Basic SEO practices for newbies:

I still have 2 questions:

Does bold/italic have any effect at all?

Which is better for internal linking. Ive read both are better
the entire url like hxxp://mysiteblahblah.com/thepageiwant
OR
/thepageiwant only?
1. It will make it stand out to the reader but for keyword, seo use...doesn't have any effect. Looks nice and makes things pop, however, is a typographical cosmetic effect and doesn't have any effect on keywords.

2. Doesn't matter to the search engines, it is also a cosmetic effect and is simply for your own choice. They both work and both will list. However, I do recommend the full domain/page method, as it has shown to be a comfort for people to make sure they are still within the same site and not redirected through a portal. Be sure and stick with one or the other, as you don't want to confuse/scare someone with that slight difference can cause doubt/distrust with your site function, among other issues.

It is just as much about the people's response in visiting your site as it is about presentation of content, seo and good technique of website mastery.

Keep that in mind.

I agree on point #2. Choose one and stick with that one (full path is always best - recommended) for everything, internal links and backlinks to your site.
 
Gotcha!

Is it even possible to get "deeper" information about the page?

Specifically, is there a resource (a site, service, software) somewhere that will provide detailed information about a particular page on the Internet (i.e., how many backlinks it has, what keywords it gets traffic for, etc.)?


I would think that knowing these statistics about your competition would be extremely valuable. Amongst other things, they could be used to modify a page so that it attracts the traffic the competition's page was receiving - by focusing on the things that are sending traffic to the competition's page.

Also, what is a "free IPB on Ares"?
You can go to Yahoo Site Explorer to see the number of backlinks to any page or domain.

And the only thing I know that gives you good info on keywords/traffic is Keyword Spy... they have a free version.

My 2cents.
 
Thanks GreyWolf!

I tried to give you a +Rep for this thread but it appears that since I recently gave you a +Rep I will have to spread some of my +Reps out before I can give you one again. ;)
 
Whether google will detect my ip address when I build my backlinks? I mean if I build backlinks to my site with the same ip that I use to log to my site, whether google can detect this and don't count the backlinks?

They do detect and log it but it is for their own records and doesn't matter where it comes from as long as the link is relevant to the site content being linked to it and it is being linked to.

Specifically in the case where you are referencing and reffering site links for backlink rank, the only thing you would be at risk for is if they are infact spam, doorway/portal redirects or something of that nature. If they are legitimate link posts, it doesn't matter and has no need for concern to you.
 
You can go to Yahoo Site Explorer to see the number of backlinks to any page or domain.

And the only thing I know that gives you good info on keywords/traffic is Keyword Spy... they have a free version.

My 2cents.

No need to do that, as all search engine results, the blurp text about the site is exactly what is in the given description tag of that given page/site. Any and all search engines use description tag information as the description call when you do a keyword search for any given page/site.

To answer your question directly...google, yahoo, bing or any other search engine will specifically give you the content of any description tag by searching for it.

The easiest way of using this is to use google.com and type in ' link:www.domainnameyouwantgoes.here ' and it will give you every page listed within their public directory that has a description and link within the given site domain address.

Every piece of information about each page is its own respected description tag. You will find 9 times out of 10 that they are duplicated from the index page, as most people copy/paste all of their meta tags and edit/adjust accordingly for keywords, etc.
 
No need to do that, as all search engine results, the blurp text about the site is exactly what is in the given description tag of that given page/site. Any and all search engines use description tag information as the description call when you do a keyword search for any given page/site.

To answer your question directly...google, yahoo, bing or any other search engine will specifically give you the content of any description tag by searching for it.

The easiest way of using this is to use google.com and type in ' link: (change this because I can't post links yet) ' and it will give you every page listed within their public directory that has a description and link within the given site domain address.

Every piece of information about each page is its own respected description tag. You will find 9 times out of 10 that they are duplicated from the index page, as most people copy/paste all of their meta tags and edit/adjust accordingly for keywords, etc.

