1. This website uses cookies to improve service and provide a tailored user experience. By using this site, you agree to this use. See our Cookie Policy.
    Dismiss Notice

Built PBN with expired Domains

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MrGrayHat, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. MrGrayHat

    MrGrayHat Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    Hi Guys,
    before i start to built my PBN, i have a very important Question.

    Is it worth to built a PBN by expired Domains?
    Cause in the past i have bought some expired Domains from auctions and tried to build a new affiliate projekt on it, but the sites are not ranking.

    I have created a lot of content on this sites, 3.500 - 5.000 word HQ content but they rank like new sites with no power.

    So is it worth to buy much of this expired Domains and use them as my PBN?
    Cause they need a looooooong time till they get good rankings in google, thats why im nor sure if the links are really worthwhile, if the domain needs so long to get good rankings?

    Good metrics are one thing, but the traffic and the rankings say more about the power of the domain, right?

    I think, a link from a Domain with good Metrics but low rankings and low traffic can not bring good power?

    How do you think about it?

    Is it worth the links if the domain has bad rankings but good metrics?

    For sure i will show you the metrics of the domains before i have started to build content on them (they are 100% clean, no spam)
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Thanks to all who answer here!
     
  2. ContentWriter

    ContentWriter Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    May 8, 2013
    Messages:
    6,125
    Likes Received:
    963
    Occupation:
    Content Writer
    Location:
    The Philippines
    Home Page:
    @MrGrayHat

    Since search engines such as Google prefers aged domains for page ranking, it's best to buy expired ones for your PBN. Sites with expired domains can also retain the ranking when reused. Some tips for you to consider; evaluate the keywords, evaluate backlink data, check Alexa rank, and search for de-indexing penalties.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. Natasa cyrus

    Natasa cyrus Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2019
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Female
    Home Page:
    PBN's certainly pays off if you use them correctly but one thing I'd like to tell you from my own experience that before buying an expired domain with good backlink profile please make sure that the domain doesn't have any "Manual actions" in against of it. Recently I have bought 6 expired domains with really very amazing link profile and DA/PA, I was very happy, but as soon as I submitted them to WMT it shown there were "Manual actions" taken in against of all the 6 domains in past. So be cautious.......
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. magnetohall

    magnetohall BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    What is link profile ?
    Extension need to be varied ?
    Only .com ?
     
  5. Rj268

    Rj268 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2018
    Messages:
    1,157
    Likes Received:
    635
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southern California
    Several questions:
    1. How long have the sites been live?
    2. How many pages/posts are currently on each domain?
    3. Are former pages with backlinks redirected to current pages?
    4. Is your on page SEO good and do you have internal linking?
     
  6. Natasa cyrus

    Natasa cyrus Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2019
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Female
    Home Page:
    Link profile means the number of quality backlinks to the domain
    if you are willing to target local market then keep 60% of your PBN domains with local extensions + 30% .com + 10% can be .net. org. and others.....
     
  7. WhaTheFak

    WhaTheFak Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2019
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Asking a question in this thread instead of making a new one:

    Let's say my niche is home and kitchen, does it matter if my expired domain, which I use for PBN has completely irrelevant domain-name and niche.
     
  8. Natasa cyrus

    Natasa cyrus Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2019
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Female
    Home Page:
    Domain name is not necessary but niche is.....!
     
  9. ghostsura

    ghostsura Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2019
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Looking at these stats, I can tell they won't be as strong as you think.

    Why?

    How can a website with over 10k backlinks NOT be ranking for any keywords or getting organic traffic?

    The strongest website you have there is the one with 2k backlinks and that's nothing because it's only ranking for 2 keywords and no organic traffic..

    Waste of hecking money if you buy those 3 domains.
     
  10. BuildMoreLinks

    BuildMoreLinks Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Messages:
    3,093
    Likes Received:
    961
    how is the new content indexing on these sites? also any warning from GSC? I picked up a domain last week and already have around 150 articles indexed on them.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  11. Mr Positive

    Mr Positive Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2018
    Messages:
    5,685
    Likes Received:
    2,775
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    If you need an extensive review I’m your guy.
    Location:
    I Post Reviews under 12 Hours
    Home Page:
    Expired clean domains work well for pbns
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  12. MrGrayHat

    MrGrayHat Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    @ContentWriter
    Thank you very much for your Help, but i've checked everything, everything look nice, there so no penetly.
     
  13. totorankfast

    totorankfast Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2019
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    41
    For PBN i prefer good referring domain or linking domain rather than relying in metrics score.
     
  14. MrGrayHat

    MrGrayHat Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    @Natasa cyrus
    Thank you also for your help, but there is no manual action..
    @Rj268
    The sites are live now since 45 Days.
    8-20 Posts, each post got 3.000-5.000 Words
    I have redirected the old pages to homepage.
    On page Seo is good, internal linkig too.
    Do you think i have to wait longer?
    And what about if i Link after 2 Months to my money site, will the Link have power?
    im asking because of the bad rankings of the PBN Domain and thats why i dont believ that the Backlink will have much power

    Here you can see the results on Ahrefs from my last Projekt:

    Start 22.09.2019 with contact, home page and so on..
    First Blog Post was on 11.10.2019
    Since today there are 8 posts online, with HQ content
    No Manual Actions, realy nice backlinks from universitys and much more..
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    @BuildMoreLinks

    Artikels where indexed instand, but the rankings are really really bad.
     
  15. MrGrayHat

    MrGrayHat Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    @Mr Positive
    So when i creat a PBN with some expired Domains, do you know it for sure, if all the domains where to 100% clean and relevant, the PBN expired Domain Links will help my money site to rank?
    Im asking because the expired domains doest'n get fast and crazy rankings after 2-3 months, and id like to link to my money site after 2-3 months...
    The PBN posts will land on site 5-10 on google, thats why i cant believ that the links can really help me?
    BTW the Links are really really nice, no bullshit or spam or something.
     
  16. Dr Doomain

    Dr Doomain Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    42
    Home Page:
    You should also factor in randomness. Some domains will not rank whatever you do with it, even if it's clean. Just build more sites and test.
     
  17. magnetohall

    magnetohall BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks a lot.

    What do you feel about .eu extension ? This is what you call local market ? Or it's necessary country like .es .it .fr ? I have some extra question like where and when put backlinks on the network. Can I mp you ?
     
  18. Rj268

    Rj268 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2018
    Messages:
    1,157
    Likes Received:
    635
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southern California
    At 45 days you should start seeing some activity. But what I have noticed with a lot of expired domain turned PBN is they will pass juice but not rank in the serp. If you build a few links to the pages with keyword anchors then they start ranking for keywords. The links need not be super powerful to get this started. I've done it with bought PBN links, web 2.0's, article submissions and so on. The expired domain is much like a new site. The only difference is once the site starts ranking for keywords they will rank higher after the google dance than a new site.