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Can some EXPERT give us newbies startup guidelines?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by 666666, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. 666666

    666666 Newbie

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    Hello Everyone,

    You might of course f lame me saying there is a sticky but seriously... how are we going to find our way around 500 programs listed on that? I read, I read, I read... for weeks, but i dont know where to start.

    I think everyone that starts whitehatting needs some basic utilities:

    1. KEYRANK CHECKER
    Show me today at which position web site is when searched for keyword. Or how much it declined/advanced from yesterday.

    2. SOCIAL MEDIA AU TOMATION
    Facebook, digg, technorati, twitter... etc. A tool to automate (not s p am) our account creation, submit our posts, etc.

    3. ARTICLE A UTOMATION

    4. PRESS RELEASE A UTOMATION

    5. BLOG COMMENTER/SUBMITTER

    I think these would be bare minimums to get started.

    Anybody to show us the way or augment the list?

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Daniel0cean

    Daniel0cean Regular Member

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    the best advice is to use the SEARCH button.
    I found lots of useful stuff around here just by browsing posts. And programs that you get here for money, and are advertised around here can easily be found on rapidshare via rapidfinder or on torrents just google inurl:torrent program.
    I am no expert but searching and browsing and patience helped me alot
     
  3. Rhazha

    Rhazha Junior Member

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    Showing "The Way" is relative. Everybody has preferences for tools and different niches to market.
    One important thing is if the websites being promoted are yours to make money or Client's websites.
    This changes a lot the "way" you do your "business." I mentioned client's webs because you said initially "whitehatting."

    To your list I would add:

    Website Directories Submission-This is for those websites you want for the "keep" for a few years from the get going. Also, if its Client's websites.

    Backlink Checker- Tools OR services, It's a MUST! How you gonna outrank your competition without knowing how strong they are?

    Be Organized- Very Important. You need to create spread sheets with date of
    your submissions (any directories) to track what is being indexed and not, how fast,
    rankings improvement AFTER submission. What services are worth paying for and what tools are or became "crappy."

    Everything you do, especially "WHITE HAT" related, You Need To Track It!

    Be Organized and Good Luck! :clap2:
     
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  4. 666666

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    Dude I am browsing and reading since 10 days. I don't need to know logarithmic and integral functions of google's algorithms to get started. Just like i don't need to know where the crankshaft piston of a car is when i want to drive it.

    Tools page lists 500 items! What exactly will i try from that list? I don't have ample amounts of times to try all the tools in the world... most of which requires a steep learning curve to start with.

    A 500 tools is not basic... neither are having to read 23000 topics with 2719990 posts on them.

    I am just asking something basics to get us started. Then the rest will come in time.
     
  5. 666666

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    Off course they do. But there are also basics to get started with before expanding.

    I still don't know where to get a tool or which tool to check position of a page from day to day.

    Totally agree with being organized and documenting everything. Seems crucial if you are thinking long term.
     
  6. Mvplivinlarge

    Mvplivinlarge Newbie

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    I would recommend using the SEARCH BUTTON to search for my thread.

    A List of Resources that have gotten me where I am today
     
  7. 666666

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    I am sorry but there is a better list than yours which is hte sticky on this section.

    Moreover I have no idea what any one of you 50 listings does. Trying to find first one on this forum took me to a page where i had to read 50 posts just to find out what it is what it does. I finished the topic, after 3 pages I still had no idea what it is. Searched on google, went to a 50 million word site that required me to read all of them by scrolling 50 pages down to find out what it is and pestered me with exit pages when i wanted to leave.

    I have no respect to invasive programs or websites designed in such a way. And I will refuse to use a program like that let alone try to understand what it is.

    Moreover, your posts seems like you are advertising someone else's stuff, probably Frank Kern is you or you are his affiliate.
     
  8. Mvplivinlarge

    Mvplivinlarge Newbie

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    Stop being lazy.

    Yes - you are lazy if you don't take this advice. I am not endorsing anyone's product.

    I am just telling you what I used. Do you see a single affiliate link?

    I simply put up a list to help people out. (that's what this forum is for right?)

    I don't spend my time on this forum, becaue I have better things to do with my time.

    IMPLEMENT rather than just READ READ READ.

    When you are new, you have to LEARN.

    "opportunity comes on little cat's feet...SCAMS come at you with a sledgehammer"

    make of it what you will.
     