True, but it's been noted that using Yahoo instead of Google "link:" command, gives you more accurate info. Plus Yahoo finds backlinks faster.

That's just my opinion.
 
True, but it's been noted that using Yahoo instead of Google "link:" command, gives you more accurate info. Plus Yahoo finds backlinks faster.

That's just my opinion.

Sure, depending on what you are searching for, yahoo has a more cut and dry result list that is clearly better suited. I agree with that in this case, absolutely. Just commonly mentioned as google is, it has become more of a generic goto.

Test it with the major search engines and compare. That is what research and development analysis is all about.
 
Much thanks to GreyWolf, and everyone who took there time on this post!!
 
I've been recieving a few PMs lately along the lines of this one.

The answer is "not really". I'm not even close to being some kind of SEO guru, the questions I've been answering lately are all just pretty basic.

There are a lot of people better at SEO than me, so if you want a consultant you should try checking in the BST services threads. In fact I purchase services from the BST threads myself. If you do your due diligence before choosing a service provider, I've found that the sellers here on bhw are some of the best anywhere.

So, rather than keep answering individual PMs, I'll just make this thread and send them here from now on.

Basic SEO practices for newbies:

The thing to remember is that SEO isn't a magic bullet. It's important, but no one knows the exact algorithms the SEs use, and each one is different so all you can do is optimize the best you can. There happens to be a few things that you should just always do whenever you make a new website. Don't stress over every little thing, just make sure you are doing it, this should just become kind of automatic for you.

Make sure you fill in your meta tags with a good title, description, and the right keywords. I personally don't think the keywords meta-tag is nearly as important as everyone else on here does, but it gives me a way to organize my keywords list for me to reference. When you start having many different websites, it's good to include whatever notes to yourself you can. When you come back to work on an older site you might not remember eveything you were thinking before. The metatags help you remember your site info as much as it helps the SE figure it out. A good rule of thumb is that anything that won't hurt you for SEO and might help, you should use and use correctly. Definately use the title meta-tag, try to include keywords in the title. Definately use the description meta-tag, google will normally use this for the summary it displays in the listing. It isn't used for indexing so write it for humans, this is what gets people to click on your link when they see it in the SERP. Don't use the same metatags for every page on your site. Take the time to make them be specific to each page.

Create good content. Make sure you have some decent content. Content is what the internet was invented for. If you have unique and quality content, then all the seo and backlinking you're doing is just to get the ball rolling. Give them what they want, show them where it is, and they'll start coming. If it's good enough then it'll eventually start building on its own naturally because people like what they found. That's the idea anyway. So whenever possible use the best page design and the best content possible. Avoid duplicate content between different pages on your site, the SE will most likely penalize your site for that.

Remember, your content isn't just something to get google to like your site, it is the whole point of your site. The content and how you structure it is what will make visitors do what you want when they get there. If it's crap they'll just leave, and 99% of them won't leave by clicking on your adsense or affilliate link, they'll just close the window or use the back button. (yes, of course if your doing blackhat stuff you can make the browser go where you want, but that's for a different discussion.)

Include your keywords. Structure your content correctly, make a few title headers in the content that include keywords (use header tags h1, h2, etc.), try to have a keyword density around 2% in your content, and maybe 4% for the whole page including the metatags, alt tags, anchors, etc.

Be sure that your .htaccess is set up correctly. Decide on which way you want your url to be and stick with it. If you decide to use www then always use it like that in your links, don't use both. I usually set up a 301 for all www requests to redirect to non-www urls. If you don't set that up then every single page on your site can appear to google as having at least one duplicate. If that's the only thing wrong on your site it isn't going to kill you, but it's so easy to fix. If you don't know how to set up a redirect in your .htaccess file then just do a search, there are many other threads explaining it. Check google if you can't find it here. Also, .htaccess only apples if your on an Apache server, Windows servers do it a little differently, if that applies to you then just search google to find out how to do it. If your consitent in your linking, then the only time the redirect will come into play is if you get natural backlinks that you have no control over. You should also specify which you prefer, www or not-www in google tools if you use it. (If you don't then you really should, I recommend you set yourself up an account for webmaster tools and analytics.)

