bmac blackmailer and scammer

Yes I have employees that use the skype if I am out. Otherwise it might be several days at a time that I can reply. Neither of us realized that I said I would buy the proxies. They are less than $10 so I didnt really see it as an issue and you can even find free ones. You just made an issue out of it because you could not come up with any other reason to get your money back when you realized you were to lazy to work.

I never said it was custom I told you I had him make changes to fit my needs and you were told the software came from someone on here. You knew this and I can post skype message if you insist that you were not aware of it. But again you do not need proxies until you scale up so I will ask again what were you not provided that you could not start the method? You keep bringing up stupid stuff like how many people use my skype and how much is paid for the software per month to avoid the point which is you were provided everything you needed and you made the choice not to work and now you want your money back and for me to waste a lot of my time because you didnt work. You were told how much the cost was up front and you agreed and now that you want your money back the amount is the issue. Were you told the cost up front and did you agree? Did you do any work?

abhi007 said:

so what are you trying to say here?

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What that means is I offered on skype and here to provide you the proxies when you need them. I did tell you I would provide them and I will. I have said it more than once. You said no you didnt want them. Go read the last skype message I sent you and it said that if I promised you proxies I would provide them....go read it and tell me I am wrong. If not I can post the screen shot.

You said it is a custom version of it....also show us where is the price $125 plz. would like to see it...i was not lazy to work i have other stuff too i just thought at the time i paid for the JV i would be free but no i also had some other issues like applying for jobs and other marketing stuff...also once again this thread is not an excuse i just dont think we both can work together seriously tough getting hold you also it is not that easy as it seems...you basically lied on first instance that you were the only one using the method common that means it's a misleading method..do you want me to link me to your JV thread??????? you said you are basically the ONLY guy in the whole world using the method also getting the software and the script was just an excuse to mislead users.....this method doesnt sound as easy as you say lol......

bmac said:

What that means is I offered on skype and here to provide you the proxies when you need them. I did tell you I would provide them and I will. I have said it more than once. You said no you didnt want them. Go read the last skype message I sent you and it said that if I promised you proxies I would provide them....go read it and tell me I am wrong. If not I can post the screen shot.

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when did i said i did not want the proxies...i cant seem to find those chats can you plz. link me???

I told you the cost is $125 and you agreed to pay that...right or wrong? I paid him $100 and then $19 a month and I have spent a lot of hours with them getting features that I needed so I ask the jv members to cover some of that cost. I have to pay employees and my time as well as my monthly fees like hosting, taxes, ect. I think I told you $225 not $125 but the bottom line is two months ago I told you those cost and you were fine with them and then when you get to busy to run the jv you want that money back after I have spend a lot of time on your project.

You say it is not as easy as I said. How do you know you never even did anything so how can you judge how difficult it is when you never did the first thing. As far as common find me one person who is doing this other than those who worked with me....just one. Find hin and I wil happily refund your payment in full. You think because some guy like vdrill who I have never even spoke to says it is common then it is. That guy dont even know what the method is so how does he know. And lets here from vdrill. Show me where this method is posted someone online since it is so common.

abhi007 said:

when did i said i did not want the proxies...i cant seem to find those chats can you plz. link me???

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plz. can you find this chat for me....yea so $125 cost doesnt add up dont you think.

I am done wasting three hours of my time with screen shots. What is the very last thing I said to you on skype? It says if I said I would provide you with proxies I would so do you want the proxies? As far as the $125 add up I dont know what you mean. I told you $225 to start the jv and that is what you paid so what is there to add up. Had you had a problem with the amount address it prior to starting not two months later when you tell me that you didnt have time to do anything and then want your money back.

bmac said:

I had no reason to end the jv or expect a non compete clause because the jv was for me to get 50% of the revenues. He refused to continue with the new owner of the business. I dont need a non compete as long as he was willing to agree to continue the method with the new owner of the business but he was not. Then he was told that he could continue the jv and he refused that as well.

