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The Key is buying natural links and how long someone stays on your website, how many pages they visit, how fast your website loads, is it coded or a page builder with bloat. The bloat will become a bigger issue as user experience is a key ranking factor but page speed is not an actual ranking factor but bounce rate is. You can do email outreach for free rather than buy links and if low comp niche on page seo is all you need. With high comp niche both on page plus links are needed. A new company jumped me and Orkin with spamy links and PBN.
The Dissavow Ben said I should do for spam links- I think it’s part of the T in eat Trustworthiness. I will ask Ben in 12h
The Dissavow Ben said I should do for spam links- I think it’s part of the T in eat Trustworthiness. I will ask Ben in 12h
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Took me 4 months competitive niche plus great content with buying links for page 1 local serp and #2 for a 10 mile radius google maps. Well built website with Elementor switching to ACF now cost around 15k. That’s with me doing off-site SEO and Phillipino In house free lance team. If USA in house team mortgage house lol. It takes money to make money. Pest control my niche ultra competitive and now I am starting a agency next week. Do not waste money with ads nobody trust ads. The companies I out rank pay agencies probably 20k a month for years now but that includes ads and agencies generally don’t care about your company or about link building. I just spent 4K switching to ACF that’s on top of the original 15k I already spent. ACF should be done next week and I just dropped 4K on links not yet indexed. I will update BHW on those additions to my house... I mean website lol. Going forward we are using Haro and email outreach. Haro has gone well and nothing yet from emails. Everything I am doing now based on Ben consultation 10 days ago. I believe we will dial in the email outreach for free guest posts. Only buy quality links there’s 2 people I use from here and they are the most expensive the others I am dissavowing. If you think good links are expensive buy spam links.
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kindly please the enter key on your keyboard so that you create paragraphs. much easier to read. lots of good stuff you are sharing and also thank you for taking the time of doing this. cheers
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I know the algorithms and how the system works now. I had a long day and I can and will start tackling old and new questions and 2 days from now I’ll answer all of them
I had a ton of pest control services tomorrow and the next day I do apologize but the information I know is powerful
google AI just compares information to find a common theme. Do a keyword you want to rank for than write what all pages have in common
Make longer and more inforramative. If medium high Comp add a few links google can’t tell if they are bought or paid links than wait and your page will naturally get top spot page 1
Include schema to gain PR faster and a quick responsive website will help a ton.
I had a ton of pest control services tomorrow and the next day I do apologize but the information I know is powerful
google AI just compares information to find a common theme. Do a keyword you want to rank for than write what all pages have in common
Make longer and more inforramative. If medium high Comp add a few links google can’t tell if they are bought or paid links than wait and your page will naturally get top spot page 1
Include schema to gain PR faster and a quick responsive website will help a ton.
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I know a ton of secrets to crack google algorithm now but most of it can be learned just by watching what works
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All content you create is for the user
Keep people on your page
Do not sell educate
Keep people on your page
Do not sell educate
fb3003
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I have come to the same conclusion as well. educating user is key.
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1. what kind of site look more authority for google? old site with stable low traffic? or new site with high traffic?
2. When google crawl data and update their database, does rangking move dynamically or it change after some period of time.
3. When comparing content between site, how google crawler decide that a content is quality?
2. When google crawl data and update their database, does rangking move dynamically or it change after some period of time.
3. When comparing content between site, how google crawler decide that a content is quality?
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Hey everyone my platinum member consultation was extremely educational!
google AI is not that advanced. Google the keyword you want to read page 1 results and look for what they all have in common. This is what googleAI believes is the best answer.
writing should focus on the similarities and than add to it and make content a little bit better, increasing word count can help greatly.
schema markup and meta tags helps googles AI understand and helps you get choosen for rich snippets- A huge ranking jump if your page is picked for a rich snippet you jump to top of page 1 even if you were on page 2 before getting the rich snippet. CTR is around 50% compared to the traditional 30% for a typical page 1 spot 1 search results.
brand mentions is a huge ranking factor with each algorithm change backlinks lose power but do not be fooled Backlinks are the biggest ranking factor by a lot.
google AI is not good at detecting if links are natural or spam but humans can. The google penalties come from humans working for google not the AI it’s very dumb.
