justthinking
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What? You must be one of the teenagers at BHW because that didn't make any sense to me at all. Are your two 'selves' fighting for control of your parents keyboard? What are you talking about?
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Closing Off BHW From The World
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SunTzuX
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- Sep 15, 2008
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Here's my thought for whatever its worth.
I voted no to closing the website off and making it entirely paid.
I personally have no problem with paying $10 or $20 month. This community is awesome and would be worth it.
But as others have pointed out there is a risk. I'm sure a lot of the eventual donors and heavy contributors on this site would have never joined if they had to pay up front. Someone said that by being a new member, they learn the tricks of the trade, and are eventually able to contribute. The cycle of noobness in all things.
What about a tiered system?
I'm a paid member on a forum for domian names. They have a silver level for all unpaid visitors, a gold for like $40 or 50, plat for like $100 and an exclusive for $400.
In their case its a lifetime membership, but that could still help to add privacy in certain areas. In their forum there is still a trickle down effect of information so new members do get something, but are also encouraged to upgrade for the better information, networking with people who take things more seriously, get the latest tools, etc.
I voted no to closing the website off and making it entirely paid.
I personally have no problem with paying $10 or $20 month. This community is awesome and would be worth it.
But as others have pointed out there is a risk. I'm sure a lot of the eventual donors and heavy contributors on this site would have never joined if they had to pay up front. Someone said that by being a new member, they learn the tricks of the trade, and are eventually able to contribute. The cycle of noobness in all things.
What about a tiered system?
I'm a paid member on a forum for domian names. They have a silver level for all unpaid visitors, a gold for like $40 or 50, plat for like $100 and an exclusive for $400.
In their case its a lifetime membership, but that could still help to add privacy in certain areas. In their forum there is still a trickle down effect of information so new members do get something, but are also encouraged to upgrade for the better information, networking with people who take things more seriously, get the latest tools, etc.
ernesthemingway
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- Oct 5, 2008
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Do what is good for BHW community.
onelifeaway
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- Dec 5, 2008
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I just wanted to say that I am glad it is free because that is how I found out some of the amazing info on here, but I would TOTALLY pay for it now that I know the power of these forums.
I just want to say hi and that I hope to learn a lot and contribute a lot to everyone as well. I hope to become a Donor soon!
Quick question... Where should I ask about my monetary input I am getting from IM? I would like to know if it is high or low for my first year doing this... Thanks!
I just want to say hi and that I hope to learn a lot and contribute a lot to everyone as well. I hope to become a Donor soon!
Quick question... Where should I ask about my monetary input I am getting from IM? I would like to know if it is high or low for my first year doing this... Thanks!
vivalafeva
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- Sep 16, 2008
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try the blackhat lounge onelifeaway
blackhat_ecom
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- Dec 4, 2008
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I think this should be a only for people who are making donations or purchase a membership. after all if you are serious about what you are doing, then this is a small fee to pay.
xplicit
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- Jul 21, 2008
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I have seen about 5 replies on this thread alone that tells us we need to close the doors and even throw some people out.
And is it me or is there more newbs coming in and wrecking this board even more. I say if something dont happen soon, we wont be any better than DP, We all say they were a pretty good board a few years ago, Dont let us go down like that. To many newcomers are getting away with BS crap.
And is it me or is there more newbs coming in and wrecking this board even more. I say if something dont happen soon, we wont be any better than DP, We all say they were a pretty good board a few years ago, Dont let us go down like that. To many newcomers are getting away with BS crap.
apekillape
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- Dec 13, 2007
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Your assumption is probably wrong and stupid.
You CAN see the breakdown here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/forum-suggestions-feedback/poll-182-a.html
Rough estimate before the colors make my eyes bleed:
YES, close
1 mod
5 Exec
60ish Jr.
NO, stay free
2 Admin
1 Mod
11 Exec
50 Jr.
Maybe you should stop justthinking and start justdoing. I don't believe thinking is your niche.
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xplicit
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- Jul 21, 2008
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Dang, Who pee pee'd in your cheerios. Wheres the lurve people whers the lurve
aliskorn
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- Apr 21, 2008
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Haha,good one ape,just as I started counting the members. Yes actually the most senior members voted for bhw to stay open.
glew
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- Feb 10, 2008
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I might as well get my 2 cents in. As you can see I am sort of a noob, by post count anyway. That is for good reason and this is not it- no offense tigerthebigcat-
What a load of bullsh%t!!! This is no excuse for the numerous idiotic and repetitive questions asked lately. Take some freakin initiative and figure shit out on your own! You know the very first thing I learned here...learn a scripting language, so i'm learning php. I'm trying to write my own scripts and soon i'll be good enough to help out others, but until then I study my ass off! Here's a thought site:blackhatworld.com "cookie stuffing" did you ever think of running that through google? 730 results on my screen. Somehow I doubt it!