  9. _Chip_

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    1] market samurai [keyword research] [you will find it in the download section]
    2] backlinkwatch.com or yahoo site explorer [to find your competitiors' links]
    3] scrapebox [scrapebox.com/bhw] [get all the links to want to work with and start building your links]
    4] socialmarker.com
    5] tubemogul.com
    6] thebestspinner.com
    7] there are loads of seo and social plugins for wordpress [eg:eek:nlywire][ping.fm]
    8] finally RSS submissions .. i use RSSbot ..
     
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  10. Ramsweb

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    I think you have got some pretty good inputs here already but if you want a general perspective on how to approach SEO in general, check out the posts by a user called Greywolf. He is a very helpful guy on the forum.
     
  11. Extropy

    Extropy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    A coach once gave me some good advice...

    He said "Son, listen to me. If you want to learn to climb that rope, what do you need to do? Examine the rope? Ask people for tips and tricks? Hell no! You just walk right up and you climb the rope. Then you figure out what the best way up it is."

    Pretty good advice...

    Make a site, work on on-page seo, start link building, see what works for you. You'll get there.
     
  12. mofaux

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    You could practice with any of the free tools available in the downloads section. If you're worried about losing money, autoblogs are basically guaranteed income.

    Automated social media: Like box, like buttons, retweet button, stumble button, reddit button depending on what kind of content you're promoting. Tweet attacks free version if you don't hate twitter like me.

    Press release automation: Write a good press release and it will get aggregated by human beings (and possibly google news).

    Blog commenter/submitter: Scrapebox. It will come in handy when you need a list of footprints, too.

    Tons of things: Market samurai. It's free for a month and it's a great investment. You can also download cracked versions regularly in the download section.

    If you don't have a ton of sites, you won't lose much time submitting things and creating accounts manually.
     
  13. MisterGemini

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    Build one site.. understand how it works.
    Write content for the site.. understand how it works.
    Promote the site by building links.. understand how it works.
    See how your traffic behaves on your site... understand how it works.
    Succeed exceedingly, or fail miserably.. either way.. you will have done it all and will walk away with... understanding how it ALL works.

    Without understanding how it works.. the tools will more likely do more harm than good. Go through things manually and see how it all comes together. Once you do, you will know for yourself what tools you need, but more importantly, you will know HOW to use them.

    Good luck.
     
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    beatuplunchbox Junior Member

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    Mr.G ain't kidding.
    If you learn how it works first you can drive the hell out of it, otherwise you are just spinning your wheels or even worse, blowing your foot off.
     
  15. 666666

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    Good advice but I don't think that is not how it works in SEO.

    An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.

    It is better to do things gradually. I don't want to set up 20 sites and get all them delisted/banned. I have a live site that i want to work on.
     
  16. 666666

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    Thank you for this chip.
     
  17. 666666

    666666 Newbie

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    I noticed that and read quite many of his posts till now.
     
  18. 666666

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    I am looking for something like this actually:

    1. Have a site and content ready.
    2. Submit 10 links today to some directories.
    3. Do 5 articles submissions tomorrow.
    4. Join some forums, bookmarks, etc.

    I mean... Some method to do things gradually and slowly instead of going all out crazy.

    I would like to do stuff first manually. But a bit of a utomation would help (for example, create yahoo mails, twitter or what not accounts, forum logins, etc).

    I just don't know how to go or where to go.

    Everyone suggests tools, but unless this is your business (it is not my business and i dont intend it to be), those tools rack up to $5000 very quickly. How can a newbie afford that?
    I am just doing this for my own site... for the fun of it.
     
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  19. 666666

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    I am trying to make a linkroot actually at the long run.

    On-site SEO is finished. I have learnt it well and optimized it properly. Content is there, I don't have competitors in my niche.

    My only interest is to rank high in Google. Not traffic, not anything else.

    Yes, threw your word for you, I like it. You can see that I read half of the forum :)
     
  20. ajcomputerdoc

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    I'm brand new too and echo your sentiments....I've been reading/studying for a month.
    I have logged everything into a mindmap. (i use personalbrain)

    In the beginning, 95% of what I read I didn't understand so I searched for meanings.

    It felt like being in a fog.

    I am at the end of my initial learning.

    Personally, I'm a by-the-book person. Give me instructions and I can make it happen.

    However in IM, some things are trial and error and (I know you've read this b4),
    --we have to put our own spin on this. This requires self-examination in the truest sense.

    How else can we be successful unless we personalize this?

    The only thing left to do is to do it.

    Who What When Where How---when I get comfortable enough to answer those,
    that will be real progress.

    Like a toddler learning to walk...not being afraid to fall down. And with the
    same determination: crawling to standing to walking.

    If you want step by step, get back to me to see what I'm doing.
     
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