A huge ranking factor is how well your website was made ideally you want everything coded. Expensive I know I’m paying to have mine perfected switching from the bloated Elementor to ACF with perfect code googles page ranking boost will happen overnight.
for core vitals update in may well it already happened awhile ago but to check how well your core vitals are use google insights and fix everything they recommend it’s googles property and similar to his page rank was google insights will tell you how to improve your seo.
My goal is to get A’s on everything and 80% for mobile speed my homepage content far too long and if I shorten it than I’ll drop in ranking so it’s a balancing act. I’ll trim the excess content off my homepage and largest image to increase page speed. While still keeping homepage top quality.
I know lots of ways to break the algorithm now for instance if you claim on your website to have a PhD or a well known person on a topic that makes you a trusted authority figure for the topic your writing on.
Your also far more likely to be quoted on another website which is a big ranking factor. Similar to brand mentions.
Social media does not help much with seo but if your mentioned a lot that increases your branding.
Advertising is negative SEO to yourself you become less trusted and if your paying google for rent they don’t want to lose a tenant by your website ranking at the top they lose a paying client
I know Amazon does paid advertising for themselves and they rank 1 but amazon is a Titan it’s not a huge drop but you do lose trust.
One reason googles search engine is the best is that domain age is a tiny ranking factor no sandbox like on yahoo or bing. Other search engines love old domains so if you have a new website your screwed on every format besides google.
Googles the best because there algorithm is common sense stuff. The others lost to google because they used complex algorithms that produce irrelevant results. I visited yahoo and bing just to see and my website that’s 4 months old is google page 1 for all the major search queries for pest control but on the other search engines I gave up looking for my company after scrolling through the first 5 pages. My content and user experience is better than old websites that’s what matters not domain age and that’s why google is by far the best search engine.
it was recommended I create YouTube videos and link to them but a max of 1 per page.
linking out to authority websites increases your websites seo a good rule is 3 OBL per page.
this is why top ranking pages and companies get more powerful. Link to trusted relevant sources that are not competition. I will choose organic pest control page on Wikipedia and other companies in my city when it makes sense.
on gmb citations only move the needle, if hyper local the main ones help your seo a tiny bit but hyper local will move the needle. Use whitespark to find hyper local citations.
You may have noticed the top ranking gmb results correlate with website rankings that’s because your website is a huge gmb ranking factor but your gmb does not influence your websites rank.
the first 30 google reviews help a lil bit and after 30 they decrease in importance. Keywords used in reviews effect rankings for that KW and your core website KW chosen also effect that long tail search.
what city a review comes from does not matter reviews only help client conversions or hurt them. How often your gmb gets clicked or called has not impact on ranking this surprised me, guess too many people learnedto game the system and most of the gmb hacks no longer work like local guides no benefits geo tagging no benefit. Posts do not impact rank but people read them and they help with conversions. That was a good bit of helpful stuff from our consultation there’s much more let me read the passed comments and questions now.
I will also address new questions
google AI is not that advanced. Google the keyword you want to read page 1 results and look for what they all have in common. This is what googleAI believes is the best answer.
writing should focus on the similarities and than add to it and make content a little bit better, increasing word count can help greatly.
schema markup and meta tags helps googles AI understand and helps you get choosen for rich snippets- A huge ranking jump if your page is picked for a rich snippet you jump to top of page 1 even if you were on page 2 before getting the rich snippet. CTR is around 50% compared to the traditional 30% for a typical page 1 spot 1 search results.
brand mentions is a huge ranking factor with each algorithm change backlinks lose power but do not be fooled Backlinks are the biggest ranking factor by a lot.
google AI is not good at detecting if links are natural or spam but humans can. The google penalties come from humans working for google not the AI it’s very dumb.
