Best Instagram Automation tool in 2019

rootjazz said:
You think you custom bot won't have bugs? Someone new to the domain will make glaring bugs that will make your bots stand out like sore thumbs, you don't want to be unique, you want to blend into the crowd.
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It's not about bugs - it's about 1000s of people using the same bot!
And, by the way, you could avoid the majority of the bugs just having a no-gui script,but command line scripts don't sell like user friendly guis.

Surely a public bot will be safer and easier for the new user, but you'll agree with me in saying that thousands of people using the same bot makes the bot easier to be detected - hence less secure.Paradoxically, the best bots get flagged first because the best bots have the most users between all bots, but more users means more interactions and hence more datas for instagram.
Instagram will end up knowing how all these bots behave.I think we saw this happening with every major bot in the last years

I don't know how all instagram bots work (that would be impossible) but I surely do know that we have two main categories of bots:
1 - browser based bots (no api) (I'm not sure this kind of bots still exists)
2 - app based bots (private api)

As I said, the browser-based bots shouldn't exist anymore.
Basically you're scripting on your own browser and Instagram should notice that you're not using their app to upload photoes.That's pretty suspicious, even if you set a mobile user agent.
Why should you use your browser when you can simply download their official app?

Now let's talk about app based bots.I think (or, at least, I hope) that all major bots are app-based.
This means they have to reverse engineer the whole app looking for a constant called IG_SIG_KEY in order to make their private api work.
It may look like an easy task, but it surely isn't.
It looks so difficult to me that I don't know if each public bot has decoded its own IG_SIG_KEY

The IG_SIG_KEY basically identifies your app version.
Now, let's say you're botting using the IG_SIG_KEY of Instagram 89.0.0.21.101 version; notice that instagram last version is 110.0.0.16.119
Let's say your PUBLIC bot still works on that old version: Instagram will see thousands of accounts having a suspicious behaviour on your quite dated app.
Now, if your public bot lets you choose more than 1 device you should be still safe.
as example: 5000-7000 accounts using the same old ig_sig_key, the same device and having a suspicious behaviour?too easy for instagram,each action they take enhances ig's algorithm.
5000-7000 accounts using the same old ig_sig_key with a suspicious behaviour BUT on multiple devices?More difficult than before, but I think that's still an easy task for IG.

What's my point then?Instagram Is DeAd?No, I don't think so.
I think that using your own private bot you should be pretty safe.
Also if you run hundreds of accounts on your private bot, that would be an order of size smaller than with the public bot.
I think that would be a drop in the ocean, almost impossible to be flagged as bot.

You could argue that 5000 accounts too is a drop in the ocean compared to instagram total users; it surely is, but not when it comes to botting.Otherwise we won't have experienced the last ban hammer.
I don't know how big is the business of public bots but I guess that an average bot has at least 5000 accounts running with it..maybe someone could help with numbers.

That's my honest thought about botting on IG.
I'm not a developer, just a lurker.
Take everything I write with a grain of salt (especially when things get technical) and please correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT : I've just read (in your signature) that you're the developer behind Instadub.
I shouldn't have replied you..you're here only to advertise your bot, not to share real knowledge.
But I would be pleased if you proved me wrong.
 
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Talebano said:
It's not about bugs - it's about 1000s of people using the same bot!
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It certainly is about bugs.
Having 1000 people use a bot, if well developed and matches requests made, doesn't matter if you have 1 or 1000000 users.

And, by the way, you could avoid the majority of the bugs just having a no-gui script,but command line scripts don't sell like user friendly guis.
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Why? Gui just fires functions. A no-GUI command line script will fire functions. No difference. If you are saying users will make less mistakes with a commandline input, than a GUI, then you are wrong I can assure you of that

Surely a public bot will be safer and easier for the new user, but you'll agree with me in saying that thousands of people using the same bot makes the bot easier to be detected - hence less secure.
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No, you cannot make that assumption as a fact. All depends how implemented. And importantly how it changes to updates.
If your bot is working perfectly replicating the requests, then the site changes and requires a new request with ID to be made, private / public bots will NOT be making this and could be detected. Which program is going to discover this and update quicker so is back to make correct requeests? The public bot every time

Paradoxically, the best bots get flagged first because the best bots have the most users between all bots, but more users means more interactions and hence more datas for instagram.
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Again, no. You cannot make that assumption as fact. Getting flagged could be anything from bad requests to usage (more so if usage is fixed and lack of randomisation is allowed sure), but it is not a given.

