Astral Travel

PinguSpy · May 13, 2012

Ask your friend to write down some random number.

At night you astral > goto you friend house > read the number and memories it.

Wake up in the morning. Tell your friend about the number you saw.

I think this probably will be the ultimate proof.

Chris22 · May 13, 2012

PinguSpy said:
Ask your friend to write down some random number.

At night you astral > goto you friend house > read the number and memories it.

Wake up in the morning. Tell your friend about the number you saw.

I think this probably will be the ultimate proof.

/thread.

and you think I sound ridiculous?

If what you're saying is true then governments would be using lucid dreamers to spy on foreign governments and collect intel by doing that. (Pro tip: it doesn't happen).

iamrbm · May 13, 2012

Search google or youtube for pineal gland and the effects fluoride has on it.

angelas111 · May 13, 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

Plenty of governments have done remote viewing.

PinguSpy · May 13, 2012

Chris22 said:
/thread.

and you think I sound ridiculous?

If what you're saying is true then governments would be using lucid dreamers to spy on foreign governments and collect intel by doing that. (Pro tip: it doesn't happen).

Maybe because gov also skeptic like u.
They just don't believe it, even try it first.

Chris22 · May 13, 2012

PinguSpy said:
Maybe because gov also skeptic like u.
They just don't believe it, even try it first.

I believe the phenomena you experience, no doubt about that. But saying the explanation for it saying that it is spiritual is bullshit, and you have no foundation to make those claims on apart from crackpot theories with no proof. Then you're trying to convince people on here that that's really how it is?

angelas111 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

Plenty of governments have done remote viewing.

" and none of the newer experiments had positive results when under properly controlled conditions."

angelas111 · May 13, 2012

Chris22 said:
I believe the phenomena you experience, no doubt about that. But saying the explanation for it saying that it is spiritual is bullshit, and you have no foundation to make those claims on apart from crackpot theories with no proof. Then you're trying to convince people on here that that's really how it is?

" and none of the newer experiments had positive results when under properly controlled conditions."

according to this, yes. however without going into detail, i have a reliable source that has told me otherwise..................i probably shouldn't even mention it.

Chris22 · May 13, 2012

angelas111 said:
according to this, yes. however without going into detail, i have a reliable source that has told me otherwise..................i probably shouldn't even mention it.

That's right. I should take your word for it, and despite rational thought, I should believe this crap because one guy on a forum has a "reliable source", but can't give details.

Seems legit.

ShadeDream · May 13, 2012

Chris22 said:
" and none of the newer experiments had positive results when under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_control."

Even if the Government experiments had any positive results, announcing this publicly would be the last thing they would do. It would most likely be kept as top secret information. Just saying.

Chris22 · May 13, 2012

ShadeDream said:
Even if the Government experiments had any positive results, announcing this publicly would be the last thing they would do. It would most likely be kept as top secret information. Just saying.

Universities such as Stanford who also tried researching this field would have kept it secret too? I'm not convinced.

silentthunder · May 13, 2012

ShadeDream said:
Even if the Government experiments had any positive results, announcing this publicly would be the last thing they would do. It would most likely be kept as top secret information. Just saying.

Bingo! Governments are the ultimate when it comes to being practical. They believe Nothing and use Everything that works and records of Remote Viewing (government word for clairvoyance and astral travel) exist since world war II.

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/welln...5/Remote-viewing-known--since--biblical-times

Reverence of Psychic Powers by The Vatican:

Largest and most important important statue in the Vatican. This pine cone statue is a symbol of the
pineal gland which makes clairvoyance and other intuitive powers possible. Not trying to get into conspiracy shit
but traditionally, in all cultures all over the globe, knowledge of the things in this thread were treasured by
the elite and attacked by the church and science to keep control of us little guys.

The pineal gland is shaped like a tiny pine cone, hence its name. The symbol of the pineal gland is the pine cone.

It is so revered by the Vatican that a special Vatican court was built called the â€˜Court of the Pine Cone' where the world's largest pineal gland symbol is on display! The symbol is also found on the staff of the Pope and the Egyptian god Osiris.

Next to the Vatican Museums is a large courtyard called the Courtyard of the Pine because of the enormous bronze pine cone situated in it.

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Chris22 · May 13, 2012

Yawn, I can't be bothered trying to debunk conspiracy theories. Believe what you like people, I was just trying to shed light on this from a realistic perspective. Have a nice day.

silentthunder · May 13, 2012

Chris22 said:
Yawn, I can't be bothered trying to debunk conspiracy theories. Believe what you like people, I was just trying to shed light on this from a realistic perspective. Have a nice day.

Finally get some proof not easy to refuse and you're "bored". Okay Chris Rock. It's all good.

MrBlue · May 14, 2012

silentthunder said:
Finally get some proof not easy to refuse and you're "bored". Okay Chris Rock. It's all good.

LOL Exactly.

I meditate regularly and have had the opportunity to take Ayahuasca on several occasions. The combination of which has changed my life and view of reality....for the better! As I progress I am finding harder and harder to rationalise my experiences and reduce them to nothing more than hallucinatory, chemical reactions. There is something bigger at play.

That being said, without any first hand experience, I can see how one could easily dismiss it all.

angelas111 · May 14, 2012

Chris22 said:
That's right. I should take your word for it, and despite rational thought, I should believe this crap because one guy on a forum has a "reliable source", but can't give details.

Seems legit.

i never asked you to believe anything brother. just tellin you what i believe. everyone is entitled.

Roparadise · May 14, 2012

If astral projection really worked,then why would the government spend over $30 billion a year on the NSA?

Hogare · May 14, 2012

silentthunder said:
Bingo! Governments are the ultimate when it comes to being practical. They believe Nothing and use Everything that works and records of Remote Viewing (government word for clairvoyance and astral travel) exist since world war II.

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/welln...5/Remote-viewing-known--since--biblical-times

Reverence of Psychic Powers by The Vatican:

Largest and most important important statue in the Vatican. This pine cone statue is a symbol of the
pineal gland which makes clairvoyance and other intuitive powers possible. Not trying to get into conspiracy shit
but traditionally, in all cultures all over the globe, knowledge of the things in this thread were treasured by
the elite and attacked by the church and science to keep control of us little guys.

The pineal gland is shaped like a tiny pine cone, hence its name. The symbol of the pineal gland is the pine cone.

It is so revered by the Vatican that a special Vatican court was built called the â€˜Court of the Pine Cone' where the world's largest pineal gland symbol is on display! The symbol is also found on the staff of the Pope and the Egyptian god Osiris.

Next to the Vatican Museums is a large courtyard called the Courtyard of the Pine because of the enormous bronze pine cone situated in it.

Someone has been reading a lot of Dan Brown,huh?

tymillz · May 14, 2012

When I was young I learned that if I feel strongly about something and someone else feels strongly about the contrary, there is really no reason to argue because at the end of the day both parties will still have the same opinion but with added stress due to the argument.

Also, the op created this thread with the question...

ShadeDream said:
I was wondering if anyone would be able to recommend any books on astral travel?

not...

ShadeDream said:
Do you think astral travel is real, true, believable? And if not please attempt to sway my and others opinions on the matter!

silentthunder · May 14, 2012

I needed to hear that tyms. Thanks for the reminder.

cburton81 · May 14, 2012

Trust me it works.

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