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Dude don't lie. When you came up with the buyer thing, you mentioned only that he will buy the business. And I refused to sign an agreement with him, which is my full right and not part of the JV terms. Would you sign an agreement with a buyer of MY house? Would you sign an agreement with a buyer of MY house, while I owe you money for the paint job?

bmac said:

He was owed $167 paid already before the jv was ended but not all of the $1638 has been paid yet.

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Don't lie for this too, you owe me 167$ from october as well. I will provide screenshots if needed. The only part that is not paid to you is money from december which will be paid in january by Google (326$). So go ahead and pay me 1638$ - 326$ = 1312$ (october and november), that you have been paid.

bmac said:

I have said many times as long as he agrees to stick to the agreement and I get 50% of the earnings if he uses the method I have no prob paying him but many times he has refused to do so. you say "pay that amount immediately -no further delay - period". I have no issue with that as long as you will be responsible for ensuring the agreement is followed and any earnings are paid from the use of the method. I had told him many many times prior to him posting here that I had no issue paying him as long as he agreed to those terms that he would continue to follow the terms of the JV and he refused to do so and now by posting here he has put all the funds not paid at risk.

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"many times he has refused to do so" - this can be put out of context. I never worked with the method on my own, but yes, I refuse to sign any agreements for you and your buyers. And I refuse to continue working with you as well or for your buyer.

I already proved that you never asked for agreements from other guys and I know that many of them are working the method on their own too, and I know that you know it. So this is just bullshit and you are a scammer as the title says. I want you to know that if you don't pay me and get yourself banned it will not be over. Better pay what you owe.

I dont think you provided the custom version to me with all the fixes he has done for you...also you just provided the mediafire link....i would appreciate if Indianbill007 can chime in here and confirm that he sold a custom software with all the features this guy wanted to us....also why would you keep on paying $19 every month considering the fact that i have not even started dont you think that's a bit weird? so you basically you have paid like $57 is what you paid for 3 months????

and you would have kept paying that figure even though i did not start the work??????

I told you that you could just keep doing the jv and pay the buyer the 50%....true or not? You said no...true or not...read the old skype. Then I told you I would pay you but you did have to agree to continue the agreement and that anything earned using this method I got 50% and again you refuse. So a simple yes or no if you use this method will I get 50% of it? You have said no above several times. I am not going to honor the terms of the jv if you are not.

And you actually said in our original conversation that you would pay $500 but $300 now and work the rest off. Go read the original skype so no that amount owed is not correct.


You were the only one using the method at the time which is why I ask you to sign the agreement. The others that are using this method were not doing the exact same thing as you. And I did tell you if you made this information public you would not be paid. Oldsalt has an issue with that yet he sees no issue with threatening to ban my account if I dont reply so what is the difference in tell me you will ban my account if I dont reply in 48 hours and me telling him if he post all this info in public view and risk my accounts and causing all the issues he has caused I would not pay him.

Now others including those like abhi007 who did no work want their money back. So now I should eat the cost of the past two months of operations and all the time spent because you refuse to follow the terms. Before you posted this I told you it was fine that you didnt have to sign an agreement with the buyer but you did have to follow the terms of the jv and you have refused. Oldsalt feel free to ban this account at this point I dont care. I have contributed much more than I have ever got from this forum so do what you have to do I am done wasting time with this.

Vdrill you have no idea what you are talking about but you do prove a point that this info should not have been made public. I no longer use this method so I dont really care but there is one guy who still does and idiots like the OP screwed that up for him. But nothing in any screen shots gave out the method. Sure many people use that site and the software to make money but not the exact method.

I am happy to fulfill any obligations that I have with anyone provided you upheld your end of the deal. If you were lazy and had other things you had to do other than take care of the worked needed for the JV then no I am not spending a ton of time and training you just to refund your money two months later. You can do some work and earn your money back.

bmac said:

I told you that you could just keep doing the jv and pay the buyer the 50%....true or not? You said no...true or not...read the old skype. Then I told you I would pay you but you did have to agree to continue the agreement and that anything earned using this method I got 50% and again you refuse. So a simple yes or no if you use this method will I get 50% of it? You have said no above several times. I am not going to honor the terms of the jv if you are not.