Instagram will end up knowing how all these bots behave.I think we saw this happening with every major bot in the last years
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If you think IG are picking a specific program and trying to detect that, you are not giving them enough credit, one pick a bot? A new one would come along. They are looking at many factors, usage, metrics, patterns against typical usage patterns, requests and more. A private bot is no more protected here than a public bot.

I don't know how all instagram bots work
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I do

(that would be impossible)
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not really

but I surely do know that we have two main categories of bots:
1 - browser based bots (no api) (I'm not sure this kind of bots still exists)
2 - app based bots (private api)

As I said, the browser-based bots shouldn't exist anymore.
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why not? Limited functionality in the browser, but if that is all you want, is a perfectly valid automation method

Basically you're scripting on your own browser and Instagram should notice that you're not using their app to upload photoes.That's pretty suspicious, even if you set a mobile user agent.
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Setting a mobile agent for a browser isn't going to trick any one and you do not want to be scripting your own browser, you want to be using the most popular browser to blend in with the crowd



Now let's talk about app based bots.I think (or, at least, I hope) that all major bots are app-based.
This means they have to reverse engineer the whole app looking for a constant called IG_SIG_KEY in order to make their private api work.
It may look like an easy task, but it surely isn't.
It looks so difficult to me that I don't know if each public bot has decoded its own IG_SIG_KEY
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sort of right, the key can be pulled from memory analysis and isn't that difficult, but it is related to the APK.

more difficult the authentication hash that must be made with the request which uses the key and the properties of the post details be posted. But once you have it, it is used throughout the whole app

The IG_SIG_KEY basically identifies your app version.
Now, let's say you're botting using the IG_SIG_KEY of Instagram 89.0.0.21.101 version; notice that instagram last version is 110.0.0.16.119
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Not all users always update to the latest APK on their phones, must do, but not all
Let's say your PUBLIC bot still works on that old version: Instagram will see thousands of accounts having a suspicious behaviour on your quite dated app.
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Why are you assuming the public bot uses the old key and a private one will have the new key? It is most likely to be the other way rong

Now, if your public bot lets you choose more than 1 device you should be still safe.
as example: 5000-7000 accounts using the same old ig_sig_key, the same device and having a suspicious behaviour?too easy for instagram,each action they take enhances ig's algorithm.
5000-7000 accounts using the same old ig_sig_key with a suspicious behaviour BUT on multiple devices?More difficult than before, but I think that's still an easy task for IG.
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Again you hide in plain site, the most popular mobile devices, used by millions around the world. botting isn't about being unique, it is about blending in and avoid being unique and keeping to the latest keys. But again, you seem to imply: public bots old keys, private bots latest key.

What's my point then?Instagram Is DeAd?No, I don't think so.
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Your point was private bots are better than public bots :)

I think that using your own private bot you should be pretty safe.
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Still haven't explained why

Also if you run hundreds of accounts on your private bot, that would be an order of size smaller than with the public bot.
I think that would be a drop in the ocean, almost impossible to be flagged as bot.
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No, it is because you are not understanding what IG is doing. Your private bot does not protect you at all.

That's my honest thought about botting on IG.
I'm not a developer, just a lurker.
Take everything I write with a grain of salt (especially when things get technical) and please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Exactly, respectfully unless you have run private / public bots and know the issues and complications of developing and maintaining bots and what is done to ID then, you don't have a full picture. End of the day, no bot is perfect, but chances are you get more issues with a private bot due to the less testing it has. That is just a fact. The developer handles the situations they came across, but will not come across them all. The onus is on getting the program appearing to work and get your lump sum payment. With a public bot, continually working is essential to future sales and thus you end up with a better product.

People are far too quick to parrot the view "hire a freelancer and get a private bot" without specifying exactly what it is involves, the potential benefits (if any) the much much higher initial cost and maintenance contracts and the problems of going that route.

There are some genuine reasons why a private bot might be better for you, if you have very specific usage needs. Most users are not running 10k accounts, if you want to control 10k accounts, no public bot is designed with you in mind as 95%+ of users are botting 1-100 accounts, which requires a much different app to use. Or perhaps you want specific functionality that is complex and unique to you which no public bot can do or is prepared to add - then you have no choice.

But for standard functionality: follow / like / DM a public bot is going to see you better each and every time

EDIT : I've just read (in your signature) that you're the developer behind Instadub.
I shouldn't have replied you..you're here only to advertise your bot, not to share real knowledge.
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lol. I've been on BHW since 2006/2007 and with this account since 2012. With the BHW strict self promotion rules out side of BST threads, if I was only here to advertise my account would have been banned years ago
 
IG Professor said:
Alright, name one tool that can beat Jarvee?
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There's none at the moment, but suggesting a newbie something that doesn't work is not cool. I'm happy to become their customer again, but only after the release of the long-promised update.
 