A huge ranking factor is how well your website was made ideally you want everything coded. Expensive I know I’m paying to have mine perfected switching from the bloated Elementor to ACF with perfect code googles page ranking boost will happen overnight.
for core vitals update in may well it already happened awhile ago but to check how well your core vitals are use google insights and fix everything they recommend it’s googles property and similar to his page rank was google insights will tell you how to improve your seo.
My goal is to get A’s on everything and 80% for mobile speed my homepage content far too long and if I shorten it than I’ll drop in ranking so it’s a balancing act. I’ll trim the excess content off my homepage and largest image to increase page speed. While still keeping homepage top quality.
I know lots of ways to break the algorithm now for instance if you claim on your website to have a PhD or a well known person on a topic that makes you a trusted authority figure for the topic your writing on.
Your also far more likely to be quoted on another website which is a big ranking factor. Similar to brand mentions.
Social media does not help much with seo but if your mentioned a lot that increases your branding.
Advertising is negative SEO to yourself you become less trusted and if your paying google for rent they don’t want to lose a tenant by your website ranking at the top they lose a paying client
I know Amazon does paid advertising for themselves and they rank 1 but amazon is a Titan it’s not a huge drop but you do lose trust.
One reason googles search engine is the best is that domain age is a tiny ranking factor no sandbox like on yahoo or bing. Other search engines love old domains so if you have a new website your screwed on every format besides google.
Googles the best because there algorithm is common sense stuff. The others lost to google because they used complex algorithms that produce irrelevant results. I visited yahoo and bing just to see and my website that’s 4 months old is google page 1 for all the major search queries for pest control but on the other search engines I gave up looking for my company after scrolling through the first 5 pages. My content and user experience is better than old websites that’s what matters not domain age and that’s why google is by far the best search engine.
it was recommended I create YouTube videos and link to them but a max of 1 per page.
linking out to authority websites increases your websites seo a good rule is 3 OBL per page.
this is why top ranking pages and companies get more powerful. Link to trusted relevant sources that are not competition. I will choose organic pest control page on Wikipedia and other companies in my city when it makes sense.
on gmb citations only move the needle, if hyper local the main ones help your seo a tiny bit but hyper local will move the needle. Use whitespark to find hyper local citations.
You may have noticed the top ranking gmb results correlate with website rankings that’s because your website is a huge gmb ranking factor but your gmb does not influence your websites rank.
the first 30 google reviews help a lil bit and after 30 they decrease in importance. Keywords used in reviews effect rankings for that KW and your core website KW chosen also effect that long tail search.
what city a review comes from does not matter reviews only help client conversions or hurt them. How often your gmb gets clicked or called has not impact on ranking this surprised me, guess too many people learnedto game the system and most of the gmb hacks no longer work like local guides no benefits geo tagging no benefit. Posts do not impact rank but people read them and they help with conversions. That was a good bit of helpful stuff from our consultation there’s much more let me read the passed comments and questions now.
I will also address new questions
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What do you mean by brand mentions? Something other than backlinks?
Are you saying if you buy Google ads, you start ranking worse? lol
I'm having a hard time believing turning off Elementor and adding some code snippets all around your pages would make you rank higher instantly.
Why would so many people use Elementor if it was that terrible for rankings?
Thanks for all the info and effot! (and for using whitespace between paragraphs this time :'D)
fb3003
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you pretty much validated everything that I have noticed over the last few months. specially this:
"Google the keyword you want to read page 1 results and look for what they all have in common. This is what googleAI believes is the best answer."
amazed on how much you shared. multiple thanks!!!! I hope good karma and long lasting #1 ranking comes your way : - )
one thing: I dont suggest linking to wikipedia. my single variable testing from few years ago, told me that this is bad for ranking. pick another trusted high authority site. not wikipedia.
cheers
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I heard linking to Wikipedia not helpful from other seo. Ben never said to link to Wikipedia he just said pick about 3 trusted websites per page.
