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Best web 2.0 property creator tools?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by RightInTwo, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Hi Guys,
    In your opinion, what is the best tool for automating and creating large amounts of web 2.0 properties? Suggestions are appreciated!
     
  2. Neo240

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    Looking for same responses too. Also something other than zenno or Ubot would be better.
     
  3. iknowjack

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    licensed senukex for 137 (not sure if its 137 or a few bucks more or less) per month
     
  4. jass11

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    BHW user ningning is making a form filler for creating accounts/posting on Web2.0's

    So its still a semi automatic way and a new option unlike Senuke/UD/Blogbot
     
  5. cool.dude123

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    clyde will be coming out with a web 2.0 poster in a few months
     
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  6. haylander

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    there is no sophisticated tool for creating web2 pages right now, i use a mix of senuke+magic submitter+sick submitter
     
  7. cool.dude123

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    so I guess you haven't heard of most of the main seo tools, like umm, senuke, ultimate demon, zenno poster, ubot, etc...
     
  8. ADHD-Dude

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    Zennoposter is better than ubot, but if you are planing to create profiles on hundreds of site you will go crazy.
    You will need to create profiles for every site
     
  9. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Thanks for the input guys. Seems like most people are using a combination of multiple tools. Surprised this isn't already available as an all-in-one?
     
  10. niggy

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    The closest things to out of the box web 2.0 creators are zenno and senuke, both of which suck ass. Your best bet is to either write your own bots or to have someone write them for you.

    If you have to choose one, I would go with Zenno because you have a lot more freedom to do what you need to do. It's basically a freeform automation tool that does what script writers do for you. You basically record your clicks in a browser, give the bot some instructions, and then let it ride. There's a lot of problems though. It's really clunky and buggy and it only runs on XP SP3. You also have to record a template for each site, and debugging is totally fucking frustrating.

    SEnuke can handle most of what you'll need to do with web 2.0s, but it's quite expensive.

    A lot of people are working on automation tools according to this thread, including myself. Hopefully soon the community will have a decent tool to use =P
     
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    Sick Submitter. Buy the right packets and it does everything.
     
  12. zatun07

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    nice thread----------
     
  13. Scritty

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    Making a first tier out of JUST WEB2 sites is so "2009". Not a good idea at all. You are creating your own easily identifiable "look at me - I'm a self promoter" footprint - but everyone does it
    Nuke and Ultimate Demon are both excellently supported applications that doa whole lot more than just create WEB2 sites and are constrantly getting updates, fixes and new features.

    Zenno and Ubot are best used to do stuff that cheap professionally maintained tools don't already do.

    The idea of using them to make your own Nuke clone or whatever (which does a feck of a lot more than just post to WEB2 ) seems like a collosal waste of time.
    Like writing your own newspaper to read every night rather than spending a dollar and reading a professionally produced one.

    Don't make the mistake of thinking that once you have written the scripts "that's it". It isn't.

    Zenno 4 is really pretty buggy. 3 is ok and less buggy if you know the work arounds, there is a learning curve both to learn to script and to work around the bugs, then the scripts you make will need to be maintained as the sites changed.

    Spending the equivalenent of a day or two a month fixing scripts when you can buy a tool that is maintained for a one off fee or well under $50 a month..well it depends whether you think your time is worth more than $2 an hour. If the answer to that really is "no" then I wouldn't waste your money on any tool at all - i'd do it all manually.

    Zenno and Ubot can do so much more than copy what inexpensive professionally produced and maintained tools already do really well. But if that's what you want to spend your time doing...who am I to argue. :)

    Scritty
     
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  14. TheBlueWizard

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    ^ Good points as always.

    Self promoted Web 2.0s can be spotted miles always. However due to their nature and the purpose they meant to be served, don't see Google finding anyway to penalize these properties/platforms unless they really overreach and pull off a radical move to deindex/devalue these sites... of which I believe would produce a pretty nasty whiplash to all of SEO and the internet in general.

    Always good to mix it up anyways.
     
  15. Seoworking

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    in my experience i did not find any good web 2.0 poster till now.You have to adjust with present ones like senuke x and magic submitter.They dont have good success rate.
     
