days. So something like this would probably take ~ 10 days to do.

Sounds interesting, I'll definitely give this a go. Are people using TBS in conjunction with this process or something else?

Also Expertpeon, tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

Hey guys I have been using Ubertoolz for 5 months now and Expertpeon goes to the extreme as he should as he plays at a level that I do not play in yet. His niches are highly competitive and he uses custom tools to create hundreds if not thousands of tier 1 properties backed up by thousands more tiers 2's and so on.

I play in medium comp niches and dont need to go that heavy but I will explain the basic premise and answer some questions.

1st off, Ubertoolz has MANY tools that can be used. The Ubercubz is one of about 15 I think. I also use the link coder where I plug in a url and Keywrod or keywords and it spits out a spun "author bio box" with the html needed to plug into a tool in order to mass post.

It has an article spinner built in and I dont even own another spinner, it produces a very light spin and have heard that it is comprable to "best" quality in TBS. With the Pro membership you get FREE content that you can spin and use on your tiers, it has a WP management panel meaning you can export your content to any number of WP sites you have with one click, it has a panel where you can do the same with Tumblr too.

It also has an article combiner/spinner where you can just copy/paste 5 or 6 articles into the tool and it spins the article into 1 of how may paragraphs you choose, which then you can put through the spinning tool to get the word level spins you want.

But the best tool is in fact the Ubercubz in my opinion. You all seem to have the concept of what it does on a basic level so let me explain in more detail so you can understand a bit better.

You basically write an article and then add variations of each sentence to be used in your spin, depending on how many substitute sentence you write you can create hundreds of unique articles.

For example here is one sentence with some variations-
I like making money online, because I get to work from home.
Making money from home became easy when I learned to do it online.
Read this article to learn how easy it is to make money online from the comfort of your own home.

Now when I enter the correct spyntax the tool will randomly pick 1 of these 3 sentences to use in any article I make. Now assume you have 10 paragraphs with 5 sentences in each paragraph, it will do this for each sentence. But it has even more functionality, you can select how many paragraphs you want to use, so using the example above let say I only need to use 5 paragraphs it will randomly pick 5 of the 10 paragraphs to use. Even more is it will place the paragraphs in random order!!! What this means is that each article will read totally different even though the topic is the same. If you are just doing a handful of Web 2.0's for instance you may not even have to word level spin the content leading to human readable and totally unique content in 90% of the cases.

But you can also spin at word level and even character level if you want to build another tier effectively turning 1 uber article into hundreds of copyscape passed copies. The more properties you want to build the more sentence variations you will want to use and if you want to look "White hat" just dont word or character spin and you have a pretty good reading article without the strange outputs you sometimes get when you spin.

Hopefully this answered a few questions, it is well worth the $$$ and you will be very happy you decided to go that route once you try it.

I use Ultra Spinnable Articles by The Leading Articles, and Article Builder by Jon Ledger (TBS creator).

Why should I use UberToolz for spinning?

Mex-deluxe said:

I use Ultra Spinnable Articles by The Leading Articles, and Article Builder by Jon Ledger (TBS creator).

Why should I use UberToolz for spinning?

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It's not so much about using it for "spinning" per se, it's about building the construct with the UberCubz module as Getwhatchuwant described above. I'm positive you can (and should) use a better "word spinner" from somewhere else (or there's isn't bad by any means), but NOBODY and I mean NOBODY can even come close to giving you what they can with UberCubz. If you can't wrap your head around that go watch the video and then ask questions. I'm sure one of us will answer them for you.

I'll sum it up for you like this:
How about if I told you could spend one day writing content for a site, and then for the rest of the life of that site you will ALWAYS have unique content available for you to use anywhere (on or off the site). Do you think that's a fair trade off? THAT's the kind of power this product provides. I'm sure not everyone uses it to THAT level, but oh HELL YEAH you absolutely can. I know that's what I'm doing

Run, don't walk, to the order form...

Good luck,
Con

Hi Getwhatchuwant,

I just bought this service yesterday - I've been playing around with it for a few hours and I'm struggling a bit to get my head round it - were you able to find any decent online support anywhere when you started ? The website did have a forum, but it's been taken down ( ironically) because of spamming ! I've watched the demo videos which give a decent overview, but I would love to see a full worked example.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Pat

BrokerPat said:

Hi Getwhatchuwant,

I just bought this service yesterday - I've been playing around with it for a few hours and I'm struggling a bit to get my head round it - were you able to find any decent online support anywhere when you started ? The website did have a forum, but it's been taken down ( ironically) because of spamming ! I've watched the demo videos which give a decent overview, but I would love to see a full worked example.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Pat

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I'm not Getwhatchuwant, but I have used the service.

There is guidance on each of the pages, e.g. the following pages guide you on the Ubertoolz spintax constructs:
You can always try contacting jascoken who has a sales thread on BHW.

Although creating the Ubertoolz type spun constructs can make things easier to work with, I cancelled my subscription because I could do the same work with other tools, and you still have to do the grunt work of the content creation for the spinning. No tool can automate the creation of 'quality' spun content.

Hi Danny,

Thanks for the reply.
I had already already looked at the links on the main site - What I don't understand is how to put things like "vary the number of times an image will show in a post" or "sometimes use a video" ie what are the html commands for this , and can I put those commands directly into the ubercubez module or do I need to add them later , possibly via TBS?

I would ideally like to produce one hyper spun article which produces millions of articles which sometimes have images or videos or different text or bolding etc as well as different sentence and paragraph structuring.

I contacted the Ubertoolz admin and was advised to have a go, trial and error etc, which is fine really, but if there's anyone out there who's already done the blundering about and is willing to pass on some tips, I'd be most grateful.

Cheers

Pat