Awesome Panda Insight

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Never knew Panda was named after an engineer. Guess those BST sellers will have to change their image to an Indian engineer instead of a Panda bear now ;)
 
Interesting find, OP thanks.

Here's some light bedtime reading :D

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[URL]http://alumni.cs.ucsb.edu/~panda/published_papers/acmmm_06.pdf[/URL]
 
yep, pretty informative article and that SVM thing really makes sense..
 
MisterF said:
Interesting find, OP thanks.

Here's some light bedtime reading :D

Code: 
[URL]http://alumni.cs.ucsb.edu/~panda/published_papers/acmmm_06.pdf[/URL]
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The guys who can really wrap their heads around this stuff are supremely impressive.
 
Nice post by them, I knew about this last year winter time when attending a webinair.
 
Great stuff, helps to keeps things in perspective with so much garbage being published elsewhere that adds to confusion.
 
Scott Blanchard opened up a lot of eyes and that's the good news.

The bad news is that Google's Amit Singhal, much like Matt Cutts, is reveling in elitist narcissism concerning his engineering accomplishments much like Charlie Sheen was reveling in his acting accomplishments.

It's one thing to want to improve the SERPs but its another entirely different thing when you make yourself become the sole evaluator and your standard becomes the sole benchmark of which websites should be on the bad side of the SVM equation and which websites should be on the good side of the SVM equation.

For those wondering what Scott revealed, here is his brief synopsis:

There is definitely some highly complex calculas involved in all of this, however, we pretty much know the baseline "inputs" into the system are:

- site meta (includes the title, url, and meta description and possibly an overall page theme as the key indicators of page scope)
- bounce rate (how many clicks result in a click back to search on the same search phrase? user disatisfaction)
- ads on page
- semantic structure of the page (well formed?, validates?, heading tags?, bold and emphasis used on which keywords?)
- content relevancy (an index number, say 1-100, that reflects the overall analysis of the page's raw content, without tags, based on proprietary formulas that acertain the core theme or themes of the page's content)
- content diversity (an index number that represents the mixture of elements on the page including images and video assets)
- inbound links profile (an index number, say from 1-100, that reflects the quantity and quality of inbound links)
- social profile (an index number, say from 1-100, that reflects the quantity and quality of inbound social links, twitter tweets, facebook likes and google +1′s, etc)
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What gets me is, a high bounce rate is actually good in numerous cases but the new SVM filter doesn't see it that way.

OK, no problem, I'm going to start strategically placing some family friendly scantily clad babes on sites to see if that will decrease the bounce rate while maintaining my CTRs, LOL.
 
My thoughts exactly! Google has been playing god an awful lot lately and killing many great websites in their wake. They've decided on criteria "They" feel makes a good website and have closed the door on anything that doesn't fit into that category.

Crewchief007 said:
Scott Blanchard opened up a lot of eyes and that's the good news.

The bad news is that Google's Amit Singhal, much like Matt Cutts, is reveling in elitist narcissism concerning his engineering accomplishments much like Charlie Sheen was reveling in his acting accomplishments.

It's one thing to want to improve the SERPs but its another entirely different thing when you make yourself become the sole evaluator and your standard becomes the sole benchmark of which websites should be on the bad side of the SVM equation and which websites should be on the good side of the SVM equation.

For those wondering what Scott revealed, here is his brief synopsis:



What gets me is, a high bounce rate is actually good in numerous cases but the new SVM filter doesn't see it that way.

OK, no problem, I'm going to start strategically placing some family friendly scantily clad babes on sites to see if that will decrease the bounce rate while maintaining my CTRs, LOL.
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Good share indeed, I had someone send that over to me earlier today as well.

A lot of my theories about Penguin, could be about this technology. I'm gonna do a little more research and make a better post about it....
 
partymarty4870 said:
just remember this bit guys

"Singhal: There is absolutely no algorithm out there which, when published, would not be gamed."
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this is so true...google bot is an algorithm, all math problems have solutions, WE WILL OVERCOME!

then the dance starts all over...
 
FuryKyle said:
Never knew Panda was named after an engineer. Guess those BST sellers will have to change their image to an Indian engineer instead of a Panda bear now ;)
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LOL. Btw thanks OP for sharing the article, it's quite an interesting read.
 
dp40oz said:
Not sure if you guys have seen this. I thought this was a great article describing the workings of Panda.
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Great information then, now, and several months from now.

Especially "Would you be comfortable giving this site your credit card?"

It's things like that which are so often overlooked, and they matter so much!

Thanks for sharing this article.
 
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