GreyKnight
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I breath code, I live in framework and I will always speak in object-oriented fashion.
BHW Do you think anyone can be a Good Programmer ?
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Yes and No.
Yes anyone can be a good programmer,but being a good programmers does not mean you can make good softwares.
To write a good software the coding part is only half of the work, the second half is the logic and algorithms of your software.
But if you are asking if anyone can become a good programmer with both skills like remembering the code and solve the logic behind the software then i must say No.
I know a lot of "good programmers" but many of them fail to think outside the box,and they have spend years to master coding at school.
However i am very good at the logic parts of the software and suck at remembering codes so i constant have to use cheat sheets to look up code when i am programming.
It's pretty much the same story as with seo,you can spend years on school to learn seo but it does not make you good at it.
I always sucked at school but i beat the hell out of everyone that when't to school to learn seo,again it all comes down to thinking outside that box.
One of the reason i think it's easy for me to beat the people with high education is that they have been spoon feed for years on how to think and solve problems at school.
Yes anyone can be a good programmer,but being a good programmers does not mean you can make good softwares.
To write a good software the coding part is only half of the work, the second half is the logic and algorithms of your software.
But if you are asking if anyone can become a good programmer with both skills like remembering the code and solve the logic behind the software then i must say No.
I know a lot of "good programmers" but many of them fail to think outside the box,and they have spend years to master coding at school.
However i am very good at the logic parts of the software and suck at remembering codes so i constant have to use cheat sheets to look up code when i am programming.
It's pretty much the same story as with seo,you can spend years on school to learn seo but it does not make you good at it.
I always sucked at school but i beat the hell out of everyone that when't to school to learn seo,again it all comes down to thinking outside that box.
One of the reason i think it's easy for me to beat the people with high education is that they have been spoon feed for years on how to think and solve problems at school.
Junkfood00
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Most replies in this thread seem to be written by freelancers and not employees.
I'm a programming student myself and I've been in contact with the local businesses and many claim that the specific task of writing code takes like 20% of their time. The rest of the time is spent on design, optimization, maintenance, evaluations etc.
Working as a freelancer might make a huge income but what kind of dull life is that! Get a degree and go work for corporations and collaborate with people, work in teams, have some social life at the same time. You can also have your own side projects, I'm not saying you can't have but it's only you who can steer your life the way you want.
I'm a programming student myself and I've been in contact with the local businesses and many claim that the specific task of writing code takes like 20% of their time. The rest of the time is spent on design, optimization, maintenance, evaluations etc.
Working as a freelancer might make a huge income but what kind of dull life is that! Get a degree and go work for corporations and collaborate with people, work in teams, have some social life at the same time. You can also have your own side projects, I'm not saying you can't have but it's only you who can steer your life the way you want.
jazzc
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If you need your job to get a social life, you are well suited to be an employee. For the rest of us, meh.
Junkfood00
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Coding is not as owning a website and having auto-pilot income. You actually have to work many hours everyday and I'd rather work in a fun atmosphere than sit at home 1/3 of the day. Working as an employee is not just about relocating, it's more about meeting people, working in team, making contacts, getting all the employee benefits, parties with colleagues etc. I take it, you've never been outside your basement.
srb888
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Qualities to become a good programmer:
Time
Passion for programming
Aptitude to learn quickly and systematically
Mind that can do quick and focused analytical/logical reasoning
Will to keep learning advanced and new techniques
Lot more time...
Getting up again and working better, smarter, and harder after a failure... err, make it 'many failures'...
blah...
blah, blah...
blah, blah, blah...
Don't forget: a will to ask and get upfront payment if and when you get your first few freelance assignments, and always after that
Time
Passion for programming
Aptitude to learn quickly and systematically
Mind that can do quick and focused analytical/logical reasoning
Will to keep learning advanced and new techniques
Lot more time...
Getting up again and working better, smarter, and harder after a failure... err, make it 'many failures'...
blah...
blah, blah...
blah, blah, blah...
Don't forget: a will to ask and get upfront payment if and when you get your first few freelance assignments, and always after that
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jazzc
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Who said coding is little work? It must be very pitiful in your own atmosphere if you need to resort to other peoples ones.
As I said, if you have to resort to your job to get a social life, you are prime material for an employee. You 're saying the same, so why you did you get upset?
Damn, you got me! All these years, I 'm in a wet, dark basement, with light only from the screen. I even have hamsters running around to create electricity to be able to open the lamp!
Was it perhaps some thought you had on the water cooler when chatting idly with some coworker?
Junkfood00
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I'm not upset, I'm always cool, just get a bit aggressive. (Downside of the internet..)
Ok, I think we're going in circles. But remember that I also freelance so I have no problems with that.
(Downside of the internet..)Ok, I think we're going in circles. But remember that I also freelance so I have no problems with that.
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i have always been wondering about this and couldn't find my answer anywhere.
My main profession is Marketing since my bachelor degree and full time are related to Marketing. now i am thinking of getting a Master, do you think it is a good idea of getting a Master of Marketing or go for some programming?
Any ideas?
Peter
My main profession is Marketing since my bachelor degree and full time are related to Marketing. now i am thinking of getting a Master, do you think it is a good idea of getting a Master of Marketing or go for some programming?
Any ideas?
Peter
Like many others have said here, I think you can be a programmer if you find programming interesting.
I would like to add that it's possible to make yourself interested in programming by working on something related to an interest you already have. If you can find a practical application it's going to make the work more tolerable when things get tough. That will increase your chances of sticking with programming in both the long and short term. It doesn't always work, but I've seen it work often enough that it deserves to be mentioned.
I would like to add that it's possible to make yourself interested in programming by working on something related to an interest you already have. If you can find a practical application it's going to make the work more tolerable when things get tough. That will increase your chances of sticking with programming in both the long and short term. It doesn't always work, but I've seen it work often enough that it deserves to be mentioned.
Wilson Grant Fisk
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Anybody can learn to program but not everybody can become good or better.
There are many bad programmers out there.
There are many bad programmers out there.
srb888
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Peter,
What would you do in that case?
Anyway, go for the marketing expertise. I would say that even if you are a great programmer but have very limited marketing skills, you won't go too far in life. Get what I am hinting at?
Once you complete masters in marketing, or rather: once you master marketing, then you can get yourself into programming if you are so possessed with the idea! Yoiu'd then go too far in life, definitely too.
HTH