blog networks getting deindexed

seoguru13 said:

Couldn't agree more with you. Logic is simple, if the best links come post panda from blog networks, you can't have your worst shit of content going on them! If the content was unique, even if it came up for manual review, there's a mild chance you'd have survived.

Even then for making the site look natural, I'd throw in some popular video shares, add a few links free content, limit the homepage OBL to less than 30-40. It might be costly, but worth alllll the money.

Giving away reports is another major hassle. Can be difficult to sell when you do not provide reports, but the moment you give our reports, you get SB blasts or AMR links built onto that post ringing google's bells.

As someone sells here, your network's gotta be shhhh !

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Hate to burst your bubble, but it's easy as fuck to get the links even if you don't give out a report.

DamageX said:

Hate to burst your bubble, but it's easy as fuck to get the links even if you don't give out a report.

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Absolutely mate.. There are a hundred ways to get the links, even if no report is provided. However, in the case of a report, you're just asking for trouble.

No agenda here..... (nice sig banner) hahaha - what a joke. I wouldn't be suprised if you are the person reporting everyones links.

Yes, I lost about 50 sites in January, but implying that 99% of my network is de-indexed is complete shit and 100% untrue - I have replaced the domains and my network is still delivering awesome results.

I have replaced many domains twice in January and have lost patience in sending out reports to people because of the huge cost on my shoulders in replacing domains.

In all fairness, having your blog network reported for spam SHOULD NOT do a damn thing if you are running your network correctly. Google does not deindex quality sites.

MrE said:

No agenda here..... (nice sig banner) hahaha - what a joke. I wouldn't be suprised if you are the person reporting everyones links.

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I have to agree with MrE here,

Are you trying to get free advertising to your blog network by calling out other blog networks?

Seems to me that there are many ways in which the big G could take issue with services like these.

It seems highly odd, that the OP is running a competing service and has posted in a number of other BST's regarding his competitors alleged short comings, when he is subject to the very same limitations.

I have atm around 640 blogs in my private network and as I checked 50 of them after seeing this thread - all are indexed.

As long as you do not do anything stupid Google will leave you when deindexing others as your content is 100% readable and your site can act as article directory (mostly article directories blasted with Spun articles get de-indexed only - copy content is OK with Google for those - example: manually approved directories).

I just checked one test domain that was de-indexed few months ago for hitting it hard with Spam links (100K a day for few weeks) and now it looks like it is back and even it shows 7500+ indexed pages (100% copied content, Wordpress - WP Robot).
So the problem here is probably spun, unreadable content.

ExtraWinner said:

So the problem here is probably spun, unreadable content.

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Interesting test! That would make sense though as I'm sure sites go through a manual review before getting deindexed. There is no reason to deindex a site with copied content, it just wouldn't rank well.

thetroglodyte said:

Interesting test! That would make sense though as I'm sure sites go through a manual review before getting deindexed. There is no reason to deindex a site with copied content, it just wouldn't rank well.

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Yeah - as long as content is 100% readable - it is OK.
Copied or not - it is working and manual reviewer have no ground really to de-index such a domain.
Heavily Spun content is what get in nerves of Google since Panda.
Maybe others can chime in their experiences also. Reporting networks seems to be a problem lately also...

Expertpeon said:

These blog networks are:
1) very poorly put together
2) accepting extremely poor content (50% 1 level spun crap)
3) interlinking between each blog.

Many of them have all 3 of these problems.
These networks are effective (assuming you use them right, and not just send your article to them and expect results with no effort put in).
However, the major, major issue here is that they're accepting anything...
The crap people stick on these things is outrageous.

It quickly becomes apparent why few people make any money in SEO by how their spun content looks.

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100% agree. I don't see why these blog networks use this spun garbage. If someone would do a nice sized blog network that offered even the slightest value to readers it would be a long term investment rather than riding the spun content bubble that will explode any day now if it has not already.

This is nothing new. Blog networks get de-indexed all the time.
I have seen BMR sites get wiped out, and crap networks too.
I agree with MrE. Agenda written all over this thread.

zen19 said:

Seems to me that there are many ways in which the big G could take issue with services like these.

It seems highly odd, that the OP is running a competing service and has posted in a number of other BST's regarding his competitors alleged short comings, when he is subject to the very same limitations.

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Nah mate, this is untrue. I ordered 5 times the service in my sig, and I just got the biggest offer from them further for the place in my sig.

I have enough proof for this, where you can see the conversation in my PM when I first talked with the seller, and the PMs when we agreed about the sig-space for the order.

Actually that network got also a "few" sites deindexed, but he contacted me that he will replace all missing one's asap - Also in my PM.

MrE said:

No agenda here..... (nice sig banner) hahaha - what a joke. I wouldn't be suprised if you are the person reporting everyones links.

Yes, I lost about 50 sites in January, but implying that 99% of my network is de-indexed is complete shit and 100% untrue - I have replaced the domains and my network is still delivering awesome results.

I have replaced many domains twice in January and have lost patience in sending out reports to people because of the huge cost on my shoulders in replacing domains.

