article backlink pyramids vs regular simple backlinks

the two reasons for article marketing via goarticles/EZarticles are people either directly trying to convert traffic from the article site to their site, or they are simply publishing lots and lots of articles on popular topics for the backlinks.

i'm doing the second one. just trying to rack up the backlinks, so i'm going to write about popular topics.

my next question is similar in relevance: when using ezine/goarticles and article marketing in general as your marketing scheme for your niche sites (its the only way i plan to market really) how much more effective is it to create article pyramid systems and use web 2.0 sites than to simply just have a certain amount of articles on ezine/go articles to ALL to backlink to your website?

to help clarify my question, let me try to simplify it;

consider these two examples of article marketing

a) publish 50 articles on ezine/goarticles, all backlinking to NICHE SITE X

b) write 50 articles, but put 10 on web 2.0 properties, have the other 40 all backlink to these different web 2.0 properties which then backlink to NICHE SITE X

c) write 50 articles, publish all on ezine, but have say 40 backlink to 10 articles that are ALSO on EZINE/goarticles and then have the high backlinked articles on ezine all backlink to NICHE SITE X.

examples B&C contrast from A in the sense that they are using a pyramid scheme and not just direct links from all.

so basically are scenarios B/C more effective than A? is the difference big?

if you have any backlink structures for articles you can reccomend as well that would be appreciated!

thanks!

awh shucks.

i didn't think my question is that complex, could someone guide me into possibly re wording it better?

LOL!!

Understood! (By The Way - i would think this thread would fair better in the SEO section of the forum, rather than Writing Articles section)

OK there are 2 school's of thought on this. If you are merely making articles and web 2.0 properties for backlinks, then many would say link back to your money site with anchor text, in order to give your money site more "authority".

However, the more important your backlinks appear (in the search engines eyes), the more important your money site will appear as well.

So yes you should also build backlinks to your backlinks.

e.g. a) Your money site has a 100 articles pointing at it and all these articles are ranked on the 10th page of google!

b) Or Your money site has 100 articles pointing at it and 50 are ranked on the 10th page of google and another 50 are on page 1 or 2.

Scenario b should create more authority for your money site in Google's eyes, because the backlinks are assumed to be of a higher quality (because they are ranked higher).

I think you should take advantage of the fact that you can link more than once in every article and web 2.0 property.

e.g. Write 50 articles - Make 10 web 2.0 properties all linking to your money site. The remaining 40 articles, should have 1 link pointing to a specific Web 2.0 property and another link pointing to your money site as well!

Social Bookmark everything and your money site has lots of incoming backlinks and those backlinks will be deemed more important, because they are being linked to as well!

Just my 2 cents

Cheers
James

http://bit.ly/bdaE3d I think this article might help out with your problems

I use ezine and go articles as well as assorted web 2.0 properties out there and I generally promote my ezine articles and the web 2.0 properties as well as promote my sites with them.

You can see a diagram and read an explanation by reading the PDF in my sig.

oh how i long for basstracker to answer my PMs..

BassTrackerBoats said:

I use ezine and go articles as well as assorted web 2.0 properties out there and I generally promote my ezine articles and the web 2.0 properties as well as promote my sites with them.

You can see a diagram and read an explanation by reading the PDF in my sig.

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is the changing of IPs necessary? and basstracker when it comes to submitting multiple the same articles to Ezine and Goarticles is it really effective?

because i was promoting a website with content that ezine didn't like (so it didn't allow me to promote the website) and i had to resort to JUST GOarticles. so what I did was take the duplicates already published on Ezine and re post them on GOarticles with just a different title but same content and the backlink promoting the site that i wasn't allowed to promote on ezine.

i've been pinging the articles on GOarticles and bookmarking them and still they aren't showing up as backlinks to my site. I'm assuming it's because google is fully aware its duplicated content?

goarticles is fine for a weekend but for a lifetime ezine is the way to go. Unique content is very important... consider that if you have the same stuff just plastered all over the net... the quality of it is diminished.

Changing the IPs has been kicked around by others with me and although I tend to lean that it is not necessary, I sill do it... I'd rather be safe than have my work get clouded because of a minor step like an ip change.

criticalintent said:

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a) publish 50 articles on ezine/goarticles, all backlinking to NICHE SITE X

b) write 50 articles, but put 10 on web 2.0 properties, have the other 40 all backlink to these different web 2.0 properties which then backlink to NICHE SITE X

c) write 50 articles, publish all on ezine, but have say 40 backlink to 10 articles that are ALSO on EZINE/goarticles and then have the high backlinked articles on ezine all backlink to NICHE SITE X.

examples B&C contrast from A in the sense that they are using a pyramid scheme and not just direct links from all.

so basically are scenarios B/C more effective than A? is the difference big?
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I think you're best bet is to do a little bit of all of those scenarios.

The idea of all the work is to create the same type of linking structure on the web that would be happening naturally if the backlinks and articles were actually being created by real people; visitors and webmasters that just liked your site. To do that you need to put your mind into the "mindframe of what would those real people do." It's kind of like acting, except instead of reciting a script of dialog for all the various characters, you are following a script of how the various characters are promoting a website. For a real website, there are many different reasons that people will promote someone elses website, to have a natural looking backlink strategy you need to simulate the actions all those different people.

If you do it right, your website will appear to actually be a popular website and google will rank it accordingly. It's hard for them to slap you for doing that, because its hard to distinguish a good simulation from true popularity. In fact if you do a good enough job of it, and have the right website, it'll be hard for real visitors to distinguish a difference as well. Done properly, with the right site, the simulation can actually lead to true popularity.

A lot of people forget that a high position in the SERP isn't actually your goal. The goal is more targeted traffic. You're position in the SERP is just part of your strategy to reach your true goal.

Popularity is the goal!!!

basstracker + greywolf = delicious combo of information.

i see exactly what you mean now, and that seriously broadened my perspective on link building.

both of you have been thanked!!