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Clickbank scamming IM newbies???

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by ronijs, Mar 19, 2011.

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  1. ronijs

    ronijs Registered Member

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    Take a look at E-business & E-marketing section in Clickbank!
    All Top 10 products (Popularity/Gravity) are SECRET MAGIC SOFTWARE, THAT MAKES THOUSANDS A DAY IN AUTOPILOT WITH JUST 7 CLICKS OF MOUSE!

    But this is bullshit! With methods they sell, nobody makes money (maybe little) and with 7 clicks??? Why clickbank allows such a products? Need to ban these peoples forever, who selling that shit again and again! Thousands of newbies get scammed just by emotional sales video!

    For newbies - never ever buy any of these magic secret softwares! They even not worth for free!
     
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  2. lmaestro

    lmaestro Power Member

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    They can always refund :)
     
  3. cbnoob

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    get rid of all the hype and you will find something usable, especially for newbie. Sadly, almost newbies want to get big result fast and fall into the gurus' traps
     
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    Rightly said. Nowadays, a lot of crap softwares and ebooks are being sold are CB, but hey there are some gems as well like fatcat Adsense course
     
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    I think it's part of everyone's journey to IM success - spend money on some crappy ebooks and magic software and learn to recognize them. That's how newbies gain experience :)
     
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    As long as those pages have a disclaimer page they will have the right to sell anything :)

    But yeah I agree, I got disturbed by the 7 click thing as well when I first saw it.
     
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    I haven't seen this 7 clicks crap or care much about it, but wanted to know if fatcat Adsense course is really worth something or you're just kidding?
     
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    To most Internet Marketing newbies, the information is new. To us, it seems a travesty because we all have that information for free here.
     
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    That's what differentiates newbies and gurus. Newbies go for make-quick-cash products; gurus know better.
     
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    MAKES THOUSANDS A DAY IN AUTOPILOT WITH JUST 7 CLICKS OF MOUSE!

    because they are involved in selling software for a few dollars. It is best used to gain a lot XD
     
  11. brent360

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    It's not a scam so much as it is hype and effective promotion. Even the valuable products have to employ these tactics or else they just won't sell. Word-of-mouth marketing and high-quality products are important, but you need something to seed the snowball and keep it rolling during times of buyer famine. It's just a fact of life.

    Think about it from a vendor's perspective: They can market their product with tons of hype and excitement, or they can promote it with a simple text page explaining what it does in very literal terms. Most "IM newbies" won't even understand the terminology used to explain what a product does, but they'll understand "YOU CAN DO ALL THIS GREAT STUFF AS AN END-RESULT!" Every company does it--it's just about shedding the best light on your product as you possibly can.

    The vendors have already created their product, so it really comes down to their marketing decisions. For them, it's like choosing between less sales and more sales--and obviously everyone is going to pick "more sales".
     
  12. ronijs

    ronijs Registered Member

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    Ok, but vendors are still lying! I bet, that even creator of software is not making 1/10 of what he promises that you will earn! OBVIOUS SCAM!
     
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  13. brent360

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    There's a good chance that the vendor is making exactly what he promises you'll earn. One thing that took me a while to learn was to take the important principles away from a product or service and to leave the stuff that didn't matter (the hype, the filler). Some eBooks can be summarized in a five-point bulleted list, but that doesn't make them any less valuable if you can adequately synthesize the important info from the finished product.

    A scam? Not necessarily--but maybe some clever emphasis for the sake of promotion. Learning to sort the diamonds from the sand is a skill that every good Internet Marketer has to learn in order to be successful. The ones who don't learn it are slow-moving targets for rip-off artists.
     
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    Bingo.

    Over the short term, most/all of them are. I've even known of some who DOWNPLAY how much can be made, because their actual numbers seem too unrealistic ($30K+ a day).

    Now, some of them are posting short-term numbers ... they might make $X,XXX a day, but not for more than a couple weeks. I've personally logged into someone's vendor account, and they had a six-figure day ... it was day 1 of their launch.

    It's not what they say that is deceptive. It's what they omit. When someone says "make $3,427.89 a day with just thirteen clicks!!!" that could mean that you set up a traffic generation software, and after months or a year of gathering leads, you send out blast email (which copy/paste could be 13 clicks, I suppose) to a shit ton of people, you might see money.

    So, it's not what they tell you that is a lie. It's what they don't tell you, which means technically, they aren't lying, which is why the FTC doesn't shut them down within hours of going up.

    It's hype. The sooner you learn how to understand hype for what it is, the sooner you leave "newbie" status in IM.
     
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    VERY well said.

    Same applies to things like PLR/MRR products or "rehashed" methods. To a newbie who hasn't learned it yet, it can be valuable, regardless of how it's packaged, so long as it still works in the market.

    If I sell a "make money as a Clickbank vendor" product, and someone buys it who hasn't bought one before, the information is no less valuable just because they could have found it in 18 other places, and even for free if they searched the web hard enough.
     
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    Most of the time the more something is claimed to work, the less it does.

    I've never seen an add claiming you can write many pages using MS Word. Why? Because you can actually do that with it.

    But it's not CBs fault, it is everywhere actually.
     
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    IM is all about hype. Hype is like a misleading newspaper headline stretched to a long ass sales copy.
     
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    The good thing is that the 60 day money back guarantee is there. However, what is sold in those ebooks with other software cannot make the kind of money shown on the sales pages. That is where the problem lies.
     
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    not too sure what clickbank is about?
     
  20. OTrap

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    Actually, many of them can, if scaled properly.

    That doesn't apply COMPLETELY across the board. For example, if an ebook teaches how to make money by handwriting articles, then there simply aren't enough hours in a day.

    However, if the ebook is about building a list and emailing, then the longer you build the list, and the bigger the list gets, the closer a person can get to that mark.

    Like I said, I've logged into some absurd Clickbank accounts, and the numbers are actually DOWNPLAYED for sales pitches, because the thought was that the true amounts would be too unrealistic.

    It's easy to dismiss, because that's the common reaction, but the truth is, some of the "methods" explained work. And given time, they can often produce the desired results.

    As far as the "you could start seeing income in an hour from now" pitches, I agree that those are a little shady, as time and learning curve rarely allows for those kinds of results.
     
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