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Can you do too much SEO?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by KevinZaki, May 19, 2014.

  1. KevinZaki

    KevinZaki Junior Member

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    For a new website and domain, is it possible to do too much SEO? What I mean is, if I buy a couple different SEO plans say 3 different SEO plans from about 200 a piece is there any danger?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aty

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    3 seo plans for a new site is definitely too much. Besides that, if something goes wrong how can you tell which service sucked?
     
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  3. DaQuark

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    Hey Kevin,

    yes you can put in too much effort. For example if you create too many back links in a short period of time, Google will notice and it will harm your ranking. Especially for a new domain!

    as a general rule: try to let the seo look natural, big G knows the tricks and even the companies that provide such services
     
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  4. PerryThresher

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    As a result you are getting lots of spending, a big chance to catch a penalty, and no opportunity to find out about which plan caught it. Not a great profit, i think.
     
  5. Abstroose

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    Take your time, man. It's more important now so than ever. You need to do things gradually.
     
  6. lalit_burma

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    What 3 SEO plans you are targetting ?
     
  7. moeatwa

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    I think the much bigger pitfall than doing too much SEO is doing too much of the same type of SEO in too short a time frame. Like Abstroose said, slow and steady is the way to go- it's always been this way, but this is more true now than it has ever been before. I've decided to try and follow the rough outlines in this piece here both in terms of the time frames specified as well as the sheer diversity of the types of links in question:

    http://pointblankseo.com/link-building-strategies

    FYI though, I'm just getting started in the SEO scene myself after lurking around since forever (better late than never, right?) so definitely take my advice with a grain of salt.
     
  8. Commoner

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    Hi OP,

    I was alarmed to see one person engaging three seo providers. A single example is that you are at home having 3 knowledgeable tutors trying to educate you using their own strategies. Though they are successful and skilful, do you think that most knowledge would be imparted and utilized during the actual examinations (Big G network here).

    Basically, Big G would say you are overwhelmed by knowledge and deemed as massive spamz. Then, the search engine would proceed to put an F grade due to overboard.

    Hope You Catch The Hint,
    Commoner
     
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  9. therainymansion

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    Yes, too much seo is termed as over optimization and could sandbox your website.
     
  10. Commoner

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    Concur with RainyMansion,

    Sandboxed is a very serious issue though not being official in search engine terms. The big G certainly looked at few criteria before giving the final green light to the rankings.

    Firstly, not a massive ultra GSA type of website. Next is not to have SEO Footprints being left all over the place (pretty obvious that you are in for the ride only). Lastly, try to avoid engaging too much services as moderation is good enough.

    SEO is a painful and slow process, not a quick black hat ranking hierarchy type.
     
  11. hotantivirus

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    Its better to take it slow and you'll get rankings eventually. Rushing things might not be good for longer run.
     
  12. KevinZaki

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    Thanks everyone,

    Great advice from everyone. I will def take your advice. The thing is now, there are so many plans, I don't know what the best is to get started on a new website. If anyone has some serious non bias opinions lets me know!

    Thanks!
     
  13. deki33

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    First start with social signals. Take some FB shares, twits and retwits...
    Buy some manual social bookmarks on high PR sites, don't take crapy socials, but quality.

    Wait week or more...

    Take some guest posts on few authority and niche related sites.

    Wait week...

    Do press release at PRweb. Don't submit to crappy sites again.

    Wait week.

    Do 2nd tier blast to all published press sites.

    etc...etc....

    Over time you can go with strangler links and more of them, but after 4 to 6 months of slow link building.
     
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  14. KevinZaki

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    Thanks, great advice, any links to certain services that can accomplish each step?
     
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    i could not agree more. everything these days need to look natural. no benefit in hiring 3+ seo companies
     
  16. JoeMongan

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    Issue is all three can conflict with each other depending on what their SEO strategy is. Best to go with one
    and test it out or if you must buy several service then make sure they all know.

    -RK
     
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    Start with little and gradually raise it to some extent which doesn't make google to suspect on your traffic, continue to carry out the method which works best for you in a regular basis.
     
  18. innovativecr

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    If you are building low quality links, than yes, you need to be aware that this could sandbox your website.

    However, if you are going for Tier-1 links (NYTimes / Huffpo, etc) it is possible to build more links in less time without fear of over-optimization.
     
  19. zebrahat

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    Tier 1---About 2 dozen manually created "all star" links, all contextual, keyword in title/url, high actual PR/PA, varied link sources (authority news site, expired domain, niche-related guest post, premium Web 2.0, etc.).

    Tier 2---About 9-10+ good contextual links to each tier 1 link, moderate PR/PA, some automation okay.

    Tier 3---Hundreds/thousands of links to the tier 2 links, can be mainly SB, GSA, NHS, etc generated, smart blasting and so on.

    This should lead to a natural looking link profile with natural link density and diversity, for longer term high rankings.
     
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  20. Commoner

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    Yeah I concur,

    A link pryamid is needed to established a solid website. In your engagements, you hired too many SEO providers which makes many link pryamids, in return enforcing a negative outlook.

    It is necessary to disavow some links which are harmful as well as requesting them to slow down the SEO processes significantly.

    Sigh,
    Commoner