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Can someone please explain the Tiers?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by PurpleSEO, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. PurpleSEO

    PurpleSEO Junior Member

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    What is Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 link pushing?
     
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    Your Site <-- Tier1 links <-- Tier 2 links <-- Tier 3 links

    A tier refers to how far out the link is from your root domain.

    Link pushing is a SEO technique... Basically it's a large web of backlinks eventually pointing to your site.

    See Diagram here: http://linkpushing.net/images/lp2_large.jpg
     
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    Tier is one of two or more rows, levels, or layers arranged one above another.
    Basically it means that links do not point to your money site, some of the links point to other links, they point to other, and those other finally point to you. The link juice is flowing through all of them, without the real menace to your site.
     
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  4. GreyWolf

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    Everything said above is correct. If you still don't completely understand then maybe this explanation will help.

    Tier 1 links point to your main site.
    Tier 2 links point to the Tier 1 pages.
    Tier 3 links point to the Tier 2 pages.

    The reason for doing this is to increase the value of your links. A link to your site from a page with many backlinks is worth more value than a link from a page with no backlinks. So you use the Tier 2 sites to create backlinks for the Tier 1 sites so that the backlinks to your site on the Tier 1 sites will be more valuable. The same thing applies to the backlinks on the Tier 3 sites work to make the Tier 2 backlinks more powerful for the Tier 1 sites. The ultimate result is that all the link juice flowing to your main site will have more value.
     
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    This. Also your site is better protected against google sandbox( Mostly for new sites)
     
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    I thought this was a ridiculous question, because its so simple to go to good for this.

    However, The help given shows just how great this forum is.

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  8. PurpleSEO

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    thank you all for your answers. greywolf and demon had some good insight for me.

    i knew what the tiers were, i guess my real question was to the purpse of the tiers, but it all makes sense now.

    1) increase value of the links
    2) prevent sand boxing

    As a follow up, I would like to ask this.

    Are blog comments, articles and profile comments all considered in the tier2, tier3 and tier 1 links?

    If so... would it work like this:

    Tier 3: 3 blog comment and forum profiles links to an article posted using AMR.
    Tier 2: The AMR article has links to Blog#1
    Tier 1: Blog #1 has direct links to the "money site"
     
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    That sounds about right
     
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  10. PurpleSEO

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    thanks the fast response.

    should blog#1 be active? meaning do i have to have a post every so often. or can i just post 1 related article to the blog and never bother again?

    also... can i use the same spun article on tier2 and tier 3?
     
  11. GreyWolf

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    Yeah pretty much. Which tier you're linking to is what determines which tier you're working on. So if you're making a link to your money site they you're working on a Tier 2 page, if making a link to a Tier 1 page then you're working on a Tier 2 page, etc.

    In fact if you were to have 2 backlinks in a blog article, one linking to a Tier 2 page and another linking to a Tier 1 page, then that particular blog could be considered both a Tier 3 page and a Tier 2 page at the same time. I wouldn't recommend overdoing that, but it can be done some.

    Also some backlinks such as blog posts, articles sites, etc. will be natural tiers to build more links to, but sites with blog comments and other low power pages are less natural to build more links to. ( I hope that makes sense, I'm not sure that's a very good explanation.)

    Yeah pretty much. You can even switch them up as well, have some blogs on Tier 3 linking to AMR articles on Tier 2, blog comments on Tier 2 linking to articles or blogs on Tier 1, etc.

    Well it just depends on how much work you want to do. If you have a few Tier one sites that get continually updated, then they'll tend to develop into higher value sites linking to your main site. But if you have a lot of them it may be unrealistic to keep updating all of them. It'll still work either way.

    One thing to remember though is it's best to have some decent quality especially on the top tiers, so if your spun articles are seeming kind of spammy you'll want to use them on the lower tiers.

    It isn't like there's a single perfect way to set it up. When it's done right it should resemble organic natural links, but there's a lot of ways to do that. That's the point of Link Pushing - to create a certain amount of randomness in your link building (so as to not leave any obvious footprints), while at the same time having some control over the link juice flowing up through the tiers to your money site.

    It sounds like you may be overthinking it a little bit. :cool:
     
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  12. myduit2011

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    I just curious, what are they write for web 2.0 in Tier 1, Tier 2 and so on, it is the same content as money site such as use backlinkenergizer in web 2.0
     
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  13. GreyWolf

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    you can use the same content and spin it. Just don't spin it so much as to make it senseless.
     
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    i read that tier linking is being phased out by google panda. is this true?
     
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    As long as backlinks are considered as an indicator of a pages value, they can never really phase out tiered linking. When done right it's the closest approximation or natural organic linking, which is the foundation of how Google sorts it's indexes.

    Just making a tiered pyramid of sites and using them over and over is an easy footprint to identify. The sites you're building links on are easy to judge for quality. The overall process of linkbuilding has to take that into account as Google adjusts for it, but there's really no way to "phase out" tiered linking altogether. Not without "phasing out" natural organic linking as well.

    All that Panda really does is make the quality of what your doing much more important.
     
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    What sort of size is best for tier 1? Like how many sites should you link to your main site with?
     
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  17. GreyWolf

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    Like I said earlier, there's no best answer for a lot of this. It's not so much how many tier 1 sites you want, its a matter of how fast you add them. Best bet is to make a few, then build a few tier 2 sites to those, then build a few more tier 1 sites, then a few tier 2 sites to each of those. Then build some tier 3 sites to them all. Then build a few more tier 1, then a few more tier 2, etc. When you get to tier 4 you can start using mostly straight backlinks like blog commenting, etc. No sense in spending too much time building quality pages when you get past 2 or 3 tiers. Maybe over time build some quality pages at tier 4 and above, but only if you feel like it and have some time.

    See the theme here? There isn't a set number, not for how wide to build the tiers or how deep. Just start making them and building backlinks. All that your doing with the web 2.0 tiers is creating higher quality backlinks.

    Over time as you keep making pages, you might spend more time on some and create additional money sites from them.

    I posted a thread a long time ago that explains the point of it all a little bit.
    SEO - Understanding the Simulation
    Read that and maybe it'll help clear things up.
     
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