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Ok, now you start hating on me because I was the one, informing others that you continue to sell links, without letting people know what happended with your sites.

Not only that, you also palm untrue stuff on me, without evidence only based on speculative. Keep that for the shit-list, not here.

Give me your permission and I'm going to make all the sites public here so that everyone can see, where you have put my links from the last order and everyone can check on himself, how many are exactly deindexed.

Sounds fair, doesn't it?

Other seller flx89 from Magic Hat Network also already PM'ed me that he will replace all the links asap.
This is how to deal in a professionall manner in a situation like this.

I bought a lot of more packages from your service before for clients of mine, and you didn't inform me anything about domains you have replaced, getting deindexed, etc.

Letting the funny thing out, that I should be the one reporting the site's, whereas I spent hundreds of dollars on them for links that's parainoid man.

You have to understand me - I look at your previous report, check how many are indexed and get that awull number.
Next page, different seller, similar thing. This is where I also posted what happened.

schwagoo said:

Seems to be happening more and more these days. But I know that some of these guys constantly add high pr domains to their networks

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I guess, this is what separates a good seller from a hit-and-run seller.

ExtraWinner said:

I have atm around 640 blogs in my private network and as I checked 50 of them after seeing this thread - all are indexed.

As long as you do not do anything stupid Google will leave you when deindexing others as your content is 100% readable and your site can act as article directory (mostly article directories blasted with Spun articles get de-indexed only - copy content is OK with Google for those - example: manually approved directories).

I just checked one test domain that was de-indexed few months ago for hitting it hard with Spam links (100K a day for few weeks) and now it looks like it is back and even it shows 7500+ indexed pages (100% copied content, Wordpress - WP Robot).
So the problem here is probably spun, unreadable content.

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This should be very right, as also already said by Expertoen.
All the deindexed one's had very poor spinning; Basically, only spinnin the words.

Whereas for example in Bear's network, I had the possibility to use my own German one's, with 4 sentences spinned for each original sentence, spinning paragraphs, etc.

So, as long as you put in well spun content, everything should be allright.

The penalty could be automatically, s.th. among: If x-pages have a x-percantage alarm of spun content = deindex.

I would like to add to this discussion. Please, keep in mind that I have nothing to do with any of the networks. I recently bought Magic Hat Blogs services as well as Bear network services.

When I trim to root the domains in Scrapebox and check Google indexed with private proxies, the results are as follows:

Magic Hat Blogs PR 1 and more: 175 indexed out of 328
Magic Hat Blogs PR 0: 72 indexed out of 300 (I checked just a sample of 1000 I ordered)
Bear's Network (the network OP advertises in his signature): 64 indexed of 120

I am pretty much disappointed... Although Bear's network has best results (and from the way the posts are written and published cares the most about the sustainability and quality of the network), still for the price it is not worth it.

I spent here around $400 weak ago for this networks, and to see this is pretty disappointing...

Kikerinka said:

I would like to add to this discussion. Please, keep in mind that I have nothing to do with any of the networks. I recently bought Magic Hat Blogs services as well as Bear network services.

When I trim to root the domains in Scrapebox and check Google indexed with private proxies, the results are as follows:

Magic Hat Blogs PR 1 and more: 175 indexed out of 328
Magic Hat Blogs PR 0: 72 indexed out of 300 (I checked just a sample of 1000 I ordered)
Bear's Network (the network OP advertises in his signature): 64 indexed of 120

I am pretty much disappointed... Although Bear's network has best results (and from the way the posts are written and published cares the most about the sustainability and quality of the network), still for the price it is not worth it.

I spent here around $400 weak ago for this networks, and to see this is pretty disappointing...

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Hit both sellers up with your order, they will re-do the missing links!

The LINKS are not missing... The blogs they use are Deindexed... I have there links, but what is chance that the article will be indexed if the Root Domain is deindexed? There is no chance, just to let you know.

Anyway, I am tired of these blog networks. From my experience, once a site has links and these links get deindexed, it's even worse then if the site had no links at all. I will contact the sellers to reclaim funds, that's it!

albaniax said:

Hit both sellers up with your order, they will re-do the missing links!

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Kikerinka said:

The LINKS are not missing... The blogs they use are Deindexed... I have there links, but what is chance that the article will be indexed if the Root Domain is deindexed? There is no chance, just to let you know.

Anyway, I am tired of these blog networks. From my experience, once a site has links and these links get deindexed, it's even worse then if the site had no links at all. I will contact the sellers to reclaim funds, that's it!

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This is what I meant, they will put your link on new domains with same PR.

But yeah, I won't put my future SEO campaigns on blog networks aswell, except of only a few site's.

Most of the pages with links from "previous" indexed blog networks, got hit hard in the rankings.

Whereas other page's with quality links, web 2.0, authority profiles, etc. stayed where they belong.

Maybe put our competitors links on these blog networks. That will really mess things up for google?

goads said:

Maybe put our competitors links on these blog networks. That will really mess things up for google?

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