And you actually said in our original conversation that you would pay $500 but $300 now and work the rest off. Go read the original skype so no that amount owed is not correct.

You were the only one using the method at the time which is why I ask you to sign the agreement. The others that are using this method were not doing the exact same thing as you. And I did tell you if you made this information public you would not be paid. Oldsalt has an issue with that yet he sees no issue with threatening to ban my account if I dont reply so what is the difference in tell me you will ban my account if I dont reply in 48 hours and me telling him if he post all this info in public view and risk my accounts and causing all the issues he has caused I would not pay him.

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Dude you have big issues, again you are repeating yourself, lying, and playing dumb.

I already said everything I had in previous posts go and read them. I will wait for the decision of OldSalt.

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You know I would even call this some sort of misunderstanding at the JV start, but knowing you for these 3 months and with your history of scamming other people, it is simply not. When they kick your a*s from here it will not be over, you will pay that money, in one way or another.

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And that he is leaving the joint venture and forcing you to join the same joint venture with somebody else you dont even know and you wont agree on that. ...... You are not a good which can be sold to any other person without your agreement.

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As I said oldsalt can ban the account I do not care but be really careful who you make threats to

I have said many times as long as he agrees to stick to the agreement and I get 50% of the earnings if he uses the method I have no prob paying him but many times he has refused to do so. you say "pay that amount immediately -no further delay - period". I have no issue with that as long as you will be responsible for ensuring the agreement is followed and any earnings are paid from the use of the method. I had told him many many times prior to him posting here that I had no issue paying him as long as he agreed to those terms that he would continue to follow the terms of the JV and he refused to do so and now by posting here he has put all the funds not paid at risk.

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Listen, I am getting really tired of your attitude really fast.


BMAC, I am not going to be responsible for him paying you or not going forward - it's YOUR JV and YOUR JV partner. I have said this before and I'm going to say it one more time - what you owe him is NOT contingent upon any agreement going forward. It IS what you already owe him. So, you are to pay him - and you have 48 hours to pay him what you've been paid by Adsnese for. As HepiSmajli pointed out, you have been paid for Oct and Nov - so you currently have $1312 that is owed to him.


As far as you and Abhi007, my decision still stands. I found a failed JV where both of you were at fault. You are to refund him $112.50 - half of the payment to you.


You have 48 hours to pay that amount to both or you will be banned. A week to wake you up at first and if they're not paid by the time that temp ban is completed, perma-banned.


As I've said in other threads - the clock is ticking.


It's your 8 year old account - and your choice.


@Vrill, I left your first comment stand, but stay out of this unless you are directly involved.


@HepiSmajli, you need to read the PS in my first post about keeping it professional. I have removed your last post.


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I told you to ban the account or I can just close it. My attitude is based your response. You are right it is my jv which is why I dont see how you feel it is your call to tell me what I need to do and dont need to do so as I said ban the account. Moving forward if both people agree to fulfill the terms of the JV they will be paid. Otherwise they will not. He has made threats and who is say he will not do something once paid and honestly it is non of your business. Ban the account, in 8 years I have posted 400 post so obviously I am not that active here and this is the type of people you tend to find on this site anyway. The OP had ripped off other members methods and done some other things that I will not post publicly that did cause some distrust.

And there is info he did post such as the original agreement was he paid $500 and some was to be paid out of earnings which he failed to mention. I know the entire story and so does he. I did offer the other guy half his money back and he said no and that was more than I should have offered because he was told up front that the very reason to pay up front was most guys never would do any work.

BMAC Perma-banned

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So Bmac was basically selling a crack version from what i see...what a big cheat...provides support CRAP as fuck and does not abide by the JV rules and keeps on repeating the same points which no sense whatsoever...has 2 kids to support i wonder what kind of ethics he is going to teach them

Is it possible now to put his skype name uncensored "Jo*n Dav*s" in the title, now when it is clear he is a scammer and it is his fake name. He will register again under a different nickname and will scam somebody else. His main email also is [email protected]

The email [email protected] is related to these domains :
1. ktsservers.com
2. napinsurancellc.com