Best tier 2 links for web 2.0s?

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Anyone have any idea what the best links for tier 2s on web 2.0s are? I've had negative experience using SB, some sites like squidoo will pick up on this and deindex the hub. I was narrowing it down between bookmarking or wikis? Any suggestions.
 
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wpbacklinks said:
Those two are good to go... at least i did it to all my 1st tiers.
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My structures go:
200 different web 2.0 domains (5 different accounts per domain) for tier 1
25 different web 2.0 domains (50 different accounts per domain) for tier 2 in a wheel with each other as well
5000 or so spun blog network posts for tier 3 + a few thousand wikis for tier 3
2-3 million SB comments for tier 4 (only pointing to wikis and some point to tier 2 as well, but only a small amount)

The sad part is, the above structure may not be enough to rank medium competition terms #1-2 anymore. I'm not having a tremendous amount of success with ONLY the above (have to go over with extremely, extremely valuable links to push it the rest of the way).

Google is 100% random post penguin... and makes no sense.
 
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Expertpeon said:
My structures go:
200 different web 2.0 domains (5 different accounts per domain) for tier 1
25 different web 2.0 domains (50 different accounts per domain) for tier 2 in a wheel with each other as well
5000 or so spun blog network posts for tier 3 + a few thousand wikis for tier 3
2-3 million SB comments for tier 4 (only pointing to wikis and some point to tier 2 as well, but only a small amount)

The sad part is, the above structure may not be enough to rank medium competition terms #1-2 anymore. I'm not having a tremendous amount of success with ONLY the above (have to go over with extremely, extremely valuable links to push it the rest of the way).

Google is 100% random post penguin... and makes no sense.
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Tier 4? Jesus, who goes that deep...
 
Expertpeon said:
People who want to make money I suspect.
I have two pyramids going out to tier 4s, because I also pligg all of tier 2 and then run SB into the pligg links.
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So you are using some tools , like senuke , right ?
 
ferma231 said:
So you are using some tools , like senuke , right ?
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Who the hell would use SEnuke, magic submitter or UD for that matter (magic submitter being the best out of those choices)? I have used them all, and they're terrible.
I insist on depositing video links (in spintax) and images in every single web 2.0 post.

All of this is done with custom scripts minus the wikis and SB.

If you think SEnuke, magic submitter or UD can do a 20,000 post randomized link wheel for a 2nd tier, you're sorely mistaken.
 
Expertpeon said:
My structures go:
200 different web 2.0 domains (5 different accounts per domain) for tier 1
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What has happened with your old links scheme?
You have said (few months ago) it is the most efficient to have 40 accounts per web 2.0 site. So that would be around 8 000 Tier1 account/links providing you have 200 web 2.0 sites.
 
moonlighsunligh said:
What has happened with your old links scheme?
You have said (few months ago) it is the most efficient to have 40 accounts per web 2.0 site. So that would be around 8 000 Tier1 account/links providing you have 200 web 2.0 sites.
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Penguin happened... obviously
 
Expertpeon said:
My structures go:
200 different web 2.0 domains (5 different accounts per domain) for tier 1
25 different web 2.0 domains (50 different accounts per domain) for tier 2 in a wheel with each other as well
5000 or so spun blog network posts for tier 3 + a few thousand wikis for tier 3
2-3 million SB comments for tier 4 (only pointing to wikis and some point to tier 2 as well, but only a small amount)

The sad part is, the above structure may not be enough to rank medium competition terms #1-2 anymore. I'm not having a tremendous amount of success with ONLY the above (have to go over with extremely, extremely valuable links to push it the rest of the way).

Google is 100% random post penguin... and makes no sense.
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how many articles per your tier 1&2 web2.0 property?
 
I use Doc sharing for my tier 2, another set of web 2.0's and microblogging. :)
 
ExpertPeon, have your rankings dropped entirely or are you just seeing a slight decrease? Do you think their new algorithm depends on a more casual link building strategy + social media attention or a combination of other things?
 
For tier 2 I use the web 2.0 sites. of course with a lot of accounts. and I always use spun articles for that.
I always get good output.
 
Expertpeon said:
Penguin happened... obviously
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Actually i think the 40 account techniques you have used after the Penguin.

Is it bad for rankings or it doesn't help ranking to make more than 5 accounts from the same web 2.0 site?

Also if you cannot make more than 1000 web 2.0s per site, then what other targets do you use for tier1?

I though it is pretty sure thing google was gonna reduce web 2.0 passing link juice power. Better quality links comes from real peoples sites (these are sites that have link from other real people sites), not just sites that publish user generated content such as web 2.0.


But i hope web 2.0 gonna work at least a bit for following several years.
 
moonlighsunligh said:
Also if you cannot make more than 1000 web 2.0s per site, then what other targets do you use for tier1?

I though it is pretty sure thing google was gonna reduce web 2.0 passing link juice power. Better quality links comes from real peoples sites (these are sites that have link from other real people sites), not just sites that publish user generated content such as web 2.0.


But i hope web 2.0 gonna work at least a bit for following several years.
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I may do several more rounds, but it depends on the competition. I try to keep total links to 10 or less from web 2.0s and such.
What exactly do you imagine "real peoples sites" are? Twitter?
Neither twitter nor facebook help rankings (tested extensively with retweets and shares via bots I built)

Microblogs are rarely d0follow (or not redirected), bookmarking sites like stumbleupon are always redirected... so what else is there exactly?
I have tons of freehosts automated (no out of the box tool can do that), Jcow sites are nofollow by default, most blog comments are nofollow (if they aren't they usually require special bots as well, or will be spammed to death and useless).

Yeah, analyze where you can generate d0follow "real peoples" links and get back to me.
 
Quality "real peoples" links can only come from fellow bloggers who will like my content and link to me.. the sad part is .. it will take years.. :|

Expertpeon... What do you do, after you have used up all the public web 2.0s, bookmarking, wikis etc...

Hitting with the same set of domains again and again, doesn't sound like a good idea..:(
 
_Chip_ said:
Quality "real peoples" links can only come from fellow bloggers who will like my content and link to me.. the sad part is .. it will take years.. :|

Expertpeon... What do you do, after you have used up all the public web 2.0s, bookmarking, wikis etc...

Hitting with the same set of domains again and again, doesn't sound like a good idea..:(
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I don't put wikis directly to my site, unless I'm trying to rank in other engines.
99% of bookmark sites are both nofollow and useless (I don't generally recommend pligging sites directly, though I guess it works for some people, you can just use the high PR ones I guess?)

I submit a lot of guestposts (free ones) and use blog networks that are all unique content and individual owned (not like BMR where they were owned by the site's owner only).

If you're going after extremely difficult niches like "wow gold" you're going to need deep pockets, and a lot of skills I currently do not possess.
 
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