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Case Study: Testing the effects of excessive backlinking

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gorang, May 24, 2011.

  1. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    Case Study

    Testing the effects of excessive backlinking on an established domain



    Domain: hemorrhoidtreatmentcream.com
    Age: 1 year 9 months
    History: I've been creating links for this domain for a long time now. Not so long ago I put too many keywords into the content and it sank, since removing them it has risen again, but never quite returned to where it once was. I haven't created backlinks for some time now. The website makes no money, it just hasn't worked out for me. Which makes it a good candidate for the test.
    Target keywords: Hemorrhoid treatments, hemorrhoid symptoms
    Your help: If you would like to donate backlinks blasts then please remember to use the target keyword and leave details of work completed in this thread so we can see.


    Some information about excessive linking:

    It is my belief that excessive backlinking will stop a website from reaching the top of the search engines, however there are very different opinions on the forum.

    I'm going to offer up one of my websites as a test case so we can see the effects and finally put it to bed.

    First of all, I want to explain that in Google's own patent it states:

    "In the present invention, it is possible, therefore, for a document with only one backlink (from a very highly ranked page) to have a higher rank than another document with many backlinks (from very low ranked pages). This is not the case with simple citation ranking." - This means that the number of backlinks is definitely NOT the definitive source when Google calculates rankings for sites.

    I don't have the patent anymore, but there is also a part in Google's patent which explains that Google plots a "link graph" using the anchor text of backlinks over time.

    It says that a spammer will show a spiky graph with overly coherent or overly diverse anchor text.

    A natural website will show anchor text that varies but which is related tot he topic and a more stable graph.

    The bit which I found really interesting is that when the Google algo detects a website that is being spammed for backlinks it will SCALE DOWN the scoring of the website accordingly. What this means is that you will need more links to move the site in comparison to a non-spam site.

    So what is the plan?

    The plan is to create thousands of links regularly. As much as some of the very large blasts you can get on blackhat world. We need to link excessively but not any more than anyone from BHW might do. So there's not point making 8 million a day. We need to keep it realistic and based on what the average excessive linker on BHW does.

    I will need help from you guys. I will pay for link blasts when I can afford it, but it would be more manageable if supporters of this thread coudl use whatever tools you have at your disposal to execute "runs" of their software on our target site using our target keyword.

    I will update the thread whenever I use software of buy blasts from a service.

    The great thing about this site is that it is an aged domain and it is not spam.

    You can download a ranking report i've completed here:
    hemorrhoidtreatmentcream.com/hemorrhoidtreatmentcream.xls

    Inbound Links 222
    Indexed Pages
    14
    hemorrhoid treatment 45
    hemorrhoid treatments 29
    hemorrhoid treatment cream 1
    hemorrhoid symptoms 11
    symptoms of hemorrhoids 12
    hemorrhoid causes 22
    causes of hemorrhoids 32
    venapro 100+
    treating hemorrhoids 45
    painless hemorrhoid treatment 7
    external hemorrhoid treatment 18
    homeopathic hemorrhoid treatment 11
    natural hemorrhoid treatment 23

    The rankings for the site are by no means bad. I did the rankings using google.com/ncr (no location). So they are slightly less than in the UK.

    I will try to update the ranking report each week.

    Remember to use the target keyword and leave details of work completed in this thread so we can see.
     
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  2. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    I've also uploaded the Google analytics data for the site so we can benchmark traffic too.
    hemorrhoidtreatmentcream.com/analytics.pdf
     
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  3. jashawa9485

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    Looking forward to the results

    I like that theme, looks legit. Same one used for the pimple site?
     
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  4. gorang

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    I've completed an EVO2 run which is only around 200 links, i'm now going to use scrapebox to spam some comments.

    Would appreciate any big lists people have.
     
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    So lets get this straight, I blast some ones sites with millions of spammy links and that will devalue their site in your opinion?
     
  6. darshan1994

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    Do you want scrapebox Link? I can use your domain when I am hunting for autoapprove blogs.
     
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  7. gorang

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    No, sorry I didn't realize how this was worded. What I mean is that Google's own patent states that a mechanism for penalizing webspammers is to devalue future backlinks which are created for the website which is being spammed.
     
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    This is a fantastic idea, can't wait to see what happens.
     
  9. gorang

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    I think Scrapebox is a good way of pounding the site with links. I'm harvesting URLS as we speak, I have around 68k to post to.
     
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    I've just started a free trial of dripable and placed the hemorrhoid site in there. That should be about 1k links a day as far as I can tell.
     
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  11. gorang

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    Downloaded various lists from BHW for scrapebox. I think I should have over 1 million URLS for scrapebox now.

    Does anyone have Xrumer they would like to donate a run of?
     
  12. bk071

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    Let me know if you want more of those SB unique domains :)

    I think I got just over 1.2 million of them.

    EDIT: I just searched them over for you and others :)
    Here goes:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-unique-wordpress-domains-sb-fast-poster.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-unique-wordpress-domains-sb-fast-poster.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ss-domains-high-success-rate-fast-poster.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ss-domains-30-success-rate-w-fast-poster.html

    Sure, there will be some dupes if you combine them all and then check, but its quite obvious ;)

    Cheers.
     
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    Could you share the links with us, who are free aviable on bhw, so we got all the links to gether
     
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    Thanks BH071

    Once i've exhausted this list which will likely take the whole day then I may take you up on that.

    I think this test should be really interesting. I've always peddled the belief that a site will be penalized for creating too many links, but after so many people saying the opposite I feel there has to be some truth.

    We'll find out either way.
     
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    Lol that's great. Now I have a couple of million URLS. My scrapebox will be burnt out at the end of this.

    Can anyone offer up some Xrumer runs at all while i'm using Scrapebox?

    Can anyone think of any other high quantity backlink software we could use?
     
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    I'm also greatly interested in this. I don't have money to add, but I'm following it. I got massive penalties after xrummer blasts to my site.
     
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    bk071 not BH071 :p

    Anyways, don't blast to the whole list in a single blast. SB will crash (99% of the time)

    Split it down to files like 150k each and then blast them one by one, thats what works for me :)

    Hope someone comes up with XRumer links, I don't use it so can't help in that regard.

    Cheers.
     
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    what is dripable - a drip feed ping site... ?
     
  19. gorang

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    After 2 days, near identical rankings, Google hasn't shown any results yet!

    I'm still blasting away with scrapebox and EVO2
     
  20. worky

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    HI Gorang, saw you post over on Maruk's thread and thought I would check out how your case study is doing as well.

    I am curious to know if when you first created this site if it made you money and just dropped over time or has it ever made you money?