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CNN: Facebook to recognize faces, help tag photos

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by Money Man, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. Money Man

    Money Man Elite Member

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    The photo verification method is about to get a little bit more tricky (not to mention a lot better for FB). Possibly, soon they will have this verification method on lock and the photo verification will be the only method of unlocking a roadblocked account. They are clearly not giving up on this method.

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    We will see...
     
  2. Money Man

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    Also, this will fix the generic photos (Mafia Wars, FarmVille, etc.) that currently plague the photo verification method which makes it impossible for real FB users to recover their account.

    Furthermore, this is just another breach of user privacy that FB is willing to cross. Who the hell wants FB to be able to recognize them automatically in their own photos? Of course, FB will build a huge database of users, their first and last names, and their faces to get this accomplished (plus so much more).

    This just goes to prove my point when I say I seriously think "Google Me" will take over FB with ease. FB obviously is not interested in stopping the blatant breaching of their users' privacy rights ever, and I am telling you, Google is going to crush them on this matter alone. IMHO, Google will be able to come up with a convincing marketing strategy to piss off enough FB users due to their privacy rights being violated time and time again. Just watch how Google pulls this off. FB is stupid!
     
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  3. werrich

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    this sounds a bit too much like big brother!

     
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    Well you look who its run by, and 20 something year old kid who doesn't have a board of directors to answer to, thinks he can do just about anything, and basically thinks he can change users view of privacy.

    Contrast that to say Google, who can catalog every search term you typed for at least
    2+ years, and has way more information about you. But is smart about how they treat privacy, and atleast puts on a gameface when talking to the media. Sure Google has had monumental privacy screwups, but they are always quick to say they messed up and make the changes.

    Contrast that with Zuckerbrook. Who just say, oh yeah.. "we are facebook, we will do anything we please"
     
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    Then you factor in his caviler attitude towards privacy & those leaked Zuckerberg IM's. They way the company was founded (he hacked Harvard servers) and he also stole the idea from connectu dot com and delayed their project. He does think he change privacy norms. It is a big brotherish.

    Thanks for the post OP keep us updated. So this completly kills fake accounts w/ pics?

    PS. I never had a FB & I never will.
     
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  6. highrider778

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    this won't do shit. it says it'll be used to tagging friends.
    Also, who the hell's gonna know who is who, with what face and photo?
    FB have a database of everyone in the world? hell no, don't be stupid people, this won't have anything to do with accts being banned.....fb has too much going for it right now to piss off all it's users...which it will do soon enough anyway, but they won't do anything to speed up the process

    FB is damn near dead with the over heightened security I've noticed recently, if users think ur a fake, ur acct's gonna be banned anyway.

    FB=Gay
     
  7. Money Man

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    It definitely sounds like big brother!


    I completely agree with you; this Zuckerberg kid thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants and get away with it. He is no match for Google (just watch).


    I agree with you as well. To answer your question: no, this will not kill fake accounts. Always keep your accounts tied to an exclusive proxy. No more than 5 proxies per account, or 2-3 to be extra safe. However, you can still face roadblocks due to wall posting and other BlackHat activities (even if you do keep your accounts tied to exclusive proxies at all times).


    I am sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you my man. Yes, it will be used to tag friends, at least that is what FB wants you to believe. There is no doubt it will do this, but it will also do so much more. I do not think you understand what is going on here. They are designing an algorithm that is going to be able to recognize their users from their photos, and tag them accordingly. How could they do this without creating a database? As far as your statement goes about "if users think you are fake you are going to be banned anyway" - I beg to differ. I have been wall posting with 100 fake accounts for the past four months...blatantly fake accounts, mind you, and only a handful of them have been disabled within this four month period. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, because I do have a pretty unique wall posting method that I have been using. Furthermore, my point is that everyone knows that these accounts are fake, but they have not been banned (only a handful have been banned within a four month period). You would think they would have been banned by now due to FB users reporting them as fakes, but once again, they have not. Lastly, I run my wall poster 24/7.

    No, FB will not have a database of everyone in the world. However, they definitely have a database of all of their users! If this was not the case, their platform could not run, and FB would cease to exist. Furthermore, we all know they collect way too much information and store it in their various databases. They have also been caught sharing this information with third parties without the user's explicit permission!

