Austria locks antivaxxers down [GO AUSTRIA!]

bartosimpsonio said:

Almost 100% of the deaths happen among unvaccinated.

It's amazing that we still have to be discussing goldtut.com/1.

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Vaccine does not make you immortal like cnn and bbc may imply.

I think you haven't done any research nor read any book on the subject.

What's the point of bombarding us with some superficial bbc info?

It will not convince anybody.

t0mmy said:

Again - I don’t think the virus is fake or any kind of conspiracy. However, how it’s now being used and manipulated to fit countless agendas (profit being one) is plain as day to see.

No hunger is a natural human reaction to not consuming food, I wouldn’t advise eating bigmacs to satisfy that natural reaction though as they’re poison, but then again.. you’ll put anything in your system by the sounds of it.

I’m out, your views, beliefs and how you think this should be dealt with frighten me to be honest more than any covid virus. Hopefully this is not a glimpse of things to come, divide and conquer.. the oldest play in the book.

To the others here questioning the status quo - keep doing so, every year we seem to be losing more and more rights to one scary media lead monster or another.

Before I leave.. don’t you forget to book in for your booster Bart, 3rd times the charm and all that.

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To be honest, I understand Bart as I know many people like that.

I worked with PR a lot in my job so I see the influence it has on the population.

Newspapers are a tool to influence people, mostly used in politics but also applied for health and in the last year to push the vaccine.

All these "If my mother took a third shot she will still be alive", "99% of people with severe illness are not vaccinated" and all these is pure influence and mass communication, it's nothing new.

When it comes to the vaccine, it's obvious that they do propaganda for it.

What is absolutely scary to be honest, as I don't care about Bart's opinion in the end but it's the... "science by press release" that we are seeing in the last year which is disgusting.

Newspapers are now cited as sources for reliable scientific information instead of medical magazines or epidemiologists research and this "science by press release" is making everyone crazy because it's a propaganda which is based on fear...

In addition, "scientifical news" is making people believe all the pro vaccine propaganda without questioning anything.

Press release is a marketing tool, we should never forget that.

I think the main problem is that people are all the time on a computer or phone so it makes critical thinking die completely and infobesity permanent...

As marketers, we are supposed to understand the BS around communication and PR.... newspapers have always done that.

This is experimental vaccine, thats a fact.

But they want 100% of people to be vaccinated.
Than how will they know if it was effective or not?
If there is no control group of people, they can say
whatever they want, and that is their goal.

My common sense tells me that 50% of people should
take vaccine and 50% not. So after few years we would
know the outcome of experiment for sure.

Willyfish said:

To be honest, I understand Bart as I know many people like that.

I worked with PR a lot in my job so I see the influence it has on the population.

Newspapers are a tool to influence people, mostly used in politics but also applied for health and in the last year to push the vaccine.

All these "If my mother took a third shot she will still be alive", "99% of people with severe illness are not vaccinated" and all these is pure influence and mass communication, it's nothing new.

When it comes to the vaccine, it's obvious that they do propaganda for it.

What is absolutely scary to be honest, as I don't care about Bart's opinion in the end but it's the... "science by press release" that we are seeing in the last year which is disgusting.

Newspapers are now cited as sources for reliable scientific information instead of medical magazines or epidemiologists research and this "science by press release" is making everyone crazy because it's a propaganda which is based on fear...

In addition, "scientifical news" is making people believe all the pro vaccine propaganda without questioning anything.

Press release is a marketing tool, we should never forget that.

I think the main problem is that people are all the time on a computer or phone so it makes critical thinking die completely and infobesity permanent...

As marketers, we are supposed to understand the BS around communication and PR.... newspapers have always done that.

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You see, this shit has power. Everyone looking for higher trust and credibility should buy some news in these outlets. PR syndication will be enough in many cases. Then you slap it on your website and voila.

hakann said:

This is experimental vaccine, thats a fact.

But they want 100% of people to be vaccinated.
Than how will they know if it was effective or not?
If there is no control group of people, they can say
whatever they want, and that is their goal.

My common sense tells me that 50% of people should
take vaccine and 50% not. So after few years we would
know the outcome of experiment for sure.

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Ohhh my god!!! This is human experiment!! How could you say that?!!! The vaccine is extremely safe!! The only issue mentioned by bbc is myocarditis but the risk is worth it for the herd immunity! Let 6 billion people take viagra mixed with xanax and fentanyl on top, so we shall see how many won't be able to handle that.

How do you make sure you don't die from a vaccine? You don't. No sensivity test. No allergy test. You get it injected, get fever and question your life 2 next weeks. Now that is therapeutic!

I said that because at least you can do an allergy test for xanax and viagra. All these substances are from Pfizer. Did I mention 3 guys I know wrecked their cars driving on xanax? And 2 more friends of friends died from viagra?

homeriscool said:

I don't see "news outlets" condemning McDonald's for serving fat people burgers and fries.

