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blog networks getting deindexed

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by albaniax, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. albaniax

    albaniax Elite Member

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    What's up with that, I just checked the domains of booked services, and these are already deindexed:

    - High PR blog posts from MrE 99% deindexed
    - Pagerank Burst - 32/35 deindexed
    - Magic Black Hat 120/128 deindexed
    - Napsters service is 10/26 deindexed, whereas the PR 6 and 2x PR 5 are gone in the dust
    ..?

    Is this a Google Panda update and occured because a new algorithmus which figures these sites out, and deindexes them automatically?

    Or do we have a Google snitch over here who bought the services, and then they deindexed them by hand?
     
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  2. blackhataffiliate

    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    I though something was going on since some of my back links were deindexed, but really did not think about a possible panda smack or a snitch. Wonder what will happen to those sites that have been using blog networks for back links?
     
  3. Expertpeon

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    These blog networks are:
    1) very poorly put together
    2) accepting extremely poor content (50% 1 level spun crap)
    3) interlinking between each blog.

    Many of them have all 3 of these problems.
    These networks are effective (assuming you use them right, and not just send your article to them and expect results with no effort put in).
    However, the major, major issue here is that they're accepting anything...
    The crap people stick on these things is outrageous.

    It quickly becomes apparent why few people make any money in SEO by how their spun content looks.

     
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  4. dannistone

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    Cheers Albaniax for alerting us to this and posting in all related threads.

    My opinion is that Google buys the services, then they deindex blogs. A few months ago there was a similar thing happening with homepage link networks.

    Also, if a G engineer targets a few painfully obvious spammy sites it is easy to get their links and just deindex the obviously spun crap sites they get links from.
     
  5. jon_xx_x

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    I've canceled almost all my subscriptions.
    I think it's as simple as google searching for homepages with 90+ OBL, then probably finding ones that link to the same sites, and deindex them.

    And going more on what ExpertPeon said, most these networks are shit. Not talking about the ones mentioned specifically, but a lot of these guys a) don't know what they're doing or/and b) don't give a shit what they are doing. I mean I see absolute shit PR domains in auction that have 1 backlink and have a PR3+. I'm sure a lot of these networks buy those and use them, when in reality, they are worthless. And I've seen so many fake PR sites used in networks lately as well.
     
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    Seems to be happening more and more these days. But I know that some of these guys constantly add high pr domains to their networks
     
  7. dannistone

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    That redirection trick some people were using recently to build some fake PR until a PR update took place did a lot of damage! Too many people selling spots on shitty high PR domains.
     
  8. Expertpeon

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    Agreed
    Just to be clear, a few such services exist and do work, and are probably worth it.
    Unfortunately linkvana needs to allow for 30-40 blogposts/day per domain, rather than 5...
    BMR, however, may just make it. Their blogs are almost always legit.

    These networks may survive because 1) They actually grammar check the horrible crap people seethe out 2) they're not pushing out 20-30 posts/domain/day
    99% of SEOers are lazy, illiterate retards. This is probably the biggest footprint for google.
     
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    As harsh as you may sound, I have to agree with you here. BMR is strict as crazy when it comes to grammar - they actually scan through your entire post.
     
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    That makes sense that people are saying their ranks dropped including some of my sites.
     
  11. hispdcha

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    I started a thread on this exact subject just over a month ago. I knew this was going to happen and it's pretty fkin obvious. People just don't understand that a quick fix never works, especially when dealing with the idiots who don't really know a damn thing about SEO.

    I feel bad for those who buy these packages and see great results, leave a review in the thread, to then have their sites drop a couple weeks later or when the networks get shit on by big G. You spin garbage and give people access to their links on your private networks and it'll soon be gone. Spinning garbage content onto your private network is not in the best interest of the client, it's only to make money, which is good for the service provider, but not for the clients.

    You want your site to last? Take the time to hide your footprints, don't spin garbage content, and sure as hell don't buy links on private networks being sold in a blackhat forum. It'll work for a while, but eventually those sites will get demoted/de-indexed and your site will drop/get penalized. Simple as that.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...n-articles-your-blog-networks-i-dont-get.html
     
  12. Expertpeon

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    I have several sites I donate to ALN/AR (makes more sense than paying for the service)
    I get like 90-100 attempted posts a day, and I approve ~5 on each domain (You can usually eliminate 75% just by how dumbly spun the titles are).

    Here's a line from one of the posts that came in today:
    "If you possess the parasite called the Fluke within you, and after that in case you have isopropyl alcohol inside"

    This is someone going after "e-cigarette" (one of the most competitive SEO terms in the world right now)

    Yeah, I'm sure you'll rank it :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I never really bought many private blog services and just started about a month ago, I just noticed a recent purchase I made just had 1k blogs de-indexed! I'm part of another blog network and have some of my own and they're fine (knock on wood) so I'm guessing it's either a competitor, bhw hater or G had people buy packages and de-index them. I really don't think it's a algorithm change. If you were G and wanted to start getting rid of private blog networks, wouldn't you think they would start at the biggest bh site? Maybe it's an algo change just really hard to believe.
     
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    It's because the owners aren't dripping in the content slow enough and letting it post randomly to different blogs when it does post and the bogs are typically interlinked and they get hit with too much scrapebox crap. It ends up begging for a manual review. Then a human sees really poorly spun content so BOOM the whole thing is mass deindexed.
     
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    How to build a network and have it last:

    1. - Don't spin garbage content on it. You can do some nice re-writing or super spin the content to be a very nice and readable article, but the spun garbage is dead.

    2. - Don't put your network for sale on a BH forum and give people reports of their links. You'll get reported by a competitor or someone will get mad at you and report your network or big G has Matt Cutts sitting behind his computer at G headquarters sipping coffee and banning BHW networks for fun when he's board.
     
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    Nice work Albaniax in pointing this out. I personally saw that coming long time ago. Many of these owners are focusing on serving more clients in a shorter period of time rather than working on the networks themselves.
     
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    They were getting greedy. Their own fault.
     
  18. LinkOil

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    Blog Farms are out, mate. We realized that a few months ago, and hence started a new service in which we buy posts from various individual bloggers, forming the backbone of the link building package. But then, like others said, the people you worked with have probably not worked hard enough on indexing.
     
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    I'm glad you had a previous report to check albaniax.

    I just knew MrE was hiding something. He wasn't responding with any logic. Instead of telling the truth, he tried to continue selling on the basis of high pr.
     
  20. seoguru13

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    Couldn't agree more with you. Logic is simple, if the best links come post panda from blog networks, you can't have your worst shit of content going on them! If the content was unique, even if it came up for manual review, there's a mild chance you'd have survived.

    Even then for making the site look natural, I'd throw in some popular video shares, add a few links free content, limit the homepage OBL to less than 30-40. It might be costly, but worth alllll the money.

    Giving away reports is another major hassle. Can be difficult to sell when you do not provide reports, but the moment you give our reports, you get SB blasts or AMR links built onto that post ringing google's bells.

    As someone sells here, your network's gotta be shhhh !