Make a robots.txt file and I like to include a favicon because without them the robots will trigger file not found errors on your server. Be sure to configure your robots.txt correctly. Make a custom 404 page. If your site has more than just a couple of pages then also create a sitemap.xml file. It's not a bad idea to just create a sitemap anyway no matter what, it lets you define the structure of your site to the crawlers. Just search google if you don't know how to do any of that, it's very basic and you can find exact instructions within a minute when you do a search.

Other than that there isn't a lot more you can do for on-site SEO. When people ask about SEO they're always thinking of on-site SEO, but thats the easy and quick part. Just do it and get on with it.

Everything else is off-site SEO and involves building backlinks and promotion.
This is where you need to focus your efforts. This is where the magic bullet is, if there really is one.

Social Bookmarks, Directory Submissions, Profile Links, and Blog Comments are really the easiest place to start getting backlinks. It's not a bad idea to purchase these links from a service. They are easy to make, but to do it right they really need to be posted from many different accounts and ip adresses. A good idea when your starting is to do it yourself a little bit to see how it works, then purchase larger quantities from a service. You want to get a lot of links, but you don't want to over do it. Building to fast can look unnatural, just do some searches and read up on it a little more. How many and how fast is a judgement call you have to make. hold off on more complex linkbuilding until you have a little more experience. Linkwheels and other link structures can be very powerful, but can also hurt your site a lot if not done correctly.

Whenever possible include keyword anchors and title or alt tags on your backlinks. Don't always use the same anchors, vary it up a little, use 3 or 4 different keywords and even do a few with some non keyword anchors. You are trying to look as though a lot of different real people have taken a liking to your site, if it were natural then all links wouldn't be exactly the same, so you want to simulate that same type of randomness. Backlinking strategies are all about simulating the natural events that happen as a site grows in popularity. If you can do it successfully then the SE's will give you good position in the listings, and then hopefully what you are simulating can become reality. The point of all of it is to get traffic.

Change up your anchor text. The idea of backlinking is to simulate that masses of people are becoming interested in your site. It should have some amount of randomness to it in order to look natural. I've seen a few made up stats on what's best, but I think a good rule of thumb is maybe about 45% primary keywords, 35% secondary keywords, and about 15% random unrelated like Click Here, and then about 5% just the url. The exact percentage isn't dramatically important, it just needs to seem like the linking is natural.

Create relevant articles containing your keywords, include backlinks using keyword anchors, and submit to article directories. Article directories are mostly authority sites and your article becomes a relevant backlink to your site. Then create profiles and accounts on blogs, social networking sites, forums etc. Include a link to your website whenever you do that and each one of those become backlinks as well.

Thats the end of it. Well kinda.
Go back and watch your stats to see what keywords are getting the most traffic to your site, analyze the data a little bit and if you need to, remove or add keywords to your content and tags, and adjust the anchors your using in your backlinks.

Continue building links. Remember you're trying to artificially create the appearance to the SE that your site is popular. When that happens naturally, people are always adding new links to your site. Since you are trying to look natural you have to do the same thing. Linkbuilding never stops completely.

OK, there you go. That's that basics of SEO. Everything else is about fine tuning, and has to be looked at for each individual situation.

If you have any more questions, before you start PMing anyone just read through the threads in the White Hat SEO section, and do some searching on google. You can find some really good information from some much smarter people than me.

If there are any SEO gurus that want to expand on this or if you see any errors you think should be discussed, please add your input.

Hope this can help some of you. :beerchug:

Hi, I am also into SEO for the last 3 years and i must say very well put my friend. You have hit the right points here. I would just want to add a few things about off page here. Directory submissions (which anyways is related to the contents on the site) are a very effective way of getitng clicks and getting backlings. SO is article submissions, social bookmarking and classifieds submissions.
 
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