I personally don't want to be spoonfed stuff, I want to learn it for myself. Everyone here has 24 hours in a day and if this is what you want to do then YOU MAKE THE TIME TO LEARN! Why sleep when I could be writing my own scraper or url harvester. When I learn enough to throw up a thread about how to "Make $250 a day in thirty minutes" I will, but until then I know to keep my mouth shut and hit the books! Just because I can't do it today doesn't give me an excuse to bring down this great forum by asking stupid questions. That's what people around here expect!
If I have to pay $10, $20 or $50 I'll be the guy on the side of the road collecting bottles and cans if I have to make that money because what I've learned here is Priceless!
What a load of bullsh%t!!! This is no excuse for the numerous idiotic and repetitive questions asked lately. Take some freakin initiative and figure shit out on your own! You know the very first thing I learned here...learn a scripting language, so i'm learning php. I'm trying to write my own scripts and soon i'll be good enough to help out others, but until then I study my ass off! Here's a thought site:blackhatworld.com "cookie stuffing" did you ever think of running that through google? 730 results on my screen. Somehow I doubt it!
I personally don't want to be spoonfed stuff, I want to learn it for myself. Everyone here has 24 hours in a day and if this is what you want to do then YOU MAKE THE TIME TO LEARN! Why sleep when I could be writing my own scraper or url harvester. When I learn enough to throw up a thread about how to "Make $250 a day in thirty minutes" I will, but until then I know to keep my mouth shut and hit the books! Just because I can't do it today doesn't give me an excuse to bring down this great forum by asking stupid questions. That's what people around here expect!
If I have to pay $10, $20 or $50 I'll be the guy on the side of the road collecting bottles and cans if I have to make that money because what I've learned here is Priceless!
krilin50
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- Oct 26, 2008
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I have also voted no, but my main concern is the quality of the forum, with more and more members everything becomes chaotic, so it might be better to pay a small annual fee provided that the quality of the postings, and the software available improves. in any case it's up to everyone's votes...
Thanks for asking user's opinions, nice touch .
Thanks for asking user's opinions, nice touch .
aмillionaírе
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chicco0278
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- Mar 28, 2008
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Keep it open.
I totally agree with Essential Clix
To me his idea is the way to go!
Chicco
I totally agree with Essential Clix
To me his idea is the way to go!
Chicco
KennWort
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- Apr 1, 2008
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Whew!
10 pages and growing. I'm not going to even try to count the number of unique
replies, because that's actually quite pointless. A couple of posts rated a Thanks
button push, a few others got a "hover" over the button.
New blood is what makes things "interesting" and entertaining. That's not to say
that the "veterans" are lacking in interesting and entertaining by any means. To
close off the influx of new ideas and techniques would probably not be a good
thing.
What do I think? Leave BHW open. Add some more moderators. Experiment a bit
with the "exam" idea for new sign-ups. Somebody mentioned proving the ability
to use the search function as a qualifier.
I really enjoy my time here, when I can stop by. I like to help where I can.
Ultimately, whatever the decision is, I really hope it is one that is good for the
"community".
KW
P.S. One last thing. Thanks to all who do contribute, and to those who make
BHW a great place to be a part of. You know who you are...
10 pages and growing. I'm not going to even try to count the number of unique
replies, because that's actually quite pointless. A couple of posts rated a Thanks
button push, a few others got a "hover" over the button.
New blood is what makes things "interesting" and entertaining. That's not to say
that the "veterans" are lacking in interesting and entertaining by any means. To
close off the influx of new ideas and techniques would probably not be a good
thing.
What do I think? Leave BHW open. Add some more moderators. Experiment a bit
with the "exam" idea for new sign-ups. Somebody mentioned proving the ability
to use the search function as a qualifier.
I really enjoy my time here, when I can stop by. I like to help where I can.
Ultimately, whatever the decision is, I really hope it is one that is good for the
"community".
KW
P.S. One last thing. Thanks to all who do contribute, and to those who make
BHW a great place to be a part of. You know who you are...
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I think it should be a combination of free and paid. You need open access areas to get people involved and interested and then hopefully "upsell" them on a "membership". There is alot of great info here.
For those that say they couldnt do a monthly fee, are you kidding me? He said a small fee like $9. If you took 1% of what you can learn here you will make that in no time.
For those that say they couldnt do a monthly fee, are you kidding me? He said a small fee like $9. If you took 1% of what you can learn here you will make that in no time.
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