Think about it......

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Eating at McDonalds is a choice. Getting sick from a virus is not.

Think about it.....

reaaski said:

The vaccine is extremely safe!!

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It amazes me how naïeve people are. This garbage is not extremely safe! The more jabs you take, the bigger the risk you have of having extreme side effects. It's Russian roulette!

Has someone seen the rise of psychiatry? Is someone into xanax and ssri prescription sold by Pfizer stats? Bet they have gone up after all this fear! I went to a doctor 3 times and each time they were asking me questions about the virus and it all felt I get something prescribed only because they think people have hard time handling all that fear from media, so they need something to calm them down during what they call "hard time".

proxygo said:

the news media in America and all the Social media platforms shut down trump
you think they cant shut down topic discussions on death vax rates come on.
see - im not saying the vax doesnt save lives. it does
i only stated being vaxed doesnt stop you carrying or transmitting covid - it doesnt

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Lol..Trump was vaccinated. The majority of the politicians that spread misinformation about the virus are vaccinated. They know their base. Also, Trump got booted from Twitter for repeatedly breaking their TOS.

Vaccination actually does lower transmission rates and the amount of time you are sick - https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.31.2100640

proxygo said:

and theres a lot of people out there who died from the vax causing heart attacks,
heart failure , myocarditis . but thats the thing with pro vaxers, they believe its perfect
and hurts no1.

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Do you have an actual source for this? And pro vaxers don't think it's perfect. Again, prevention. You can still die in a car crash, even if you are wearing a seat belt and have airbags.

jstover77 said:

Lol..Trump was vaccinated. The majority of the politicians that spread misinformation about the virus are vaccinated. They know their base. Also, Trump got booted from Twitter for repeatedly breaking their TOS.

Vaccination actually does lower transmission rates and the amount of time you are sick - https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.31.2100640




Do you have an actual source for this? And pro vaxers don't think it's perfect. Again, prevention. You can still die in a car crash, even if you are wearing a seat belt and have airbags.

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If 70 million die from the virus and 70 million die from the vaccine it's 140 million. That's clearly more than 70 million from just the virus!

Would you rather die from a vaccine or a virus? If you have no symptoms and take a vaccine, the joke's on you!

Billy Batts said:

It amazes me how naïeve people are. This garbage is not extremely safe! The more jabs you take, the bigger the risk you have of having extreme side effects. It's Russian roulette!

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Again, do you have a source? 8 billion doses administered worldwide, that's with a B. If this nonsense was correct, the hospitals would be filled with people who are vaxxed, which is not the case. They are filled with unvaccinated people. Critical thinking, please use it.

A lot of people pulling shit out of their asses in this thread. Starting to look like r/conspiracy over at Reddit.

reaaski said:

If 70 million die from the virus and 70 million die from the vaccine it's 140 million. That's clearly more than 70 million from just the virus!

Would you rather die from a vaccine or a virus? If you have no symptoms and take a vaccine, the joke's on you!

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This makes no sense. Estimates are around <6,000 people have died from the vaccine (most likely less) and over 5 million have died from COVID, which by the way also lines up with total number of excess deaths (for those who want to spout nonsense about how those numbers are inflated).

jstover77 said:

Again, do you have a source? 8 billion doses administered worldwide, that's with a B. If this nonsense was correct, the hospitals would be filled with people who are vaxxed, which is not the case. They are filled with unvaccinated people. Critical thinking, please use it.

A lot of people pulling shit out of their asses in this thread. Starting to look like r/conspiracy over at Reddit.

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Side effects are so severe people don't make it to the hospital. They just die in their sleep. The fact many skip.

They write "died from covid" even if an individual is vaccinated. So the vaccine was not the fault

reaaski said:

Vaccine does not make you immortal like cnn and bbc may imply.

I think you haven't done any research nor read any book on the subject.

What's the point of bombarding us with some superficial bbc info?

It will not convince anybody.

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No one said it will make you immortal. Breakthrough cases do happen, but you are far less likely to die if vaccinated:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/1036023973/covid-19-unvaccinated-deaths-11-times-more-likely

reaaski said:

Side effects are so severe people don't make it to the hospital. They just die in their sleep. The fact many skip.

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Lol...and you know this how? You heard it on the Internet?

reaaski said:

They write "died from covid" even if an individual is vaccinated. So the vaccine was not the fault

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Simply not true. You are very misinformed.

Source - my best friend is a hospital administrator.

jstover77 said:

No one said it will make you immortal. Breakthrough cases do happen, but you are far less likely to die if vaccinated:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/1036023973/covid-19-unvaccinated-deaths-11-times-more-likely

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For 6 next months. Then you need to fo it again. At one point your body won't be able to handle these vaccines.

jstover77 said:

Lol...and you know this how? You heard it on the Internet?




