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Basic SEO question

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Wolfpack, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    I've read a lot about SEO lately, and I'm about to open my first website hopefully after I discover a good niche. Using the thread blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/266300-method-step-step-keyword-research-newbies.html, I've found that a good search term will have about 30K in-quote (i.e. "keywords") results on Google, but I have no idea how many global monthly searches I should be looking for for keywords/keyword phrases. I would appreciate anybody's knowledge on this. Thank you!
     
  2. Reefer

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    First site? Low competition keyword? Just do it.

    It isn't a matter of how many searches a terms gets per month but rather the ROI per visitor (300 "buy beach house" visitors > 15000 "free funny pictures" visitors)
     
  3. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    Haha, never said it was low-competition ;) in fact, it's classed as high competition by google. Is there a certain amount of global monthly searches which is a good base to go off of though? I can't imagine this keyword, with < 10 monthly searches would do
     
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    30k phrase match results is low competition.

    Assuming $.10 income per visitor:
    Main keyword: 5k+ exact local searches
    2nd tier keywords (make subpages targetting them): 2k+ exact local searches
     
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    marcgenesis Junior Member

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    If you are referring to the "Competition" column in google's keyword tool, it is the adword competition, meaning that if the competition is high, there is more advertisers for it (meaning more money potential via adsense) BUT it also generally means more competitors for you website... but it is not always the case.
     
  6. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    Thank you both, I've been basing it off of the adwords tool, I've always wondered if that was a good or bad indicator and it looks like it's a bad one! Should I simply ignore the amount of global monthly searches for the keyphrase on Google's adwords tool and base it off of the phrase search results then? Thanks again, sorry for such simple questions
     
  7. tttgroup

    tttgroup Newbie

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    Hi Guys I need some help with the Japanese language keywords and the Japanese website promotion.
    The 7 keywords are as follows
    占い   占い師   魔術   白魔術   復縁   有名占い師       当たる占い

    I need to be no1 in Google Japan and Yahoo japan ranking tell me how and what can be done.
    Regards
    W
     
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    Ok, I think you are missing the point they were making. Just because adwords says it high competition, does not mean there is high "SEO" competition. This just means that a lot of advertisers are bidding on that keyword.

    When you put your keyword in quotes, the number of sites returned by G is not really that important. It gives a good initial idea, but you really need to dig deeper to find out the level of competition. i.e. number of backlinks, page rank, anchor text used, etc..

    The global monthly searches and how many results are returned with your keyword in quotes are not the same thing. GMS is how many people around the globe type that phrase into G. Make sure you tick the "exact match" box in adwords tool to see how many people type the exact phrase in.

    Remember, the adwords tool was created for advertisers, not SEO guys, so you really need to pay attention to the data.
     
  9. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Junior Member

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    So high competition could be a good indicator of a highly valued keyword? If advertisers are willing to compete heavily for the keyword, it would be a sign of a keyword with a strong amount of money behind it? And following the thread I originally quoted (the newbie guide to keyword research) to where you've pointed out about backlinks, etc. has made me realise I'm jumping the gun a bit, I should research the keyword and the competition fully before making a full judgement about how good/bad a keyword is. Thank you, this is a bit of a push in the right direction - hopefully I'll get there soon.

    Again I'm sorry this is such simple stuff, I'm just trying to minimise the mistakes I'm making before I put in the money, there would be nothing worse in business, and nothing much more offputting, than losing an investment and gaining next-to-none experience, so I'm really grateful to all these little tidbits you offer, they will add up to make a significant difference
     
  10. Wolfpack

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    Can you speak/understand kanji fluently? Otherwise I wouldn't go for this.. I don't say that from any SEO experience at all, but from a viewpoint of somebody who learnt a fair amount of Japanese (I learnt pinyin however) that Japanese culture and language is very very different to English, in lots of ways. For example, they have a writing style to speak politely depending on how the characters and punctuation are formatted and implemented, and it wouldn't be good to have a website where you can't understand what is written. You may otherwise come across as poorly spoken and potentially in a fashion too polite or too informal for your keyword market.

    Otherwise, good luck!
     
  11. reinblend

    reinblend Newbie

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    You should have to go with low competition keywords. Google Adword tool may be helped you at many ways to find some good keyword niches. Afterall It is best keyword research tool.
     
  12. ventureman

    ventureman Registered Member

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    take action fast man! you will learn along the way, that what i did :)
     
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    If this is your first site, I wouldn't worry about losing your investment too much because you'll probably lose it anyway. All you need is a cheap domain and a virtual hosting account, which you should be able to use for your future sites as well.

    Just choose a niche that wouldn't be too hard to rank in. Ideally it would be something that does drive lots of traffic, doesn't pay very much (less competition) and is easy to create content for. This way, it's easy to figure out what you're doing right and wrong when your rankings bounce around in the top 10 instead of bouncing around down somewhere nowhere to be found.
     
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    tttgroup Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply yes i can read write and speak Japanese and if i can get any help in this mater that is great...