FUTUR TIM said:
There's none at the moment, but suggesting a newbie something that doesn't work is not cool. I'm happy to become their customer again, but only after the release of the long-promised update.
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  • ''There's none at the moment'' - Thanks.
  • ''suggesting a newbie something that doesn't work is not cool'' - Not work for you does not mean not work for others.
 
IG Professor said:
  • ''There's none at the moment'' - Thanks.
  • ''suggesting a newbie something that doesn't work is not cool'' - Not work for you does not mean not work for others.
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Sorry, it doesn't work for "others" as well. When loads of people from different forums are trying to find a way to grow on Instagram with the current circumstances, when the biggest Instagram experts choose to change their growth methods, it certainly means that the tool doesn't work for "others" as well.
 
Are you in the bot business or the making money business?

You cannot beat Instagram. Or Facebook. Or anyone that does not want you.

They are like girlfriends. Once they reject you, you cannot come back.

Get a cheap IPhone on eBay. Accounts made by IPhone have a higher trust score.

Get a cheap plan

Create your 5 accounts and manage them

Get another phone, etc

Instead of concentraing on numbers of accounts, find ways to sell to the ones you have

Sincerely,

TheEye
 
FUTUR TIM said:
Sorry, it doesn't work for "others" as well. When loads of people from different forums are trying to find a way to grow on Instagram with the current circumstances, when the biggest Instagram experts choose to change their growth methods, it certainly means that the tool doesn't work for "others" as well.
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Well you can be an insta expert today and if you don't test daily in 3 months you can be irrelevant, ton of new info weekly, and some purely give up on that method and choose a different one. There still are people that grow with f/u story views m/s but most of them don't talk about the fact that it works or how because they're crawling in sending their paypal to the mass of floating clients
 
Newsflash : Instagram bot developer thinks we should put our faith in instagram bot developers.

The instagram game has changed. Right now is a bad time to hire or buy anything. Until the update, I have had a custom tool that has had much better results than anything on the market that I've found. Time will show whether the new changes will be so easy to adapt to.
 
radu1296 said:
Well you can be an insta expert today and if you don't test daily in 3 months you can be irrelevant, ton of new info weekly, and some purely give up on that method and choose a different one. There still are people that grow with f/u story views m/s but most of them don't talk about the fact that it works or how because they're crawling in sending their paypal to the mass of floating clients
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Did you just assume that I'm not checking up on Instagram daily? Do you know any working child accounts service that uses Jarvee right now?
 
FUTUR TIM said:
Sorry, it doesn't work for "others" as well. When loads of people from different forums are trying to find a way to grow on Instagram with the current circumstances, when the biggest Instagram experts choose to change their growth methods, it certainly means that the tool doesn't work for "others" as well.
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Agreed. I'm tired of posters on here saying (x automation software) works with no proof and accusing others of doing thousands of actions and using data centre proxies. When many "others" report using high quality proxies and minimal warm up actions on non-flagged accounts and still experiencing blocks on a variety of platforms and forums.
 
Best software is Jarvee hands down, and it seems like most automation software is getting fazed (phased?) out of business. But with recent IG updates it might be a good idea to stick to more ever-green strategies that won't go out of style any time soon.
 
FUTUR TIM said:
Did you just assume that I'm not checking up on Instagram daily? Do you know any working child accounts service that uses Jarvee right now?
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Was not talking about you specifically, was talking about a random insta expert that doesn't do his homework. Yes i do
 
Thornyrosed said:
Agreed. I'm tired of posters on here saying (x automation software) works with no proof and accusing others of doing thousands of actions and using data centre proxies. When many "others" report using high quality proxies and minimal warm up actions on non-flagged accounts and still experiencing blocks on a variety of platforms and forums.
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People didn't pay to try a 4g proxy rotation ip, people only got static 4G proxy changing ip 2, 3 times a day.

A 4g proxy for ip rotation every 5 minutes will have better results than a static 4g proxy.

And I am no longer being blocked for 3 or 7 days, since using the 4g proxy ip rotation, instead I was only blocked 1 feature because the operation was too fast.
 
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Seems like FollowLiker has gone down the drain a bit. I managed to get banned on several PVA Accounts, made by me on several mobile phones and using the respective sim card as proxy. So... IDK maybe it is really a bad time to farm IG accounts.
 
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