Simply not true. You are very misinformed.

Source - my best friend is a hospital administrator.

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Simply reading media other than mainstream.

If someone is working at a
hospital, maybe they are just repeating whatever someone else paid them to repeat.

They are brain washing kids that vaccine will give them "superpowers" deceptive advertising to the max from Pfizer.

All good!

Next decade you will see those kids doing Pfizer xanax and viagra. Topped with zoloft. And the viagra is necessary in the mix because your penis shrinks on zoloft.

reaaski said:

Vaccine does not make you immortal like cnn and bbc may imply.

I think you haven't done any research nor read any book on the subject.

What's the point of bombarding us with some superficial bbc info?

It will not convince anybody.

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Seat belts don't make you immortal either. Should we ban helmets and seat belts?

hakann said:

This is experimental vaccine, thats a fact.

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Wrong. The vaccines are not experimental.

Billy Batts said:

It amazes me how naïeve people are. This garbage is not extremely safe! The more jabs you take, the bigger the risk you have of having extreme side effects. It's Russian roulette!

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That is absolutely false.

reaaski said:

If 70 million die from the virus and 70 million die from the vaccine it's 140 million. That's clearly more than 70 million from just the virus!

Would you rather die from a vaccine or a virus? If you have no symptoms and take a vaccine, the joke's on you!

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Your premise is absolute nonsense. If 70 million died from the vaccine, it wouldn't have been approved for use.

lickidysplit said:

Pshh You can't be serious? What an uneducated piece of shit lock him up she's a Jesus Christ unbelievable!!

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You created this account just to debate vaccines? Go back to your main acct, there's no need for this.

reaaski said:

Side effects are so severe people don't make it to the hospital. They just die in their sleep. The fact many skip.

They write "died from covid" even if an individual is vaccinated. So the vaccine was not the fault

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That's all false.

reaaski said:

For 6 next months. Then you need to fo it again. At one point your body won't be able to handle these vaccines.


Simply reading media other than mainstream.

If someone is working at a
hospital, maybe they are just repeating whatever someone else paid them to repeat.

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Yes. All virus vaccines are like that. What's the problem?

moonshine7000 said:

They are brain washing kids that vaccine will give them "superpowers" deceptive advertising to the max from Pfizer.

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YEAH THEY'RE ALSO "BRAIN WASHING" KIDS TO EAT FUCKING CHOCOLATE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

It's called marketing.

reaaski said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1455154785846538241

All good!

Next decade you will see those kids doing Pfizer xanax and viagra. Topped with zoloft. And the viagra is necessary in the mix because your penis shrinks on zoloft.

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Looks like you have a problem with companies making money off medical products. I don't.

bartosimpsonio said:

Seat belts don't make you immortal either. Should we ban helmets and seat belts?



Wrong. The vaccines are not experimental.



That is absolutely false.



Your premise is absolute nonsense. If 70 million died from the vaccine, it wouldn't have been approved for use.



You created this account just to debate vaccines? Go back to your main acct, there's no need for this.



That's all false.



Yes. All virus vaccines are like that. What's the problem?



YEAH THEY'RE ALSO "BRAIN WASHING" KIDS TO EAT FUCKING CHOCOLATE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

It's called marketing.



Looks like you have a problem with companies making money off medical products. I don't.

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Have you ever witnessed a person on Zoloft? That's like cocaine OD 24/7.

You can't really know how much disease a vaccine will cause. You can't know it especially with mRNA technology. That's why I said 70 million. It can be spread over time, the complications.

I can understand people who took the vaccines or "believed" in them. They probably thought everything will get back to normal.

Now what? Things won't get back to normal. Vaccines failed. Why? If it would be successful, they would get rid of those draconian "security measures" - especially in countries that vaccinated the majority of its population.

Its not about the virus. It has never been. Why can I say that? Because right from the very beginning, the numbers, etc. were false.

I was in China in early 2020 when this started. Do you guys know how they diagnosed the people with Covid? By symptoms only. People went to doctor with fever = covid. Coughing? Covid. Diarrhea? Covid. No joke, they really did this.

And then, of course, there are western countries who all jumped on this hype train. Funny enough that at the same time Chinas daily cases went to almost 0 and they already opened up their country. LOL. Just one question: If the virus is soooo dangerous, why don't they just write "died from covid" on the death certificate from people who really died from the symptoms of the virus? But from the very beginning they counted EVERYONE who got tested positive as a "covid death". Even people who already got late stage cancer and got infected with covid without showing symptoms. Even 95 years old people who got tested positive and didnt show symptoms.

Its a rigged game. Biggest fraud in history.

And these politicians or whoever has an agenda...they better watch out. History shwos that things can turn ugly and bloody very easily. At the moment they are on the very edge.