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Consistency SEO And Staying Ranked

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by AceCanoe, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. AceCanoe

    AceCanoe Registered Member

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    I don't even know if this is a real thing or if it's been talked about before but I would like to talk about staying consistent and doing SEO.

    Alright so last summer, I've bought a lot of link packages here in the market place and I was trying to rank a medium-high competitive niche (Gaming). I've only came as far to reach just page 4. I saw myself investing a lot and I kind of just stopped building links. Just a month ago I was nowhere on the SERPS for this site and I recently built some Tumblr's and it went back to page 5 and now page 4 again.

    What would you guys recommend so you don't get your site pushed down in the serps? It's hard to stay consistent when building links when you have multiple sites that you're working on.

    But would it be something like this?

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    To keep your ranks and to get to page 1, do you have to be building links back to your money site continuously, day after day to eventually reach page 1 and to keep that top position? I'm frustrated about this because it seems quite complicated, especially if you're trying to focus on multiple sites and I know that you can't use one pbn for multiple money sites or it will be a foot print.

    So do I have to invest over one hundred PBN domains (expired domains) and just have those for one of my money sites? Then invest over one hundred again for my other money site? Or am I over complicating things?

    I just want to reach page 1 for the site I have been working extremely hard and it seems like forever on. But I feel like I can't use the link packages I invested in here before because they are pretty expensive especially if I'd be investing into those everyday/weekly for my money sites so they will continue to climb up the serps and to eventually reach page 1.

    What are your thoughts on staying consistent with SEO and staying ranked/not losing your ranks? Do you never stop building links/buying expired domains for them? Also, do you link back to multiple of your money sites with 1 pbn or would that be too risky?

    It'd be cool if anybody could add to this or input their recommendations so it doesn't seem that complicated when trying to look at the big picture.
    Ace
     
  2. stack paper

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  3. yugejackpots

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    Penguin 4 definitely likes consistency / steady velocity. Just have to find a way to keep it up.
     
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  4. gman777

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    You're not ranking because:
    -You picked a way too competitive keyword
    -You're penalized due to on-page keyword density over-optimization/ off-page anchor optimization
    -You suck at SEO(no offence intended)

    It looks like you did only hard work, but no smart work.
    And no, you don't need to build links continuously, although it won't harm either.
     
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  5. aidenhera

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    regular grow is the best man, you cant just throw links in january and february, get rank on first page, then leave the links till december
    no steady backlink income = u are buying links
    no steady content growth = u left the site

    @gman777 yes it will hurt
     
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  6. AceCanoe

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    I am currently building my own PBN, I was just wondering if I have to build a massive PBN per each money site that I have.

    What's wrong with choosing competitive keywords? Maybe my keyword wasn't competitive 5 months ago but now it is.

    I'm no way penalized though. My on-page is pretty decent. I made sure I followed some important guides here and some good advice I got from some friends for my on-page and anchor text.

    I'm not sure if I suck at SEO, that should have nothing to do with anything, there's always going to be people better than you at something.

    I am pretty sure I'm not ranked first page because:
    - I am not building consistent links (with link juice)
    - I recently purchased a powerful GSA blast to my site (one of my competitors did this a couple months ago, I'm not sure if it's dead though but I went up 9 positions in the serps then back down the day after. So I don't know if that's going against me.
    - I did not do any back-linking from my PBN domains to this site. It's only received web 2.0's that I purchased blasts to these past 2 months.

    Yeah, that makes sense. Would it actually hurt my rankings if I stopped updating the site? I know a few sites in my niche that don't update their site and they are still ranking first page. I feel like it's more about how much powerful links you have going into your money site then updating it with content.
     
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    there are million factors. maybe your competitor is not updating anything but he was steady backlinking since last months. maybe his backlinks are good. sometimes theres nothing to write more about, so you leave content as it is, depending on niche. You should do everything as good as you can, because in case you have worse on-page and off-page seo than your competitor, it wont hurt if you will be better than him in other ranking factors
     
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    I see this a lot. It is common for websites to focus too much on backlinks (a.k.a. authority) and quality (a.k.a. visitor satisfaction) and then totally neglect relevance (a.k.a. the fundamental things that let you rank for a keyword algorithmically ) ...

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf–idf


    Term frequency is at the heart of most relevance algorithms. The degree of term frequency you need is an arms race. It is dictated by your competitors for the search term.

    If you have the backlinks and the quality and are stuck on page 4 then you need to measure what your competitors have on page that you don't. I'd wager what you find there is an amount of using your target terms on page that will drastically increase your term frequency and your relevance.

    :)
     
  9. yugejackpots

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    Actually you do need to build links somewhat continuously in Penguin 4, in particular to sites made after Penguin 4. However it could just be in my market. Because I only compete in hyper-competitive markets.
     
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    If you have budget to maintain your own 100 PBN , you should think of this seriously. It really works