  16. Marcink99

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    I am looking for an answear for the past couple days. So far its magic submitter........ or lwb
     
  17. Scritty

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    The issues with getting stuff published is the number of hurdles coupled with the outright laziness of many spammers.
    Often it has nothing to do with the tool that a post or account gets rejected.


    • Title text wrong
    • Category wrong
    • No tags or inappropriate tags
    • Author profile mis-match (Phone code and Zip/Post code or similar do not match)
    • Too many words
    • Too few words
    • Profanity in the text
    • Posting to quickly (suspected as bot)
    • Banned proxy or IP
    • Use of free email account (many sites now do not allow sign up free email accounts like Yahoo and Gmail)
    • Too many posts in one day
    • Content fails auto plagirism check
    • Account set up requires human moderation (up to 6 week delay before getting account)
    • All content requires human moderation (requires up to 6 week delay before publshing)
    • Illegal characters in text ( spintax stuff or similar)
    • Badly formatted content (no paragraphs, control characters left in, HTML tags for bold, italics on sites that do not allow it. Some dont)
    • Links in banned areas (user profile, first paragraph,other)
    • Too many outbound links
    • Attempt to force d0follow
    • Subject matter considered as SPAM (some sites now refuse new content /accounts/blogs on stuff like weight loss, Warcraft, money lending, dog training etc)
    • Captcha service failed to solve correctly
    • Target site is temporarily 404 (happens more often than you think)

    There are more. I've BOLDED those that occur the most frequently when people try to post to my hosted WEB2.0 or article sites.

    I run a plagirism checker that alone throws 60% of what I receive straight out the window automatically. I never even see it.
    You also can't make accounts on my sites with free email adresses without contacting me first (only CPanel are accepted).
    If no category is selected, again it's thrown out, if a category is selected but it the spam checker thinks it's a con (say "Golf " is the category, but post is all about saving, auto, weight loss or whatever) it's held for human moderation.


    As for the list of criteria above? No site I know of has all the above, but many WEB2, article WIKI bookmark and other DO IMPLEMENT A SUBSET OF THE ABOVE.

    So the tool can work perfectly, but if your content doesn't meet the criteria, if you haven't set it up right, if your proxies are burnt out or your captcha service bad, if you post too much, or too little or too quickly or from the wrong type of email addy or........ then it will fail.

    I could run two 1st tier comapign types using Ultimate Demon with WEB2.0 alone.

    Big and low powered
    80-100 spoke WEB2.0's with many low PR

    Smaller and more powerful

    20+ with d0follow and an average PR of 3 or 4 (some 7,8 or 9)

    It'ss pretty easy with Ultimate Demon and a good list.

    Of course I follow my own advice and my first tier linking structures (the big ones).

    Once I abandon the dated Idea of only using WEB2 sites for a first tier the power of this really opens up. I might create an inner ring with 80-100 sites and include d0follow WIKI, Video Press release, hi PR d0follow article as well as WEB2.0. So if you use more than just WEB2 sites then a 80+ spoke inner ring with 90% d0follow and decent PR is pretty simple to set up

    Anything high PR, high traffic, static URL for tiered linking and d0follow works great. All except the press relese sites allow multiple submissions once the initial account is set up as well. Nice.
    But get cheap with your content or preparation and expect crap results.

    Scritty
     
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  18. dbyrn

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    Ultimate Demon and sick submitter could help you. You can find/buy templates for sick that suit your needs.
    You have to decide if you have time to master Zenno or Ubot. Time is money.

    Take care,
    D.
     
  19. moonlighsunligh

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    on the other hand oldest sites which are infused in Sentinel

    Actually i thik there is no such thing as web 2.0 sites. There are some web 2.0 sites which for example uses senuke, and there are ones that are not included in in the senuke. For the first kind of sites you shouldn't make zenno templates, among other reasons, because they change very frequently and they get spammed heavily.

    On the other hand, web 2.0 sites, which aren't included in the Senuke, are pretty much like all other sites on the web. I think the majority of web 2.0 sites are not included in Senuke.
     
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  20. jr_sci

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    I would go the manual way. Spend a few extra bucks but it's worth it.

    This doesn't mean the dead of softwares. My vote goes to Senuke and Ultimate Demon. Imm pretty sure, Clyde will come up with a mind blowing software.