Elementor is awful because of bloat. In the new core vital update loading speed is a huge ranking factor. We are Switched to ACF our mobile speed on google insights jumped from 29 to 85
You want to see a huge increase in organic ranking and in gmb get rid of Elementor and switch to Advanced custom Fields.
Or if you can afford it than get your entire website coded.
paying for advertising causes your website to lose trust that’s why.
google wants you to pay for ads it’s how they make all their money. . If you rank 1 organically you may stop paying for ads.
If you never pay for advertising your more trusted. My interpretation is google rather have non paying companies rank above companies paying for advertising.
This positively reinforces people to continue paying for advertising.
schema markup just tells google AI what your pages are about and is agood practices idea as ben put it not a direct ranking factor but it’s better to not confuse google AI since it’s not intelligent and relies on algorithms. Google AI not capable of learning cause it’s not advanced enough to learn.
Elementor is awful because of bloat. In the new core vital update loading speed is a huge ranking factor. We are Switched to ACF our mobile speed on google insights jumped from 29 to 85
You want to see a huge increase in organic ranking and in gmb get rid of Elementor and switch to Advanced custom Fields.
Or if you can afford it than get your entire website coded.
paying for advertising causes your website to lose trust that’s why.
google wants you to pay for ads it’s how they make all their money. . If you rank 1 organically you may stop paying for ads.
If you never pay for advertising your more trusted. My interpretation is google rather have non paying companies rank above companies paying for advertising.
This positively reinforces people to continue paying for advertising.
schema markup just tells google AI what your pages are about and is agood practices idea as ben put it not a direct ranking factor but it’s better to not confuse google AI since it’s not intelligent and relies on algorithms. Google AI not capable of learning cause it’s not advanced enough to learn.
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Yes, there’s no sandbox in google website rankings only gmb. The other search engines suck because aged domains are a ranking factor. Start a new domain with quality coded backend and buy links and you’ll rank fast. Gmb takes 3 months to start ranking and after 30 reviews the reviews do not mean much.
for indexing quality matters my website gets indexed daily ask google search console to index another way is to create fresh content.
If you buy a link and not indexed quickly the link usually will provide no value.
I have personally noticed a varied link profile more natural than a all relevant link profile so yes relevant links are good but more important is content across each blog section. Get authority links and create awesome content. The important thing here is to look natural in case of a manual review.
Google AI not smart but PBN they on the look out for. I have reported competition ranking by cloaking and spammy links and it works great for them and not for the person that reports it.
to prevent people doing negative seo google is unlikely to penalize a website for bought links.
I built a brand new website competive niche lots of my pages rank 1 spot 1 after website 3 months old why? Fresh content lots of paid links and responsive website. My gmb took a year and only one company with more spammy links than me is outranking my company.
from my experience relevant links not important and quality PBN links cheapest way to buy links. I do Haro with the best writer we get 3-4 great links a week not cheap and PBN works better. Just buy a high quality PBN and never twice from same seller.
My industry natural link building not realistic.
never pay for advertising unless you want to be always paying rent. Never pay seo agency waste of money hire from the Philippines that’s what my seo agency does and for 15-30$ hour I’ll put them up vs any usa writer making 150-250$ usd an hour just stay away from the 5-10$ hour writers with respect to the Philippines.
My in house team of writers cost me 8k usd a month not counting links I buy and my developer.
now if you think 20k usd a month for usa agency buys anything your wrong. I out rank companies doing that for 10 years in 3 months. I was initially only spending 2k usd a month first 3 months till seo alone got me to page 1 now being month 4 non wix website my company so busy with phone calls I make more than surgeons pre paying for the best possible in house team. I’ll report to you now the top editorial links and being on T.V as a source from their work will soon make my website or as I like to call it my house a very nice house.
it takes money to make money so create a great website optimization for speed buy backlinks and do Haro plus I am now doing Forbes council I can’t wait to see the progress we gain!
so domain age the tiniest of ranking factors according to ben instead ofworrying about saving money with a expireddomain build a quality domain for 10k dollars buy links and content another 10k dollars and you will be rich if you can perform the service your selling and our passionate.
otherwise go play the lottery.
every day is my Monday including Sunday that’s what it takes to succeed and after a few years than take time off.