    This will definitely help improve their photo verification method; how could it not? My advice to you is not to be "stupid" and believe FB's front that all they are going to be doing with this is tagging friends, and the fact that they will not have to create a database in order to get this done. As I said, they already have various databases containing information about ALL of their users. If they did not, FB would cease to exist. I am suggesting all of this in a respective manner, so please do not take what I am suggesting the wrong way.

    Let me quote someone who left a comment on the CNN article...

    But hey, do not be stupid people, this does not mean anything! [/sarcasm]

    It is a well known fact that police cruisers are equipped with the type of technology that the guy is mentioning in the above quote. Guess what it is called!? Optical Character Recognition! Yes, the same OCR that captchas are based off of, except these are real-life images. I know the police cruisers in my city are DEFINITELY equipped with this technology, and its primary purpose is to scan and detect vehicle's license plates that have been reported as stolen. Do a Google search on this, and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

    Once again, there is no reason to worry people! It is not like FB would ever fathom sharing this database (or any of their other databases for that matter) with anybody in the wildest dreams! After all, their Privacy Policy is top-notch and they have never been caught sharing user data without the user's explicit permission! [/sarcasm]

    There have also been reports that FB is affiliated with the C*I*A. Now, I am not so sure I believe this, but here is a link to a YouTube video (you can decide for yourself)...

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    h**p://w*ww*youtu*be*c*om/wa*tch?v=KpLN*lSKugHw
    Also, if you did not know, FB just hired a White House Adviser (which makes the YouTube video above a little bit more believable)...

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    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365679,00.asp
    Once again people, do not be stupid, there is no reason to worry! It is not like FB would ever share any type of information they collect from their users (without the user's consent). [/sarcasm]

    highrider778:
    Please do not take my sarcasm seriously. I only used it to better prove my point, and I am respectfully disagreeing with you.
     
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  8. BedokBlau

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    They're digging themselves into a really big hole and someone hit the nail on the head - you've got a young guy at the helm who thinks he can just do what he wants so there's also no signs of this craziness easing up. At the end of the day, it's going to come down to either someone knocking them from their top slot OR users getting so angry that things need to change. I don't the user anger will be the catalyst though.
     
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    My advice is instead of complaining about facebook try to make money. People keep talking about the collateral damage associated with photo verification, but so far there is isn't the slightest inkling of outrage over the blogosphere about innocent people being locked out of their accounts or having their data logged, so i doubt facebook is going to backtrack on this.
     
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    i hope this stupid photo verification method will be suspended by facebook soon
     
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    Ive never used a real picture as my Facebook Avatar, it looks like this method will only apply to people who do things which get their account linked to spam.
     
  12. blackheader

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    Well, there is a way to bypass the photo verification method:


    1. go to your profile´s URL in another browser
    2. click "show all" in the left section where your friends are displayed
    3. copy & paste all your friends into a word doc
    4. search for the pictures and find the names for those people
    Thats a real pain to do that, but if you have a very important account its worth it. (you will have to invest some time though, ...)
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    I´m really looking forward that Google is introducing his own social network. Not because I like Google, but I think it will be interesting to see how many people are totally annoyed from facebook (I think there are a lot, but there is no alternative atm, so they have to stay).

    It would be even better for google if facebook attempts to let every account be verified by the photo method, because that will make people go nuts over there ;-)
    Even I don´t know all names (surname + forename) exactly on my real profile, even though I have mostly added just friends. BUT I think chances are very low that Facebook would be soo stupid! Furthermore, I also think that they must realize that of all those 400,000,000 profiles are lots of profiles that were created by people that wanted to have a second accound, wanted to get rid of their old account, internet marketers, an army of eWhorez and other sorts of people.
     
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  13. LordSwarovski

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    so what will that mean for my real account that has no pictures on it?
     
  14. bpicks

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    I welcome this. It will create an easier way to make money if it's not opt-in per user. I can just say someone uploaded an old photo of me, the recognition software automatically tagged me doing a keg stand and a prospective employer led me to the photo, explaining it was the reason I didn't get the job. I sue facebook for doing this automatically and costing me my future salary plus pain and suffering since I was not the one who uploaded the photo.
     
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    What I want to know is, why a bunch of people on this forum, including a mod who had a chip on his sholder critisized the hell out of M. Midget about this exact subject when he brought it up some time ago?!......