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BHW member Erik Creed JV SCAM

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Gorush, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Gorush

    Gorush Power Member

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    BHW NICK: Eric Creed

    Profil link: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/13648-erik-creed.html

    BHW Thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-invest-little-money-i-guarantee-results.html


    Well long story short:

    He got money of serveral BHW members and ever since that he isnt able to get in touch with.

    I transfered the money (900$) via bankwire , because he had problems with paypal. He seemed like a very legit guy.
    A lot of reputable members backed him up - and also he had a good itrader account. Now this reputable members got "tricked" too.



    If I am allowed I will post all Data I have from him.


    thanks a lot
     
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  2. BigBuddy

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    @gorush - I will let you know, when should post his personal details. Till then, i request members who invested money in his JV to post your amount details , interact with each other and try to catch him.
     
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    Oh man sorry to hear that. Now I knew why he was pushing me to pay using Western Union.

    You guys don't leave him until you get all your money back.
     
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  4. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    sorry to hear this, good luck getting your money back but tbh if he has gone i doubt you will see that money again.....
     
  5. redstone.1337

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    Damn :eek: Too many reputed members in shit list these days.
     
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  6. thefreshmaker

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    that sucks, sorry to hear that
     
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    If you can fill out police reports that would be a good idea. That should get him out of the cave and start replying here.
     
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  8. IamNRE

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    I thought he started the JV on the 23rd of July....

    so its only been 15 days.... where as he says the the investors will get their money back by month 6.

    Why the need for shit thread so early on.... maybe he is on holiday.
     
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    23rd of june ;)
     
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  10. Dark Knight

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    Maybe he is dead cause he has cancer :eek: or might be he is in the hospital or something who knows.
     
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  11. Gorush

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    Well lets first wait and make a list!
    some other people also sent money to him.
     
  12. businessbira

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    I wired him 625 euro.

    And he may be on the beach, but fuck it, I want my money back. You don't ask members to join your JV, send you money and then disappear, wheter you have the time of your life or you are going under surgery. He took our money, it's up to him to keep up with the commitment.

    And if he's no scammer, he will come back online sooner or later, he will see this thread and will refund anybody who asks for it.

    But he probably knows we are all waiting for his replies, he was online on skype for a minute or so a few days ago and a few of us tried to get a hold of him. He has never been online ever since.

    His name is Mehmet Aksoy, if you search the name online, there is turkish sculptur ("one of the major sculptors in modern Turkey", wikipedia) with the same name. It should be fun to build a site to expose his scam and rank it for the name.

    It shouldn't be hard, especially if we combine our efforts. It could be a reason for him to finally reach out and give us our money back. Then we would take the site down.

    The police report is a good idea. Legal action against him should be considered, since we are a good bunch and all our money combined should be more than a few thausands.

    Let's see how many we are.

    PS: this is what another member trying to help wrote on the JV thread

    "He is not accepting any phone calls on his regular phone number, I did a research to find an alternate phone number and found this: +46735867998 and when I called the second number he says he's not I'm talking about which I cannot really verify

    I don't believe him at the fourth point, I think it's Eric on the number I found, simply because there is one person in the phone registry in Sweden with the name Mehmet Aksoy which he provided to a BHW member. To verify my claim, you can see this page: http://se.linkedin.com/pub/mehmet-aksoy/31/497/302
    an internet professional with the name Mehmet Aksoy and resides in Sweden."

    I can provide his address since it was in the info he provided me for the bank wire. (I'll PM it, for now)
     
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  13. ch8878

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    Next time when someone says they can't use PayPal say no thanks !!
     
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    I'm out 1,200.00 and would be glad to give a copy of the WU to whomever needs it.

    The WU was sent 07/02/2011.
     
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  15. drogon

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    To be honest all you need to do is research is previous Clickbank products and all have failed. Second, when someone has 'problems with PayPay' is big fat red flag and finally if he was doing so well with good record and good history then why would he need your money to launch new products?

    I will never participate in a JV with someone i dont know epecially when the JV involves cold hard cash. This is a blach hat forum and the last place to be looking for business partners. The great thing about IM is there are so many ways to make money online working for yourself with the need for for JVs.
     
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  16. SilverSultan

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    Bass Tracker you in this 1,200 dollars? :faint2:
    Hope you guys get your money back, and find the guy :zx11pisse
    this is why many good JV ventures fail and no one trusts anyone anymore
     
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  17. GreyWolf

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    Well, I hate to see when these kind of things happen. Eric had been on the forum for awhile and built up a bit of rep. I'm sure he had the best of intentions, but it looks like there were a lot of assumptions being made on his part that he was counting on to make some guarantees.

    It isn't unusual that someone needs capital for a project, that's what venture capitalists are for. They'll invest money into an idea that they are sure will work, but they understand that if it doesn't then they'll lose the investment. That's why those type investors take such a high percentage when they invest in a project.

    The little guy with a project like Eric described isn't going to find any venture capitalists to invest, and the little guy with very little money to invest can't fund the typical ventures that will make them a lot of money either.

    Basically his jv looks like it was offering is that type of deal to small investors that typically would never be able to fund a real VC type project. That isn't necessarily a bad thing (it's basically what JVs are typically for) as long as it's understood that the project will have to succeed in order to make a profit. In other words, there's really no guarantee.

    It looks like he had some kind of plan that if everything went right would have made him and the investors a lot of money. The problem is that things don't always go as planned, and when they don't... Well... where is the money supposed to come from to honor the guarantees he was making in the thread?

    As an investor you should really look closely at a deal where someone offers these type of guarantees. If it looks to good to be true, then you should always consider it a highrisk investment. What if the proposed plan doesn't succeed? Where will the money come from to refund your investment? If someone has enough money to give all the money back to the investors in case something goes wrong, then why does he need the investors at all? These are things that should be looked at before sending someone your money.

    Like I said, I'm sure Eric had all the best intentions, I'm just wary about those 'You have nothing to lose but A LOT to gain' type of guarantees. It just isn't realistic to make guarantees based on an expected on success which is typically what's going on in these deals.

    Maybe things are still going as planned and he'll actually get back to everyone about it. I hope so because I hate to keep seeing things like this turning up in the shitlist.
     
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  18. kelvin.thechamp

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    When 300$ for 1 year tuning to 50k :p i think JV section should be reviewed too like bst section i seen 3-4 shitlisted form jv in letely
     
  19. scottx1995

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    I put in 600$ paid through alertpay.com

    yes he did say 6 months wait time but he did say the sites will be ready to roll in about 2 weeks or something from the investment, but as soon as he received the money, he went missing never to see this guy online ever after, appears here after 3 weeks assures its all fine and that he will be online once every 2 days, then disappears again.

    its not the wait that bothers people around here, it is the lack of communication and the fact that he didn keep up his end of the bargain as to maintaining commmunication during the process.
    he even came back after 3 weeks.. sayin.. his internet was down for 4 days but that doesn make up for the 3 weeks of absense.plus the numerous mails all those people who invested in him asked him for.
     
  20. MrE

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    Anyone who GUARANTEE'S you a 300% ROI in 6 months wouldn't be asking for your money in the first place, they can print their own.....

    Best of luck to everyone in recovering their funds, & hopefully you perform better due diligence next time.
     
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