My pest control seo agency is what I do for fun never trust a seo learn yourself and pay the right in house team. I won’t promote myself here but I could.
for indexing quality matters my website gets indexed daily ask google search console to index another way is to create fresh content.
If you buy a link and not indexed quickly the link usually will provide no value.
I have personally noticed a varied link profile more natural than a all relevant link profile so yes relevant links are good but more important is content across each blog section. Get authority links and create awesome content. The important thing here is to look natural in case of a manual review.
Google AI not smart but PBN they on the look out for. I have reported competition ranking by cloaking and spammy links and it works great for them and not for the person that reports it.
to prevent people doing negative seo google is unlikely to penalize a website for bought links.
I built a brand new website competive niche lots of my pages rank 1 spot 1 after website 3 months old why? Fresh content lots of paid links and responsive website. My gmb took a year and only one company with more spammy links than me is outranking my company.
from my experience relevant links not important and quality PBN links cheapest way to buy links. I do Haro with the best writer we get 3-4 great links a week not cheap and PBN works better. Just buy a high quality PBN and never twice from same seller.
My industry natural link building not realistic.
never pay for advertising unless you want to be always paying rent. Never pay seo agency waste of money hire from the Philippines that’s what my seo agency does and for 15-30$ hour I’ll put them up vs any usa writer making 150-250$ usd an hour just stay away from the 5-10$ hour writers with respect to the Philippines.
My in house team of writers cost me 8k usd a month not counting links I buy and my developer.
now if you think 20k usd a month for usa agency buys anything your wrong. I out rank companies doing that for 10 years in 3 months. I was initially only spending 2k usd a month first 3 months till seo alone got me to page 1 now being month 4 non wix website my company so busy with phone calls I make more than surgeons pre paying for the best possible in house team. I’ll report to you now the top editorial links and being on T.V as a source from their work will soon make my website or as I like to call it my house a very nice house.
it takes money to make money so create a great website optimization for speed buy backlinks and do Haro plus I am now doing Forbes council I can’t wait to see the progress we gain!
so domain age the tiniest of ranking factors according to ben instead ofworrying about saving money with a expireddomain build a quality domain for 10k dollars buy links and content another 10k dollars and you will be rich if you can perform the service your selling and our passionate.
otherwise go play the lottery.
every day is my Monday including Sunday that’s what it takes to succeed and after a few years than take time off.
My pest control seo agency is what I do for fun never trust a seo learn yourself and pay the right in house team. I won’t promote myself here but I could.
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Ben doesn't seem to understand OB links, Backlink architecture or authority sites. Where did Ben get this 3 figure from? There are no PAT answers to SEO; especially the more intense the competition.
Hmmmm, Ben doesn't seem to understand how to speed optimize websites?
I know TONs of Elementor built sites outranking non WP sites; some of the TOP Amazon affiliates sites are built with Elementor. Go do your homework! Search for the top Amazon Affiliates, and run those URLs through your favorite theme detector software, and send those results back to Ben.
Ben doesn't seem to know that speed became ranking factor back in 2010, and a MAJOR ranking factor in 2018?
Hmmmm... I guess Nutrogena didn't get a paid consultation from Ben? And neither did Walmart, Amazon, Miami MD, etc.? They ALL do paid ads and organic SEO and social media and videos and mentions; send this to Ben and have him to explain their success versus not losing trust from the g00ly guys.
OP, no offense, but Ben sounds like he cash jacked you < you might want to seek a refund.
For what it's worth to everyone else, NEVER take advice from ANY G00gly expert.
I'd bet $10k that you can find a great deal of AdSense Premium Publishers who lost tens of thousands of dollars and hundreds of thousand of dollars right after taking advice from the Google AdSense experts assigned to their accounts.