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Best for email deliverability?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Godziwa, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Godziwa

    Godziwa Regular Member

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    Hey guys,
    I used to have an aweber account that I spammed. Got banned many times and I kept opening new accounts.

    But now I want to build a legit email list and that means I'll have to keep hiding from aweber. I don't want this.

    Got any alternatives?

    Tried getresponse, they fucking suck. No inbox.
    Mail chimp doesn't allow make money online stuff.

    Anyone tried their own physical private server with smtp mailing? How's the inbox rate?
     
  2. blackcodez

    blackcodez Newbie

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    Yes, but you have to be smart. you have to scrub your emails, verify your emails, and then when you are ready to send you have to ease into it. You cannot send 50k emails at once. You have to ramp up your IP address by sending low quantities at first and then gradually larger in order to gain reputation. Getreponse isn't inboxing because of Getresponse. It's more likely that you haven't scrubbed your emails, are sending massive emails from known spam domain, or the actual content is using spam related test or phrases.

    Don't blame the provider. Blame the list you are using and the content you are sending.
     
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  3. loedown

    loedown Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I use mailchimp, but I'm not sure if this will work in your current situation.
     
  4. HoNeYBiRD

    HoNeYBiRD Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    There are a lot of bulk mailing services out there, most have free trial, try some and see, if you're satisfied with the results or no. I guess you can start with SendGrid, when i tried, the inboxing rate was pretty damn good with all the major free ESPs.
     
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  5. Godziwa

    Godziwa Regular Member

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    Yes on G.R, I only had 77 email addresses anyway. That's a tiny volume and a new domain name that I didn't spam. Could my I.p be blacklisted?
     
  6. HoNeYBiRD

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    Yes, it could be, most likely it is. That's one good reason why you should rather use a bulk mailing service with whitelisted ips than your own setup.
     
  7. Godziwa

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    Thanks for your replies guys. Uber helpful.

    But doesn't G.R use their own I.P? And do you recommend any tools to check the spam levels of my emails?
     
  8. HoNeYBiRD

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    Most if not all of these bulk mail services have spam checker built-in, so you can check your emails before sending them.

    Other than that there are free online checkers, if you do a Google search, you'll find several or you can do this too: https://www.port25.com/support/authentication-center/email-verification/
     
  9. antidajjal

    antidajjal Newbie

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    aweber keep banning me ...how about self hosted autoresponder ?
     
  10. Godziwa

    Godziwa Regular Member

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    Aweber bans me too all the time. I normally just open a new one on a VPS and re upload the list.

    No self hosted autoresponder yet. Not until I have a huge list.
     
  11. MafiaBlack

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    Have you found the solution Godziwa?
     
  12. Godziwa

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    I just re opened an account with aweber and re imported my list.