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Class C ips?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by smileplease, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. smileplease

    smileplease Regular Member

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    Why would you need more class C ips?
    i don't get it
     
  2. dirtysecret

    dirtysecret Regular Member

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    Quite simply, different class C ips allow you to masquerade as multiple different people/websites.

    The whole goal of SEO is to get backlinks that are genuine.

    Genuine means:
    -unsolicited
    -definitely not put there by you

    Since you don't have control over other people's websites, there is no active/immediate way to get backlinks from other people's websites....

    ...unless...

    you ARE that "other" person. ;)

    When the search engines spider a site and look at its backlinks, they know the IP of the website. If they see it linking to a bunch of other websites on the same IP....something is "fishy" about it.

    On the other hand, if site A links to site B and they are on completely different IP addresses, there is no suspicion.

    make sense?
     
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  3. mrtornado

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    this could be useful information for me so if I have a server with a class c I would assign to it 256 website and get 256 unique links :) Who needs hosting ? :)
     
  4. yao1994

    yao1994 Regular Member

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    But why can't i just spend that $100 for 5 backlinks on something else like outsourcing articles with links on them?
     
  5. yao1994

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    Oh wait. I didn't see the above post sorry.

    So if my main site is 111.111.1.1, can I use 222.222.2.2 for 100 sites pointing to my main one?
     
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    Its better to try and have link from different ip's, if they all come from the same ip it is still suspicious and looked for by search engines.
     
  7. nonchessguy

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    GIYF

    A) 123.123.123.1
    B) 123.123.123.2

    C) 123.123.123.1
    D) 123.123.124.1

    Look closely.

    A and B are in the same C Class
    C and D are in different C Classes

    IP "A" might host nonchessguysblog.com
    IP "B" might host nonchessguysmainsite.com...one links to the other but Google is not fooled and the link is devalued.

    IP "C" might host nonchessguysblog.com
    IP "D" might host nonchessguysmainsite.com...one links to the other and Google gladly counts the link as an independent editorial endorsement.

    Take care,

    JD
     
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  8. yao1994

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    thankyou so much and i have also found a cheap C class provider

    Code:
    http://indianets.com/
     
  9. bwh48

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    Does anyone have any opnions on this provider?

    Anyone used them before?
     
  10. dirtysecret

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    It's called "india" nets. Where are the servers? if you you do a geoip lookup on the ips they provide, where are they? Don't forget that you get what you pay for. I noticed too that they are waaaaay cheaper than every other outfit out there. Probably a reason for it....
     
  11. nonchessguy

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    Fantomaster recommended SEO Hosting

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    http://www.seohosting.com/
    I'm probably going to use them but does anybody else a good host?

    Are these prices reasonable?

    Code:
    Hosting Plan 	Per C-Class 	Pricing 	Diskspace 	Bandwidth
    5 C-Classes	$7.00 / c-class	$35 / month	20 GB	200 GB
    10 C-Classes	$6.75 / c-class	$67.50 / month	40 GB	400 GB
    15 C-Classes	$6.50 / c-class	$97.50 / month	60 GB	600 GB
    20 C-Classes	$6.25 / c-class	$125 / month	80 GB	800 GB
    25 C-Classes	$6.00 / c-class	$150 / month	100 GB	1000 GB
    30 C-Classes	$5.75 / c-class	$172.50 / month	120 GB	1200 GB
    35 C-Classes	$5.50 / c-class	$192.50 / month	140 GB	1400 GB
    40 C-Classes	$5.25 / c-class	$210 / month	160 GB	1600 GB
    45 C-Classes	$5.00 / c-class	$225 / month	180 GB	1800 GB
    50 C-Classes	$4.75 / c-class	$237.50 / month	200 GB	2000 GB
    60 C-Classes	$4.70 / c-class	$282 / month	240 GB	2400 GB
    70 C-Classes	$4.65 / c-class	$325.50 / month	280 GB	2800 GB
    80 C-Classes	$4.60 / c-class	$368 / month	320 GB	3200 GB
    90 C-Classes	$4.55 / c-class	$409.50 / month	360 GB	3600 GB
    100 C-Classes	$4.50 / c-class	$450 / month	400 GB	4000 GB
    110 C-Classes	$4.45 / c-class	$489.50 / month	440 GB	4400 GB
    120 C-Classes	$4.40 / c-class	$528 / month	480 GB	4800 GB
    125 C-Classes	$4.35 / c-class	$543.75 / month	500 GB	5000 GB
    
     
  12. curiousj

    curiousj Newbie

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    seohosting is hostgator and hostgator is pretty reputable, so it's not a scam...
    those prices are very reasonable and the ips are most likely USA-based since they are a US company.
     
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  13. jvmarket

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    First to answer the question about SEO Hosting....we have been using them now for about 7 or 8 months and have not had a single issue with them. We were using a number of different hosting companies and had all kinds of problems with down times ect. So 2 thumbs up for SEO Hosting.

    Most of my blogs that I use for adsense I also use for various backlinking activities. It's been my experience that Google gives more weight to backlinks from different Class C IPs.

    If you own and cross link different sites it may be more efficient (for SEO purposes) to host them on different Class C IP ranges.

    I'm always trying to hide something from the google so I like to have different Class C IPs.

    Do you need a different class C IP? Depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

    j
     
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  14. jamessmith

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    Here is another host I found
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    http://theseohosting.com/
     
  15. El-Plaga

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    Seo hosting is a must have if you are looking to build up a sites if you have a few and want to juice them yourself. Very effective!

    If anyone need like a few sites on there own c-class let me know i can hook you up. Serious people only.
     
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    I've used 1ndiaN3ts before, and I thought they were great. (The only reason that I canceled my accounts was that I discontinued the project for which I needed multiple C-Class IPs.) The customer service is excellent, and I didn't have any problems with downtime. As for their servers, you have the option of hosting in India or the U.S. They'll even do private nameservers and non-sequential C classes if you ask them. SE0Hosting.c0m does not guarantee that you will get non-sequential C-Class IPs. Nor does G0tW3bH0st.c0m.
     
  17. jagrmeister721

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    I use GotWebHost because I need a dedicated server (my site heavily uses database content, some of which needs to be stored in memory)- I have 20 c-class IPs and a few hundred sites. Service there has been good. Its a little pricy, but with the value of interlinking dozens or hundreds of sites, it can be worth it. I say "can" because we are still in the process of gauging how the interlinking is improving our site traffic- so I can post more on results later.
     
  18. mockba

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    i did a partial switch from hostgator seohosting.com to seo-host.com about 2 months ago. i was happy with hostgator but wanted to explore other possibilities, including lower price per month as i was looking to upgrade to 100+IPs.

    setup was exactly the same, support was good, everything went well, until this week...when all outbound emails stopped working with "rejected due to poor reputation" or "spamhaus" notice/error return.

    support said that the issue has been resolved and everything will be ok as soon as other hosts refresh their spam list cache...

    wondering if anyone is using their service and/or has experienced the same issues. obviously i got f*cked due to some neighbours actions...but how long can it take before my IP gets accepted again, if ever?
     
  19. AgentZero

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    i plan to use c class with autoblogs and link them to a whitehat site which i plan to rank well for quite a competitive keyword. Has anyone been successful at doing this?
     
  20. pussyback

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    just getting into seo and this tread really helps.